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AIBU for thinking my friend should take more responsibility (inc financially) for plans he cancelled?

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cinders92 · 05/07/2024 19:55

A long and nuanced one, but if you’ve got some time to spare here goes…

My friend and I have had a trip booked for a concert since the start of the year. It’s a once-in-a lifetime thing for me, for a group that will likely soon stop touring (due to age/illness) and who are my absolute heroes. We have been saving for it ever since we bought the tickets, as we knew we need to travel and stay over (train and hotel).

We had both continuously referenced our plans multiple times since the time it was booked and said how excited we were. About 4 weeks back I messaged him and said we probably needed to get our hotel and train booked as we may run out of options otherwise. I also said that if the times worked well, we could possibly come back the same day via train to save money, but said it would depend on when the event finished (which we didn’t yet know as times hadn’t been published). He agreed.

About 3 weeks before, after finding out the times definitely wouldn’t work for a same-day return, I confirmed with him that we would definitely need to stay over and that we should book our train and hotel very soon before they get booked up. Again, he agreed, and said he would look at hotels and come back to me with suggestions.

He didn’t come back and so about 2 weeks out from the event I sent a link to one of the most reasonably priced hotels in the area to ask him what he thought and whether he was happy for me to book that one.

It’s at this point he lets me know that he can no longer go as he can’t afford it. He tells me he had “completely forgotten” and once he did remember he thought we would be returning the same day because I had mentioned it that one time. I told him I thought I had made it clear that that was a big “if”, as it was dependent on event times, but offered to cover the cost of the hotel for now, as I assumed he had the rest saved seeing as the issue was (supposedly) me mentioning the same-day return.

He then said that, actually, he might be able to lend money off someone else and he would come back to me.

A day later (at this point we’re at under two weeks out from the event) he lets me know he definitely won’t be able to go and apologises for letting me down, but says it’s simply not feasible for him financially and that he “can’t help that”.

At this point I tell him I’m confused as I had already offered to cover the hotel and asked “Surely you have the rest saved”… (£100-£150) …”as we have had this booked since the start of the year and you haven’t mentioned any issues up until this past week, which you said was just due to hotel?”

He tells me he didn’t have any money put to one side for it at all as his financial situation had changed (moved to a more expensive home) very shortly after he had booked the ticket and he didn’t realise he wouldn’t be able to go after reviewing his finances for the past few months just now (after 3+ months in said-new home.)

While I totally understand affordability I’m confused and incredibly annoyed as to why he would leave it this late to tell me. I am also all the more annoyed as I know he has been going for nice meals with his new partner and also bought them quite an extravagant gift (£400+) very recently - not for any occasion, mind, just as a random present.

This close to the event I am now struggling to find anyone who wants to buy our tickets, which we each spent about £100 on, as people know they’ll incur travel and accommodation costs. Meanwhile, my friend hasn’t taken any sort of pro-active action to help me recover any money by selling them on - it has been me sorting this.

They have suggested that once I do secure someone who will buy them (if I do, it will be for much cheaper), that I should let them know so that we can split it.

AIBU for being SO angry about:

a) the lack of notice RE finances, despite them seemingly having had money for other things these past few months
b) the lack of effort/responsibility to help me recoup, and
c) their desire to want to split the money? If it were me who had cancelled the plans, I would give my friend their full ticket amount and take anything left for myself…. but maybe I’m naive or BU… Mostly, I’m a bit sad and disappointed.

AIBU and how would you handle this?

OP posts:
HighOnMaiden · 05/07/2024 23:52

Are you on any of the fan groups OP? I’ve made some great friends over the years meeting other fans for pre gig drinks etc.

We tend to book rooms in the same place and stay together now and there are always one or two on their own.

Geiyotue · 05/07/2024 23:31

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:39

I can’t sell their ticket and take the money. They have said they want their share back (or what we can get for them now anyway) and it’s been me trying to sort all of that.

