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1 in 4 voters still Tory

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User135644 · 05/07/2024 15:06

After the last 14 years how have they still got so many voters for this election (which was lost long ago)? And that's despite loads of Tories going Reform as a protest. Labour only just over 1 in 3.

They'll be back again for sure. Really is a Tory country.

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TheSerenePinkOrca · 05/07/2024 18:47

You vote for your local candidate. Our local labour candidate lives in London and didn't bother campaigning.

The Tory and Lib Dem candidates however have done a huge amount in the local area so it's no surprise that between them they had most the votes.

I've lived all over the UK and always voted for the local candidate who was best for the area.

obsessedwithfreshbread · 05/07/2024 18:44

After 25 years of labour government here in wales we really know what living with a horrendous NHS, education system and massive wastage of public funds we can see the future for the rest of the uk, they can race to the bottom with us!

CranfordScones · 05/07/2024 18:41

There is a legitimate strand of political thinking to the right of the liberals. Why is that hard to grasp?

2dogsandabudgie · 05/07/2024 18:36

MidnightPatrol · 05/07/2024 15:17

Yes - although.

I think there are a lot of people with a paid-off mortgage for a nice house, no childcare costs, a good pension etc who are quite truthfully really very comfortable.

They probably think things are quite good.

vs someone on an identical or higher income feeling like they’re struggling because of their insanely high mortgage / childcare / commuting costs.

The average retired household has a higher disposable income than the average working household.

Of course many retired households are well off. We are in that situation, no mortgage, adult children left home and are comfortable and don't have to worry about money.

But what you forget is that when we were younger we struggled with our mortgage, household bills etc. We had no savings, had cheap cars and holidays. There was no help with childcare fees either.

In years to come many of the working population now will be in the same situation as us as their children grow up and their circumstances change.

stackhead · 05/07/2024 18:33

Isitsixoclockalready · 05/07/2024 17:32

Thing is that if it was all about the personal qualities of the MP then we'd have 600+ independent MPs.

And wouldn't that be refreshing! Though logistically a little difficult.

But real life aside, I agree, but it would've been nice if the labour/lib dem parties could've rustled up a local candidate.

Ultimately I've got to rely on my own MP to represent the interests of my area which are very different to the interests of urban areas.

HowIrresponsible · 05/07/2024 18:31

Payattentioninclass · 05/07/2024 15:08

Presumably they haven't had to use the NHS or go to a GP in the past decade so are unaware of how the Tories have wrecked healthcare... .

I have used it all and never had a problem being seen thanks.

MJon · 05/07/2024 18:30

lovelysunshine22 · 05/07/2024 18:27

The problem with the NHS is over use, an ageing population and more importantly chronic wastage of money!

The aging population is the problem. Keeping people alive at all costs which takes up loads of resources. Medicines have stopped the natural life cycle.

HowIrresponsible · 05/07/2024 18:29

User135644 · 05/07/2024 15:06

After the last 14 years how have they still got so many voters for this election (which was lost long ago)? And that's despite loads of Tories going Reform as a protest. Labour only just over 1 in 3.

They'll be back again for sure. Really is a Tory country.

Of course they'll be back. That's how democracy works ffs. Or do you think we should be a one party state ?

Labour have only been in power barely a third of the last century: they're historically a weak opposition. There's no reasons to suspect vast improvement and they'll fuck up in a decade and have another tory landslide.

lovelysunshine22 · 05/07/2024 18:27

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 18:20

@TeenLifeMum I was responding to the PP who said:

We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

As if brexit played no part. The evidence of that particular self-inflicted shit show is all around us, but in case you missed it there's a nice summary here news.sky.com/story/amp/brexit-new-report-suggests-uk-311bn-worse-off-by-2035-due-to-leaving-eu-13046256

And yes the tories were responsible for it. And yes, they only secured that (51%) majority by lying to the electorate. Rotten to the core.

The problem with the NHS is over use, an ageing population and more importantly chronic wastage of money!

mummyh2016 · 05/07/2024 18:25

Some areas didn't have a Reform candidate. In my area we had one who pulled out at the last minute to deflect to the Tories, too late for Reform to put anyone else in. This meant those that would've voted Reform stuck with the Tories so our tosser of an MP kept his seat.

TeenLifeMum · 05/07/2024 18:23

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 18:20

@TeenLifeMum I was responding to the PP who said:

We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

As if brexit played no part. The evidence of that particular self-inflicted shit show is all around us, but in case you missed it there's a nice summary here news.sky.com/story/amp/brexit-new-report-suggests-uk-311bn-worse-off-by-2035-due-to-leaving-eu-13046256

And yes the tories were responsible for it. And yes, they only secured that (51%) majority by lying to the electorate. Rotten to the core.

