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AIBU for thinking my friend should take more responsibility (inc financially) for plans he cancelled?

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cinders92 · 05/07/2024 19:55

A long and nuanced one, but if you’ve got some time to spare here goes…

My friend and I have had a trip booked for a concert since the start of the year. It’s a once-in-a lifetime thing for me, for a group that will likely soon stop touring (due to age/illness) and who are my absolute heroes. We have been saving for it ever since we bought the tickets, as we knew we need to travel and stay over (train and hotel).

We had both continuously referenced our plans multiple times since the time it was booked and said how excited we were. About 4 weeks back I messaged him and said we probably needed to get our hotel and train booked as we may run out of options otherwise. I also said that if the times worked well, we could possibly come back the same day via train to save money, but said it would depend on when the event finished (which we didn’t yet know as times hadn’t been published). He agreed.

About 3 weeks before, after finding out the times definitely wouldn’t work for a same-day return, I confirmed with him that we would definitely need to stay over and that we should book our train and hotel very soon before they get booked up. Again, he agreed, and said he would look at hotels and come back to me with suggestions.

He didn’t come back and so about 2 weeks out from the event I sent a link to one of the most reasonably priced hotels in the area to ask him what he thought and whether he was happy for me to book that one.

It’s at this point he lets me know that he can no longer go as he can’t afford it. He tells me he had “completely forgotten” and once he did remember he thought we would be returning the same day because I had mentioned it that one time. I told him I thought I had made it clear that that was a big “if”, as it was dependent on event times, but offered to cover the cost of the hotel for now, as I assumed he had the rest saved seeing as the issue was (supposedly) me mentioning the same-day return.

He then said that, actually, he might be able to lend money off someone else and he would come back to me.

A day later (at this point we’re at under two weeks out from the event) he lets me know he definitely won’t be able to go and apologises for letting me down, but says it’s simply not feasible for him financially and that he “can’t help that”.

At this point I tell him I’m confused as I had already offered to cover the hotel and asked “Surely you have the rest saved”… (£100-£150) …”as we have had this booked since the start of the year and you haven’t mentioned any issues up until this past week, which you said was just due to hotel?”

He tells me he didn’t have any money put to one side for it at all as his financial situation had changed (moved to a more expensive home) very shortly after he had booked the ticket and he didn’t realise he wouldn’t be able to go after reviewing his finances for the past few months just now (after 3+ months in said-new home.)

While I totally understand affordability I’m confused and incredibly annoyed as to why he would leave it this late to tell me. I am also all the more annoyed as I know he has been going for nice meals with his new partner and also bought them quite an extravagant gift (£400+) very recently - not for any occasion, mind, just as a random present.

This close to the event I am now struggling to find anyone who wants to buy our tickets, which we each spent about £100 on, as people know they’ll incur travel and accommodation costs. Meanwhile, my friend hasn’t taken any sort of pro-active action to help me recover any money by selling them on - it has been me sorting this.

They have suggested that once I do secure someone who will buy them (if I do, it will be for much cheaper), that I should let them know so that we can split it.

AIBU for being SO angry about:

a) the lack of notice RE finances, despite them seemingly having had money for other things these past few months
b) the lack of effort/responsibility to help me recoup, and
c) their desire to want to split the money? If it were me who had cancelled the plans, I would give my friend their full ticket amount and take anything left for myself…. but maybe I’m naive or BU… Mostly, I’m a bit sad and disappointed.

AIBU and how would you handle this?

OP posts:
wreckingthejoint · 05/07/2024 21:05

Your friend has behaved badly towards you and could have been a lot more considerate. He's left it too late to back out without consequences e.g. he loses the value of his ticket. Certainly don't be splitting any money clawed back, he's a CF asking that.

Book an affordable hotel/AirBnB/B&B, go on your own and it will develop your self confidence. Don't trust him to keep to arrangements ever again! If you told us the concert venue etc you'd get more specific help.

Humtum · 05/07/2024 21:02

Booking.com have Klarna pay if this helps pick accommodation that is more appropriate for your needs. In principal you shouldn't be out of pocket because of your pal but I've used this option to spread the cost of accommodation (no interest) when I've wanted to avoid dorms.

Proteinpud · 05/07/2024 21:00

OP you've had lots of good advice already, just to add if it's a bucket list type of gig, it's worth seeing if there's a Facebook or similar fan page for whoever it is - I've travelled all around the country on my own for gigs, and for many I've linked up with other fans, who have been welcoming of anyone who shares the obsession!

Agree if you're going to London, Airbnb or dorms are always far cheaper than hotels, the Airbnb rooms I've taken have typically been single mums earning some extra money so I've never felt worried about it as a lone female. Check if you're on a train line that has 'superfares' in case there's any left on your travel dates!

Your friend is a dick and definitely shouldn't be expecting the money back, please tell him that's not happening given he's messed you around!

(Oh and for future info - many airbnbs can be booked with low deposits, and hotels can often be booked with free cancellation up until the day before, so you can reserve accommodation in advance and still save up to pay)

Doggymummar · 05/07/2024 20:58

Or try Host a Sister and stay for free

Doggymummar · 05/07/2024 20:57

If it's something that's booking out the whole city and leaving only £300 a night hotels in London (doubtful) get a train to Brighton and stay in Travelodge or Haywards Heath has one at the station. £50 generally

Thunderpants88 · 05/07/2024 20:57

Feel your pain when reading this. So thoughtless and annoying

if it were me I would gift his ticket to someone who could travel and go and have a blast

Humtum · 05/07/2024 20:57

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:47

That last part is what my Mum said actually. And yeah, I think I would have tried to solve more if I had been the one cancelling, personally, but maybe I’m wrong to think that way.