And how is he going to make you do that? You just don't give it to him! What's he going to do?

pizzaHeart · 05/07/2024 23:20

I think you are not being unreasonable to be angry that he left it too close to the event but you are unreasonable to expect something from selling his ticket to go towards your hotel costs.
At this situation I would have a look if I could go on my own or (if it’s absolutely not possible) if I could sell MY ticket. It might be easier to sell 2 tickets together by the way so it’s worth asking.
Morally if you are not going on your ticket - it’s on you. I wouldn’t expect something for you from selling his tickets to cover your hotel costs. If the hotel was booked already for 2 of you - it would be different.

I would never commit to anything with this person again. I wouldn’t cross him out as a friend just won’t share commitments.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 05/07/2024 23:20

I’d give your friend his ticket as he has paid for it and let him be responsible for selling it on. Definitely go to the concert on your own-if it’s Springsteen, we went at Cardiff and the vibe was really friendly. Go by yourself and kick that bucket!

SapphireSeptember · 05/07/2024 23:15

I've been going to gigs on my own for years. It's easy enough. One was right after the Manchester arena bombing and people kept asking me if I was scared of going. I was not, I said that the safest time to be in London is right after a terrorist attack! And then the Grenfell tower disaster happened on the day I went into London and the Tube was closed and I got lost. 🤦🏻‍♀️ Managed to get to my hotel eventually.

hurlyburlygirly · 05/07/2024 23:11

I'm guessing Springsteen. If so, go. It's brilliant and very friendly. And every tour is rumoured to be the last so I'd go.

Gymnopedie · 05/07/2024 23:07

Your OP and later posts suggest that he HAS paid for his ticket. So it's his ticket. Therefore you give him his ticket and tell him that if he wants any money for it it's his responsibility to sell it. It's not your problem to solve, and certainly not by giving him his money 'back'.

Gcsunnyside23 · 05/07/2024 22:57

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:35

They booked it as we were unable to at the time, but they were around. They’re great and were super nice, but not really related to the tale much. The friend who was supposed to be coming has left it all down to me to try and sell the tickets at the umpteenth hour and has said that whatever I can get for them, we can split - I’m asking if IBU for being annoyed at that fact.

I'd tell them you're still going and if they want to sell their ticket they can. But no way would I be helping them after they ruined my plans

LazyGewl · 05/07/2024 22:55

Tacocatgoatcheesepizza · 05/07/2024 20:01

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the reason he isn’t going is not because of money but because of the new partner.

Yeah, that’s what I thought.

Proteinpud · 05/07/2024 22:42

OP you've had lots of good advice already, just to add if it's a bucket list type of gig, it's worth seeing if there's a Facebook or similar fan page for whoever it is - I've travelled all around the country on my own for gigs, and for many I've linked up with other fans, who have been welcoming of anyone who shares the obsession!

Agree if you're going to London, Airbnb or dorms are always far cheaper than hotels, the Airbnb rooms I've taken have typically been single mums earning some extra money so I've never felt worried about it as a lone female. Check if you're on a train line that has 'superfares' in case there's any left on your travel dates!

Your friend is a dick and definitely shouldn't be expecting the money back, please tell him that's not happening given he's messed you around!

(Oh and for future info - many airbnbs can be booked with low deposits, and hotels can often be booked with free cancellation up until the day before, so you can reserve accommodation in advance and still save up to pay)

NameChanged9 · 05/07/2024 22:40

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:51

It is late on in evening - I think maybe 11 I would be out of it. I don’t know much of London as I’ve only been the once so I’m happy to take advice.

@cinders92 I really hope you manage to sort something out! Sounds like your ‘friend’ has been very unreasonable - especially at cancelling at such short notice. I hope you manage to go, as I think if you miss it, it could be one of those opportunities in years to come you look back on and regret not having.

RenoDakota · 05/07/2024 22:40

You are not unreasonable to feel annoyed and hurt, OP. But I echo others here in saying go on your own. I go to a lot of gigs but at the grand old age of 61 I am going to my first one on my own in August. It is a band I love and would walk over hot coals to see. The only other person I know who would want to see them is on holiday then.

I had similar worries about safety (it is in Manchester and I wouldn't have minded getting the last train home but did not want to do the walk on my own, very late, at my end). So I booked a cheap Travelodge in central Manchester. I am soo looking forward to it and what was a worry is now an exciting adventure!