They asked the country if we wanted Brexit and the majority said yes. I blame them for a lot but not that.

nhs wait times are due to covid plus poor funding and management. We did some great stuff when the budget was open but that was never going to last (nhs senior manager here).

i think most politicians are self serving and fairly rotten - it’s not specific to one party.

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 18:20

@TeenLifeMum I was responding to the PP who said:

We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

As if brexit played no part. The evidence of that particular self-inflicted shit show is all around us, but in case you missed it there's a nice summary here news.sky.com/story/amp/brexit-new-report-suggests-uk-311bn-worse-off-by-2035-due-to-leaving-eu-13046256

And yes the tories were responsible for it. And yes, they only secured that (51%) majority by lying to the electorate. Rotten to the core.

TeenLifeMum · 05/07/2024 18:05

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 17:50

Not sure if you've heard of brexit?

Which the majority of people in this country voted for and most still support. I viewed against Brexit but I’m mature enough to accept that there were opposing views and the majority got their wish. We will never know what being in Europe would have meant to compare, so it’s a daft argument but often social media implies it’s the stupid few who wanted Brexit when this wasn’t the case.

TeenLifeMum · 05/07/2024 18:01

A lot of people remember the Labour government and that wasn’t all roses either. (I didn’t vote Tory)

sarahc336 · 05/07/2024 18:01

It's the ones that have no idea that people are having to use food banks to feed their kids snd have never set foot inside an nhs a&e 🙄

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Londonrach1 · 05/07/2024 17:59

Or maybe everyone old enough to have lived through both Tory and labour...both are not great! Sadly between the two I know which is better as I'm.old but we need a change so pleased with the result. Please op set up a party that looks after the people and care about the UK...the whole political system is awful!

Ryeman · 05/07/2024 17:56

I voted Tory and have all my life. If the election had been a year ago I probably would have wavered but I feel like things were finally settling down and getting back on track under Sunak and that a change of government would just upset the apple cart all over again.

traytablestowed · 05/07/2024 17:50

Moier · 05/07/2024 17:22

Everyone who voted Labour.. Will be regetting it in a year's time. ..when the country is in a worse state than it is now.
We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

Not sure if you've heard of brexit?

Isitsixoclockalready · 05/07/2024 17:32

stackhead · 05/07/2024 15:38

I voted Tory, not for the party politics but because someone from Hounslow (labour candidate) or Southampton (Lib Dem candidate) doesn't have the first clue what's important for someone living in rural Lincolnshire. And the conservative MP both lives in the constituency and has done some good things in her tenure.

I voted for my local MP, not for the Prime Minister (y'know like the system is set up).

That said I'm very much a swing voter, but none of the parties were convincing enough for me to vote in a lad from London to represent a farming community that he probably had never heard of until he got a nomination.

Thing is that if it was all about the personal qualities of the MP then we'd have 600+ independent MPs.

socialdilemmawhattodo · 05/07/2024 17:30

I voted Conservative. I am a single issue voter - women's rights, support for single sex spaces, and knowing what a woman is. Of the candidates standing in the GE I had met last year the incumbent Tory MP and the independent candidate. The Tory was able to hold a 15 min conversation with me on women's rights & concerns. The independent was only focused on 1 issue - large planning development. This year I didn't meet any of the other candidates (lab, libdem, soc dem, green, reform) - all bused in from outside the area.Wouldn't vote lab, lib dem, green and not reform. I like many women had no sensible choice. My MP is considered a safe pair of hands, was not involved with the sleeze, seems a decent constituency MP so I voted for the man not the party. My conscience is totally clear.

BMW6 · 05/07/2024 17:27

I've been voting for nearly 50 years.

The UK is naturally central conservative. If the Conservative Party moves too far right AND Labour occupy the centre Labour will win a GE.

If Labour moves left and Tories shift back to centre Tories will win.

It's always going to be the party that occupies nearest the centre that will win. If they are too close then you get a hung Parliament.

It's who we are. We don't like extremes. We like moderation.

Perhaps it's one reason why mass immigration is objected and even feared - too much could change the nature of the voting population. We could have a rise of extremist politics from outside our own culture. Look what happened to Jess Phillips earlier.

Moier · 05/07/2024 17:22

Everyone who voted Labour.. Will be regetting it in a year's time. ..when the country is in a worse state than it is now.
We had COVID.. that changed the NHS.. NOT the government.

BuffaloCauliflower · 05/07/2024 17:18

@WiseBiscuit and if they run the country well and make good decisions? You’d still want them out? I can’t think of a single good decision the Tories have made in years. Ah no I can think of one, the Lifetime ISA has been quite handy for me

WiseBiscuit · 05/07/2024 17:07

Meraas · 05/07/2024 16:19

The last spell as opposition didn't do much for them.

It's a bit weird to hope Labour are a wet lettuce and don't deliver much? Seems really counter-productive to only want things from one party.

I want them out within 1 term! So the less they achieve or the more they fuck up the better the chances.