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imnotthatkindofmum · 04/07/2024 16:59

Long story short.

Getting a job in a field I am not experienced in but the job description fits my experience of over 15 years.

I do not have a degree. And I left school 30 years ago.

For the new job which they want me to start asap I have been asked for gcse and a level certificates. I do not have these and they have said I have to have them or I can't start. If they are anywhere they're in my parents loft. My parents are in their 80s and live a 2 hr drive away.....and they might not actually even be there. I was also divorced 20 years and a lot of stuff is just gone forever.

I can get certificates but it's going to cost £50 per qualification, take over 20 days and I don't even know what exam boards I did.

The HR contact is aghast that I've never had to show my certificates to anyone. Obviously if it related to the job I could understand it.

So my questions are should I still have my certificates? Does everyone else still have their certificates after 30 years? Have you been asked for (unrelated) certificates to do a job you have experience in?

AIBU that they are BU?

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EBearhug · 05/07/2024 00:14

letsgoooo · 04/07/2024 23:19

After 30 years working do you really think GCSEs taken at 16 are going to tell anyone anything interesting?
GCSE geography? Biology? Seriously?
your employment history will be far more telling.

It might tell you people are telling the truth though. All those people who nudge their grades up one or two points. Still seems a bit unnecessary after 30+ years, but if it were the difference between getting a job o'r not, it's fine by me.

trussedchicken · 04/07/2024 23:55

I'm in my 40s and in the 7 jobs I have had since finishing my A-Levels, I have never once had to show my certificates! I'd find it odd to be asked, although judging from these responses clearly it's very normal for lots of jobs. I think I might vaguely know where my GCSE certificates are, but not sure about the A-Levels.

Woahtherehoney · 04/07/2024 23:54

I am so shocked that so many people have their certificates! Mine are long lost and I’m only 32. It might be because I’ve worked in jobs that have solely relies on my experience as my GCSEs and A Levels mean pretty much nothing compared to my actual work experience and what I’ve learned on the job but I am now thinking I should get replacements just in case.

Yellowcakestand · 04/07/2024 23:51

I had to send mine from 1999 in for the first time ever last year to start an apprenticeship

DramaAlpaca · 04/07/2024 23:49

I've just changed jobs and for the first time ever I've been asked to show all my certificates. I did my O levels in 1980! I can't find any of them, even my degree certificate. I think they might have been at my parents' house and got lost/thrown when they downsized. Anyway, work don't seem too bothered and just said to submit copies for my file if they turn up.

Chatterboxy · 04/07/2024 23:39

I left school in 1976, numerous house moves, god knows what happened to them! Never been asked to show them for any job I’ve held.

NightBirdy · 04/07/2024 23:27

I am 50 and yes, I have my certificates and yes, I have been asked to show them recently (eg when I applied for an administrative job in a school). Needing to prove you have GCSE English & Maths is pretty standard in most desk jobs, I would have thought?

Champere · 04/07/2024 23:21

I’m 40 and recently needed to show degree equivalence. I had some Level 6 qualification certificates and my A level certificates. I couldn’t find my GCSE certificates but found a print out from the school confirming my grades, which was accepted.

It was tucked in my National Record of Achievement - they did bang on about keeping it! 😂

letsgoooo · 04/07/2024 23:19

AllProperTeaIsTheft · 04/07/2024 17:55

I don't think it's archaic to ask for proof of qualifications. Otherwise people could just make stuff up! But then I've never worked in a job where qualifications weren't important.

After 30 years working do you really think GCSEs taken at 16 are going to tell anyone anything interesting?
GCSE geography? Biology? Seriously?
your employment history will be far more telling.

letsgoooo · 04/07/2024 23:16

k1880 · 04/07/2024 17:22

Yes, I do, GCSE, A level, degree and postgrad. From mid 90s onwards. Each represents so much work I am amazed people don't keep them safe. Been asked for them rarely but sometimes over the years, usually only degree cert.

Arguably your school ones are more important when they are your highest qualification. I really hope you can track them down.

I would argue that after 30 years, your GCSEs and a-levels are frankly not going to tell anyone anything compared to what you have done in those intervening 30 years.

grassyknees · 04/07/2024 20:40

I had to dig deep into my parents filing when I applied for a job at 54! I was quite pleased to find I'd done my English Lang O level early 😀

Lovesgreen · 04/07/2024 20:23

I was contacted by a school friend a few years ago asking if I could check my certificates and let her know the exam boards for our GCSE's (from the 90's). She had the same problem and had to pay to get new ones. I have kept mine safe for this very reason. The first thing we did with my sons was scan them all so we have soft copies as well.