You can do it, and would probably regret it if you didn't. Hope it all works out well for you, whatever you decide to do.
And do consider Travelodge. I know London would be more expensive than Manchester but I got a double room for £45 (with cancellation option included).

Good luck!

sandyhappypeople · 05/07/2024 22:39

I'd be telling him to recoup his own costs.

You either go (you should definitely go!), don't go or sell your ticket but do that entirely separately from his ticket, I'm really not sure why you would have offered to try and sell his ticket on his behalf after he's been such a git!

Make it work OP, you'll regret it is you don't.

CableCar · 05/07/2024 22:37

YABU - if it’s a "once-in-a lifetime thing" to see your "heroes" than why on earth are you considering not going? You haven't lost anything by your friend not going - except companionship! The gig tickets are already paid for, the money is gone. It's your mates responsibility to sell his ticket. Not your responsibility to sell it if he can't go.
I've been to see my favorite band alone twice and was totally fine... Once in Birmingham and once in Southampton. Just go by yourself and have a brilliant time!!

loupiots · 05/07/2024 22:37

Definitely try to go! You're not unreasonable for being annoyed at your flakey friend, but don't let it ruin your bucket list experience.

Lots of Londoners on mumsnet who can help you out with accommodation ideas - you've already had some good ones. Female only dorms are an option if you're a little nervous.

Get a coach; cheaper than the train, just need to leave earlier. All the stadiums have excellent transport links, and the tube will run late enough for you get back to your accommodation.

You sound very sensible, you'll be fine. I went to my first gig aged 14 at Wembley - I pretended I was at a sleepover, my mum never found out!

DoAClassicCamel · 05/07/2024 22:36

Have you not got one friend who can go?
Surely there’s someone.

SeriaMau · 05/07/2024 22:27

I went to see Springsteen in Sunderland on my own. Had to stay overnight in Hartlepool. It was absolutely fine. One of my best experiences. Everyone was very friendly.

tuvamoodyson · 05/07/2024 22:25

TheUnknownsMum · 05/07/2024 21:15

What’s the suggestion here, that someone at the grand old age of 32 wouldn’t be at risk compared to a younger girl?

I assumed it meant more mature, not a 16 year old!

sleepercellspy · 05/07/2024 22:16

I would tell him that he can try and sell the ticket if he's that desperate for the cash but it would be nice if he'd take the hit on the ticket money so you can offer it to someone.

He's being really selfish, I'd have immediately given you the ticket.

gardenisblooming · 05/07/2024 22:16

Which venue is it in London? I go to a lot of gigs and might be able to help out re travel/accommodation ideas, and you might even find that one of us on here is also going and we can meet up?!

Newbiebutoldie · 05/07/2024 22:13

What gig is it and where? I have been to most of the bigger venues in London so can help with travel & poss accommodation

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 05/07/2024 22:10

Happy to give London tips too if you say where it will be :)

Normallynumb · 05/07/2024 22:09

If you say which venue I'm sure posters can recommend places to stay
If I lived in London, you'd have been welcome to stay with me!

Peaceandquietandacuppa · 05/07/2024 22:09

Give him a deadline to find someone to cover his ticket. If he doesn’t find someone by x date, offer it to a friend for free.

Bollocks should you be the one taking on the admin of getting him his money back?!

I don’t think this is a very nice friend tbh.

Nanaof1 · 05/07/2024 22:08

cinders92 · 05/07/2024 20:39

I can’t sell their ticket and take the money. They have said they want their share back (or what we can get for them now anyway) and it’s been me trying to sort all of that.

So, tell him you couldn't sell it, find a friend to go with you who will split the cost of the hotel with you. Or go alone, leave the concert in time to catch the last train. You also have had many, many wonderful bits of advice about hostels, dorm rent, etc. Please listen to them. Going alone, you will be perfectly safe, though I can see it would be more fun with a friend. Look into alternate overnight accommodations to see if something is cheaper.
Don't even try to sell flakey friend's ticket, just ignore their "asks". They can go take a long walk off a short pier for flaking out on you.

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