Sunak’s concession speech wtf?

A bit of a contradiction there. They are a captive population, with no citizenship of anywhere, in a non-state - so how can the elect a 'government'`? Twenty years ago (when Hamas was not proscribed) the occupying power manipulate them into voting for Hamas to administer the prison camp as a bit of divide and rule against the PLO. There has been no election for a generation and the occupying power has controlled their borders and not allowed them any international status since.

Even if we have no international power we could at least stop selling weapons of genocide to Israel, and express a tiny bit of doubt about what they are doing.

It is all such a bunch of phoney baloney from bottom to top anyway.
Most of these MPs are career politicians with no real life experience. The ones that advocate for the redistribution of wealth blah blah blah are multi millionaires or will be when they quit office and write a book.
They are all, without fail, essentially conservative and they do not practise what they preach.
We’re heading really quickly towards a communist state; you won’t own anything in 20 years time because it will all be far too bloody expensive. Good luck if you continue to live in Britain!!!

It's the elephant in the room that many in this country would never vote for someone of Indian heritage.

I thought his speech was dignified and respectful to the new PM. It’s a shame it’s not Boris up there apologising to the nation

I dont say this often but I was proud of Swindon

Yes, I heard that on the radio and it does appear to be a massive interference in democracy.

That didn't occur to me at the time - despite the emphasis on Britishness in that speech - but if it was it was well-placed.

I appreciated the admirable absence of emotion or hand-wringing which made a welcome change from most of today's politicians.

I voted for an independent candidate. Had she not been standing I would, for the first time in my life, have spoiled my ballot paper. I genuinely feel I have no horse in this race: the two mainstream parties are currently both awful in their different ways and the radical change they promise at every general election never materializes.

The big ideas some have of Labour - that they'll ride in on their white horses and 'rescue' education and the NHS from certain death - can't be anything but naive. As one who works in one of those sectors most badly decimated by 14 years of Tory rule, I have to say I don't have much cause for optimism or feel better or worse about this result than I did yesterday. Fixing this mess is going to take a lot more than a change of government.

But, unlike most else of what he can be said to have achieved, Sunak's valedictory speech hit the right note.

I found it incredibly problematic to have a member of the global plutocracy (albeit by marriage) in government never mind as PM and I thought his election campaign was dire, but this speech struck the right note

He has highlighted the differences between how we can conduct ourselves in UK compared to other countries
Totally agree
Isn't it a stark contrast to see Mordaunt, Hunt, Shapps, Sunak and Starmer all talking about decent public service and calmness - we are going to need to live this, not just pay it lip service if we are going to work to halt the growth of the far right. I personally am glad to see it. One of the scariest things I have heard was on a political podcast about the Democrats being unable to replace Biden in part due to not having enough time for the media to pull them apart and for time to pass to make them palatable again. Terrifying that media and social media have that kind of real life sway. Talk about straw man villains

It was a pretty speech, pitched well to appeal to our national love of a bit of mea culpa and a dollop of gentlemanly grace in defeat. Well done to whoever wrote it and to Sunak for his performance.

Eh? The US political system is not modelled on the UK system at all, its vastly different

Well I appreciate his speech and doubt that hundreds of disgruntled Conservative voters will be rioting rallying in London, denying Democracy and clashing with Police as happened in 2019.......

He has highlighted the differences between how we can conduct ourselves in UK compared to other countries.

Try to grow up OP.

I thought it was a good speech and well delivered considering how intense the whole situation must be for the leaving PM! I don’t thing a dig but more highlighting the importance of democracy and civility.

Or France?

Meant to quote about dig at France. I doubt France will be orderly next week.

I thought he spoke very well. I voted LD in a Tory/LD constituency (Labour always far behind) but I did still feel for Sunak, since nearly all of the shitshow that caused the Tory wipeout was down to Boris and Truss.* Some TV commentator earlier said Sunak was ‘the worst Tory leader ever’ - WTF?? I found that comment very mean and grossly unfair.

*not to mention Cameron/Brexit earlier, of course.

Don't be ridiculous.

It was a very respectful and dignified speech. He was defeated and he knew and accepted it. Not jarring at all.

Sunak and Starmer were both respectful of each other. There was no undignified snarking. Stop looking for things to take offence at.

Well since it didn’t need saying and was a given I’d rather he didn’t say it, wouldn’t that have been the most gracious way

It did need saying as it’s in no way a given these days anywhere really.

Are you someone that is serially offended?

I think the constant call for people to be perfect is really damaging. Sunak can have failed to address racism effectively AND have given a really dignified speech.
We keep constantly running to the extremes of tribalism.
Time for a return to moderate decency

Yep, he absolutely failed to call out racism in his party. He was far too weak.

But "calling out" isn't always going to work - you tell Lee Anderson he is a racist and he will not be the least bit bothered. Racists don't really care if you think they are racist.

I'd rather he say something about his immigrant grandparents and his Hindu background in his leaving speech than say nothing about them and his faith. Maybe, just maybe, there might be a few moderate Tories out there who remember that next time party members are banging on about the evils of immigration or multi faith society.

I think we will see rising far right populism over the next few years and rising racism and division. Somehow we have to reach out the people who find that appealing to change their minds and simply "calling them out" as racist is not going to work.

Island? What about Northern Ireland?

You may not have wanted him to be PM, but at least do him the courtesy of respecting the dignified, decent way that he has left the job.
This. I didn't vote for him, but I thought it was a lovely speech.
And I'm sad to see how bitter some posters are, not being able to see good in anything.

I heard it as a commentary on the number of countries that do not have democratic elections, that are run as dictatorships. It was an acknowledgement of the fact that the people of the UK had said enough of his party and voted for change.

I dislike the man and his party, I didn't vote Tory but he is not wrong that we are fortunate in the UK that for the most part our elections are not mired in corruption. That kicks in once power gets to people.

Because Farage I'd in bed with Trump and his lot so it's a dig at him.

"I don't know any of the politicians but I do know that they don't live in the real world, are not affected by the impacts of current living that so many of us are. Because of that, what they say really doesn't matter to me"

I do know one of the new MP's and yes, absolutely does not live in the real world, is propped up by her extremely rich husband and parents whilst spouting hypocritical twaddle about being 'one of the people', and when asked to help people in need did absolutely zero. Regardless of her party, I was gutted to see her gain a seat in parliament

I thought Rishi's speech was excellent, very reflective and respectful. He has left the country in a better economic position than he found it by stabilising the economy and bringing down inflation, and hopefully KS will make excellent use of this foundation to make hard working people more prosperous and improve health and education.