Reugny · 04/07/2024 20:13

EBearhug · 04/07/2024 20:07

I have all my certs from the 1980s onwards. I reordered them into a new folder recently, as I managed to lose a sparkly new DBS cert within 2 weeks of receiving it - now also found and filed. I have usually been asked for my degree certificates for jobs, but I have also been asked for maths and English GCSEs, even though I wouldn't have been allowed to do my degrees without them. I was most recently asked for maths & English GCSEs about 4 years ago, for a work-based qualification. (I'm now 52.)

I was surprised in my new job, (I'm a month in,) they didn't ask for any certificates - except my first aider at work one, which is voluntary anyway. There were a couple of people sacked from my last job for claiming qualifications they didn't have - IT, not teaching.

When one company I was working for wanted to make people redundant they double checked everyone's qualifications by phoning up the universities they attended.

The joke was everyone they put in the first redundancy pool they found had told the truth about their background but those who they weren't going to were "hard to trace".

So first round they had to pay everyone off and give us a lot. Second round they didn't. I knew there was a second round as a colleague they didn't get rid off in the first round phoned to check he was getting a fair amount.

EmeraldDreams73 · 04/07/2024 20:09

I have never been asked for mine (left school in 89, graduated in 94, so long time ago) and genuinely have no clue where they'd be. Possibly my parents' attic or worse, my attic (bat and mouse shit hell). I must be very naive, although I never had high status jobs before becoming self employed 20 years ago. I've asked a few friends if they had to produce theirs over the years and the consensus is "not been asked for 20 years, if at all". Clearly we've all been lucky as almost none of us could place them...

I will make sure my dds keep theirs super carefully!

EBearhug · 04/07/2024 20:07

I have all my certs from the 1980s onwards. I reordered them into a new folder recently, as I managed to lose a sparkly new DBS cert within 2 weeks of receiving it - now also found and filed. I have usually been asked for my degree certificates for jobs, but I have also been asked for maths and English GCSEs, even though I wouldn't have been allowed to do my degrees without them. I was most recently asked for maths & English GCSEs about 4 years ago, for a work-based qualification. (I'm now 52.)

I was surprised in my new job, (I'm a month in,) they didn't ask for any certificates - except my first aider at work one, which is voluntary anyway. There were a couple of people sacked from my last job for claiming qualifications they didn't have - IT, not teaching.

Reugny · 04/07/2024 20:07

I have all my original certificates except one of my degree certificates as it was sent to a relatives address. Oddly I have a photocopy of it.

However when my university qualifications have ever needed to be checked, employers have checked with the university directly. This is because degree certificates are easy to forge.

No one has ever checked my Maths and/or English GCSEs due to my A levels than now my degrees.

Whatevershallidowithmylife · 04/07/2024 20:05

No idea where they are and never needed them either. I (was) in management.

imnotthatkindofmum · 04/07/2024 19:59

StMarieforme · 04/07/2024 19:56

They are not BU.

They can ask for any proof of quals that they want.

Do you really want to pass up this job first the sake of £100?

I have no intentions of passing up the job. I've already said that I'm going to get them. This was a discussion about whether it was that important and if people still have their certificates after 30 years if not directly relevant to the job. Obviously a lot of people think it is and still have them. There's nothing wrong with questioning procedures and trying to fully understand them. That's one of the reasons I'm good at what I do.

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Hatty65 · 04/07/2024 19:56

@imnotthatkindofmum 😁

That's ok. I knew from your first post that it wasn't a teaching role because of your surprise. It it had been teaching you'd be well used to dragging out your O level certificates from the early 1980s...😂

StMarieforme · 04/07/2024 19:56

They are not BU.

They can ask for any proof of quals that they want.

Do you really want to pass up this job first the sake of £100?

imnotthatkindofmum · 04/07/2024 19:51

imnotthatkindofmum · 04/07/2024 19:51

@Hatty65 it's not a teaching role! People keep assuming it is but it's not!!!

Oh sorry just saw your next post!

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imnotthatkindofmum · 04/07/2024 19:51

@Hatty65 it's not a teaching role! People keep assuming it is but it's not!!!

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Hatty65 · 04/07/2024 19:49

I understand your role isn't teaching, btw.

But surely it's reasonable that employers want to check that the dentist/doctor/nurse/plumber or whatever actually HAS got some qualification or passed the training course they are claiming to have done?

I'd have thought whatever role you were applying for - if you have put down the exams/qualifications you have on your application form, then you expect to have to produce evidence of this, whatever job you are doing.

TeenDivided · 04/07/2024 19:49

We had to show our degree certs from 75&85 when adopting. Not because you need a degree to adopt but to show we were being honest about our claims.

Bluewallss · 04/07/2024 19:48

Nope never. I have to prove my professional qualification but it’s on a googleable public register, so I’ve never shown anyone paper proof of that either.