Putting myself in there shoes I would feel really bad about not being conscientious and considerate. Maybe they are a bury the head in the sand type of person who dont like to let people down, but regardless - you've been inconvenienced. I hope you get to go and enjoy the concert still!

ButterCrackers · 05/07/2024 20:55

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:46

First of all, don’t worry about flaky friend’s wasted ticket. That’s not your responsibility to sell.

Secondly, are there no cheaper options for staying overnight? Any hostels or bnbs?

If you do decide to go, make it clear to flaky friend and mutual friend that you are going and they must not sell your ticket.

If you decide not to go, prioritise selling your own ticket. Only sell the second ticket if the buyer wants both.

Good advice.
I hope that you can go on your own. There might be somewhere you could stay cheaply and safely.

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:53

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:51

It is late on in evening - I think maybe 11 I would be out of it. I don’t know much of London as I’ve only been the once so I’m happy to take advice.

Is the venue in Central London? North, West etc?

Sickoffamilydrama · 05/07/2024 20:52

Try Z hotels they are often cheaper, they have no windows but nice clean and safe. I've stayed in the Holborn one a few times for work.

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/07/2024 20:52

Mojodojocasahous · 05/07/2024 20:52

Share who it is and where - some Mumsnetters might be going?

And we can find cheap digs if not!

Mojodojocasahous · 05/07/2024 20:52

Share who it is and where - some Mumsnetters might be going?

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:51

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:49

What time does the gig end? We can check tube timings.

You may be able to get a tube to a hotel in a cheaper (but safe) area.

It is late on in evening - I think maybe 11 I would be out of it. I don’t know much of London as I’ve only been the once so I’m happy to take advice.

OP posts:
MrsTerryPratchett · 05/07/2024 20:50

Muthaofcats · 05/07/2024 20:48

I wouldn’t do a dorm; I think actually I would feel a bit more nervous staying somewhere like that as a single female. Just stay at a cheap hotel or Airbnb. Look at places easy to get to via tube that may be a zone further out and therefore cheaper etc.

he can sell his own ticket.

Edited

I've never had issues in single sex dorms in backpackers'. Especially as she won't have luggage. Just sleep with your bag and bring a toothbrush and some knickers.

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:50

Muthaofcats · 05/07/2024 20:48

I wouldn’t do a dorm; I think actually I would feel a bit more nervous staying somewhere like that as a single female. Just stay at a cheap hotel or Airbnb. Look at places easy to get to via tube that may be a zone further out and therefore cheaper etc.

he can sell his own ticket.

Edited

Even in a female dorm?

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:49

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:45

It’s London, but someone here has kindly suggested that Air BNB might be a good option to try. I have been looking at the booking.com website right now.

What time does the gig end? We can check tube timings.

You may be able to get a tube to a hotel in a cheaper (but safe) area.

ZeroFucksGivenToday · 05/07/2024 20:48

London has loads of options. And feels really safe at concert kick out (or generally any time to be fair). I've taken my then younger daughter all over with me there and never had any issues.

Muthaofcats · 05/07/2024 20:48

I wouldn’t do a dorm; I think actually I would feel a bit more nervous staying somewhere like that as a single female. Just stay at a cheap hotel or Airbnb. Look at places easy to get to via tube that may be a zone further out and therefore cheaper etc.

he can sell his own ticket.

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:47

Humtum · 05/07/2024 20:45

I would be really frustrated and disappointed in them. I don't really expect other people, especially my friends to do all the logistics. So I would expect they bring to the table some of the options i.e. which hotel / travel etc.

Can you still go on your own and enjoy / bring a different friend that might be able to afford?

Life definitely can get in the way with a big house move etc, but I'd be wary of committing to an event with this person in the future. They sound flaky and you seem to have provided them ample choices.

That last part is what my Mum said actually. And yeah, I think I would have tried to solve more if I had been the one cancelling, personally, but maybe I’m wrong to think that way.

OP posts:
LIZS · 05/07/2024 20:46

There are Travelodges and Premier Inns etc in London too

BifurBofurBombur · 05/07/2024 20:46

First of all, don’t worry about flaky friend’s wasted ticket. That’s not your responsibility to sell.

Secondly, are there no cheaper options for staying overnight? Any hostels or bnbs?

If you do decide to go, make it clear to flaky friend and mutual friend that you are going and they must not sell your ticket.

If you decide not to go, prioritise selling your own ticket. Only sell the second ticket if the buyer wants both.

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:46

MrsTerryPratchett · 05/07/2024 20:44

Go on HostelWorld, pick a dorm, get a coach. Big gigs are great because everyone kicks out at the same time so it isn't deserted.

I had not heard of that one - thank you!

OP posts:
YellowAsteroid · 05/07/2024 20:46

but I’m a young female and not sure I would feel completely safe at a large event, in a strange city, staying on my own. I don’t think it would be the wisest sadly.

You'll be fine! It's just another place - how do you get around on your own normally?

Humtum · 05/07/2024 20:45

I would be really frustrated and disappointed in them. I don't really expect other people, especially my friends to do all the logistics. So I would expect they bring to the table some of the options i.e. which hotel / travel etc.

Can you still go on your own and enjoy / bring a different friend that might be able to afford?

Life definitely can get in the way with a big house move etc, but I'd be wary of committing to an event with this person in the future. They sound flaky and you seem to have provided them ample choices.

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