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Parking in disabled spaces when disabled person sitting in car

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Mokel · 05/07/2024 14:42

If the blue badge holder isn’t going to leave the car, the car shouldn’t be parked in a disabled bay.

The purpose behind disabled bays is for disabled people don’t have to walk far to entrances to shops, doctors etc. If not leaving the car, there’s no need to park up there.

If a non disabled person is going to leave the car leaving the disabled person in the car, they should be parking in a normal parking space.

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NineChickennuggets · 07/07/2024 08:04

We don't force all car users out of the car in regular spaces.

NineChickennuggets · 07/07/2024 08:03

The non disabled car user is irrelevant to blue badge rules. The BB user may not need them to be with them out of the car. No one is forced to have someone with them at all times when they don't want that.

TigerRag · 07/07/2024 07:56

But as a disabled person, it states you need to leave the car. Why would it be ok for their non disabled companion to stay in the car?

Its nothing to do with hierarchy of disability - you're preventing someone who needs the space from using it

There being no rules about the non disabled companion leaving the car doesn't mean they shouldn't

NineChickennuggets · 07/07/2024 07:52

"Source? Hardly fair to prevent another disabled person who needs the space more, from parking."

There is nothing in the BB rules about the non BB holder waiting in the car. The BB holder is out of the car and will be getting back in at that spot. There is also no hierarchy of need in the BB rules.

TigerRag · 07/07/2024 07:43

NineChickennuggets · 07/07/2024 07:34

"But you shouldn't be sitting in a disabled bay. It's very clear in the rules you get with the badge. You should park in a regular space then drive to meet him

You're part of the problem"

As long as he is getting into the car in that BB space, it is legal.

Source? Hardly fair to prevent another disabled person who needs the space more, from parking.

Blackcats7 · 07/07/2024 07:39

Another thread showing the worst of MN. Jealousy that disabled people have something you want and how very dare they get what you perceive as a perk. Dressed up as hair splitting over the rules. Faux concern that the lazy rule breaking disabled parkers might stop a more seriously disabled person parking.
Thinking there should be a hierarchy which you can judge by eye.
Have the honesty to say that you think less of disabled people, they should not get anything non disabled people get and most are exaggerating or faking it anyway.

NineChickennuggets · 07/07/2024 07:34

"But you shouldn't be sitting in a disabled bay. It's very clear in the rules you get with the badge. You should park in a regular space then drive to meet him

You're part of the problem"

As long as he is getting into the car in that BB space, it is legal.

Auburngal · 07/07/2024 07:33

Though 5 years old, a town did a check on BB and found 20 of them were used incorrectly. Such as named person on BB has died. https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/20-blue-badges-stripped-people-16748761

Probably been more recent checks in towns but this what I found when googling

20 blue badges withdrawn because of fraudulent use

One person was using a dead relative's blue badge

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/local-news/20-blue-badges-stripped-people-16748761

Auburngal · 07/07/2024 07:27

Friend’s former neighbours opposite. The man was disabled. Wife was not.

Every single time she saw their car parked in the various car parks across the town. It was always parked in a disabled bay and he was always sitting in the car. Whilst wife did the getting out the car and did the errands etc. Their car was a distinctive colour so easy to spot.

Friend’s job is shopping and other things for elderly and disabled people. Some of them are just about able to visit the shops etc. if they have a BB, she would parked in a disabled bay. 95% the time she can find a disabled bay. The few times she could not get a bay because people like her neighbours parked in them. With the disabled person in the car.

Earlier this year, the wife died unexpectedly and the husband had to go into a care home as he could not do much at all bar the driving

IamtheDevilsAvocado · 07/07/2024 06:08

Portakalkedi · 05/07/2024 15:18

I agree OP, and I think it's in the guidebook you get with the Blue Badge. I have one and know how hard it can be to find a space sometimes. If I can't get a disabled space then I am unable to get in or out of the car. However I'm more bothered by the idle gits who don't have a BB and just park there because it's nearer to whatever. That is taking entitlement and selfishness to new levels, able bodied people who can't be arsed to walk a few extra metres.

This

When I needed a BB (before lots of major ortho surgery) - it was impossible for me to access shops /appts WITHOUT a Blue badge space.

Used to infuriate me when people literally ran from empty cars where they'd shoved a BB up in.

I've had to go home and call surgeries etc to cancel imminent appts as I can't get close enough.

People who use spaces illegally are vile

tabulahrasa · 07/07/2024 05:56

Kedece2410 · 06/07/2024 22:18

But you shouldn't be sitting in a disabled bay. It's very clear in the rules you get with the badge. You should park in a regular space then drive to meet him

You're part of the problem

But her husband is the one with the blue badge, she’s using the space for him to get in the car - that is totally fine to do.

Opinionwontchangeluv · 07/07/2024 04:59

They might be waiting for someone who is disabled

DoAClassicCamel · 07/07/2024 03:15

fungipie · 06/07/2024 12:31

How sad and unfair. So if there is one space left, and I witness a younster speeding into the only available disability space, and you are left in your car unable to park, I should just leave you to it?

Sorry, but no. I am glad my parents educated me to care for others whenever I can. I need extra leg space due to one knee not able to bend well and very painful- but if someone older or clearly more in need than me, I will give up a priority space. Again, how my parents educated me.

