To think that the election results don't add up?

If you think it isn't right that Labour get 64% of seats with 34% of the vote, what do you think of Labour having 100% of power when only 14% of the population voted for them.

Imagine 14 people wanting to go for a meal and trying to decide where to go. 4 of them are children so they get no say. 4 of the adults say they aren't bothered where they end up. The remaining 6 adults vote for their favourite restaurant. 2 vote for McDonald's, 1 votes for KFC, and the other 3 vote for different Chinese restaurants. So they go to McDonald's (and do so every week for the next 5 years). That's commensurate to what happened in the 2024 general election.

If you think it isn't right that Labour get 64% of seats with 34% of the vote, what do you think of Labour having 100% of power when only 14% of the population voted for them.

Imagine 14 people wanting to go for a meal and trying to decide where to go. 4 of them are children so they get no say. 4 of the adults say they aren't bothered where they end up. The remaining 6 adults vote for their favourite restaurant. 2 vote for McDonald's, 1 votes for KFC, and the other 3 vote for different Chinese restaurants. So they go to McDonald's (and do so every week for the next 5 years). That's commensurate to what happened in the 2024 general election.

I did not deliberately misspell his name, I just made a mistake. I was taught that it was i before e except after c so I just assumed that was the way it was.

I hope you are equally put out when people call President Donald Trump, 'Trump'.

Or do only people on the 'fashionable' side of politics deserve respect?

If you think it isn't right that Labour get 64% of seats with 34% of the vote, what do you think of Labour having 100% of power when only 14% of the population voted for them.

Imagine 14 people wanting to go for a meal and trying to decide where to go. 4 of them are children so they get no say. 4 of the adults say they aren't bothered where they end up. The remaining 6 adults vote for their favourite restaurant. 2 vote for McDonald's, 1 votes for KFC, and the other 3 vote for different Chinese restaurants. So they go to McDonald's (and do so every week for the next 5 years). That's commensurate to what happened in the 2024 general election.

If labour got 33% of the vote, and only 60% of people voted, then only 1 in 5 UK adults actively wanted to elect Starmer/Labour. And some of those people didn’t even actively want to elect labour - they just wanted the tories gone.

what a miserable situation

how many people have anything to do with their local MP? Quite a lot. You are very lucky if you’ve never needed yours and neverv know when you might in future - they can literally be life savers if they know their stuff. The thought of not having someone to represent you nationally would be dreadful. The really ones are shown a lot of appreciation by their constituents and will buck voting trends nationally. I will be fascinated to see if the likes of Farage and Ticw get stuck in in Clacton and Boston.

This isn’t a representative democracy, if you ask me.

It literally is, @rumnraisins. We democratically elect our representatives.

Is that you nige?

I mean clearly this is how it 'should' be, but how many people actually have anything to do with their local MP? I think most people voting in a general election are voting for the main party rather than their local MP. In fact, my wife has done polling duty and she couldn't believe the number of people who couldn't understand why Boris Johnson's name wasn't on the ballot paper.

That data only undermines your point. Sinn Fein only stand in a very small number of constituencies, in not-very-densely-populated areas. They're a local-issues party. Calculating their national fraction of the vote is both absurd and pointless. The people of the constituencies where SF won wish, as a majority, to be represented in their government by a SF representative, and a political system that overruled them because there aren't that many of them on a national scale would be one of tyranny.

Literally no political system, anywhere, works on the basis of looking at how the vote goes nationally and assigning the government proportionally, because that's both unworkable and undemocratic. Every political system works by an area electing, by majority, the person they wish to represent them, as is their right. The differences between PR and FPTP have absolutely nothing to do with how the vote looks proportionally at the national level.

Farage is a racist cunt so if he is 'fuming' then I am happy. He can kiss my arse

I mean clearly this is how it 'should' be, but how many people actually have anything to do with their local MP? I think most people voting in a general election are voting for the main party rather than their local MP. In fact, my wife has done polling duty and she couldn't believe the number of people who couldn't understand why Boris Johnson's name wasn't on the ballot paper.

Maybe they should provide fast drying 'dobbers'....

@IClaudine Was just about to say that. The determination of some posters to misspell his name is quite something.

How did LibDem get 70 odd seats and Reform 4 when Reform got 14% of the vote. I mean, I understand how it works... but it's hardly cause for LibDem's 'greatest result' ever is it? I bet Nigel is fuming. And rightly so.