Do you walk away and zip it when you see a child molested, an elderly person pushed around, a teenager bullied by others? And 'just mind your own business'?.

Edited

The examples in your last paragraph are hardly comparable with someone taking a parking spot.

Ozanj · 06/07/2024 22:26

It could be the driver who’s disabled though. When my uncle was terminally ill he got one because aunt didn’t drive and while he looked okay, often had dizzy spells.

LadyKenya · 06/07/2024 22:23

Kedece2410 · 06/07/2024 22:18

But you shouldn't be sitting in a disabled bay. It's very clear in the rules you get with the badge. You should park in a regular space then drive to meet him

You're part of the problem

Tbf the poster may not even be able to drive. Her Husband is not using his badge incorrectly, as he has got out of the car! He is the one with the BB.

Kedece2410 · 06/07/2024 22:18

gettingolderbutcooler · 06/07/2024 19:54

I sit and wait for my husband who's got the disabled badge. Disabled people are allowed out of the bloody car you know ffs.
Wind your neck in.

But you shouldn't be sitting in a disabled bay. It's very clear in the rules you get with the badge. You should park in a regular space then drive to meet him

You're part of the problem

gettingolderbutcooler · 06/07/2024 19:54

I sit and wait for my husband who's got the disabled badge. Disabled people are allowed out of the bloody car you know ffs.
Wind your neck in.

LadyKenya · 06/07/2024 19:25

use your badge to park if you’re just waiting, and don't plan to leave your car

It would have to be proven that you set off with that intention, I would have thought. And who is enforcing these rules anyway? Only once in all my years of being a BB holder has a traffic warden asked to see it, and they did not even check to see if the picture was my likeness. They just looked at the date.

TigerRag · 06/07/2024 19:20

WonderingAboutThings · 06/07/2024 19:08

Where does it say you have to get out of the car? The link you gave seemed to suggest it needs to be ONE of THREE options. That's different to your interpretation

Scroll down a bit:
If you break the rules
You can still get a parking fine when you're using your badge.
If you misuse your badge on purpose you could be fined up to £1000, for example if you:

  1. give it to someone else to use
  2. keep using your badge when you no longer need it
  3. use your badge to park if you’re just waiting, and don't plan to leave your car
Elleherd · 06/07/2024 19:17

@LiterallyOnFire Both are a complete pain in the rear.

@WonderingAboutThings From above link:

If you misuse your badge on purpose you could be fined up to £1000, for example if you:

  1. give it to someone else to use
  2. keep using your badge when you no longer need it
  3. use your badge to park if you’re just waiting, and don't plan to leave your car

If someone else is driving you, you must let them know the rules - if they don’t follow them the council can take your badge away.

Most people know exactly what the rules are, obey them or the spirit of them, if not everyone exactly to the letter. The rest of us generally get there can be reasons why someone isn't being religious about them, because actually most of us are very aware of others having needs too.

LadyKenya · 06/07/2024 19:16

Blue Badge spaces are not for the disabled person to sit in whilst an able-bodied person nips into a shop. If you do this you can be fined.

Highly unlikely to happen though.

WonderingAboutThings · 06/07/2024 19:08

DaniMontyRae · 05/07/2024 15:31

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/help-for-disabled-travellers1/blue-badge-scheme/using-your-blue-badge/

CAB advice is that a person can get fined for using the badge incorrectly if the badge owner is not getting out of the vehicle.

Where does it say you have to get out of the car? The link you gave seemed to suggest it needs to be ONE of THREE options. That's different to your interpretation

MarvellousMonsters · 06/07/2024 18:53

tabulahrasa · 05/07/2024 14:49

I have one, no, you’re not supposed to use it if you’re not getting out of the car.

Someone can use it to drop you off and pick you up though, which might look like someone isn’t getting out if they’re waiting.

Blue Badge spaces are not for the disabled person to sit in whilst an able-bodied person nips into a shop. If you do this you can be fined.

LiterallyOnFire · 06/07/2024 18:31

What a palaver.

I think I got my first BB the year after I left London. If this was happening it went over my head. I've never seen the locks, either, but then I wasn't looking for them. You live and learn.

Your local LA sound almost as much of a nightmare as the thieves @Elleherd

Elleherd · 06/07/2024 17:15

LiterallyOnFire · 06/07/2024 15:37

I'm really surprised to see BB locks are available. Theft of them isn't a problem here AFAIK.

Are the thefts happening in high crime area?

Blue badge theft in some parts of London has been a big problem for at least 18 years. It's not as bad as it used to be but still pretty bad. My council allowed one theft and after you had to show proof of ownership of a lockable badge device before you could have a replacement.

Several councils now demand registration for e-badges etc, to be used when parked outside your home, and you effectively aren't supposed to use the actual badge. You can but are threatened with it wont be replaced if stolen from where you live because you're considered colluding with the theft even with a lockable device. Leading to people having to give false information to police. 🙄
You're also expected to keep it 'not easily visible or available' in your home in case of burglary or theft by carers.
In 20 odd years I've lost three permanently, one temporally. First to a break drivers window and help yourself in a neighboring borough when I didn't know it was likely to get targeted, another to a broken window and bolt cutters, been mugged for another by an angry smack head, and the other was in my bag during a home invasion/ burglary, but was recovered being used and directly returned by police instead of to the council, because I'd written my post code in smart water on it.

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