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To think no politicians care at all

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Freyaaaa · 04/07/2024 16:14

So I was at a dinner party last night and all my friends where saying they're voting for labour and seemed really enthusiastic that everything will get better.
I too am voting labour but don't think much will change.. I have some American friends and they say Biden is just as bad as trump when it comes to politics even though they're on opposite sides. I feel it's the same in the UK.

I personally think most politicians are in it for themselves and serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism, and they are just here to manage all the chaos that's created in-between.
I think statistically things may look better but I don't think we will notice it in our daily lives.

I was saying this to my friends last night and they looked at me with sorrow. One of my friends said maybe I was depressed. Maybe I spend to much time on twitter...

Does anyone else feel like this?

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Rainbow1901 · 04/07/2024 21:53

I hope our former MP makes it back to the Houses of Parliament - he has done so much for our town that had been ignored by the previous two MPs for Labour for years. He has been fighting to get our A&E reinstated as the nearest A&E 15 miles away can't cope with the larger geographic area it is expected to cover. He has started flood control projects to protect areas devastated by recent severe flooding, he is campaigning for a new motorway slip road to ease congestion in the town and many other projects. But his hands were tied by the local council being predominantly Labour run - who spent some of the funds received on projects which were wasteful to say the least.
Even if Labour are in power tomorrow - I hope we will still have a little patch of blue - many people are voting for this man because of the sterling work he has done for the home town and district that he loves. This ethos is something
that many other MPs should follow but don't!

Saintmariesleuth · 04/07/2024 21:30

@jawjaw Unfortunately my interactions with politicians have not been overly positive, but I hope I am proven wrong and meet some of the more effective ones. I am sure that some MPs and local councillors work very hard in their role.

I agree that the politicians who dominate the headlines will likely be those who are controversial or involved in a scandal, so it can come across that all of them are tarred with the same brush.

I also agree with the the poster who suggested that social media has had a negative impact on politics- although populist politics has always occurred, it seems to have ramped up with the rise of social media. I think this means that a lot more time and attention is taken up on image and away from the actual work than ever before.

Tinkerbot · 04/07/2024 20:29

They are too influenced by headlines and Twitter nonsense - just f…ing ignore it and stop pandering to idiots.

BUT then you get the mugs public going along with the nonsense -the worst thing was T May sorting the elderly care issue -then the oldies who would have most benefitted believed Labour when they called it a dementia tax wtf really do you oldies (I’m one) really think you aren’t at risk -unbelievable idiocy -MPs don’t have a hope with idiots for constituents.

ExtraOnions · 04/07/2024 20:25

Some are great .. some are dreadful .. some are thieves, some are defrauders, some care, some lie etc

Try to meet the ones on your local area, check the voting record, talk to them. I don’t like my local Tory MP, I don’t like his voting record, and I don’t like that what he says on his electoral leaflets does not match what he has actually done in parliament

I think it’s wrong to say they are all that same, or they all don’t care .. there are some good people out there

Mummy2024 · 04/07/2024 20:21

Freyaaaa · 04/07/2024 16:14

So I was at a dinner party last night and all my friends where saying they're voting for labour and seemed really enthusiastic that everything will get better.
I too am voting labour but don't think much will change.. I have some American friends and they say Biden is just as bad as trump when it comes to politics even though they're on opposite sides. I feel it's the same in the UK.

I personally think most politicians are in it for themselves and serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism, and they are just here to manage all the chaos that's created in-between.
I think statistically things may look better but I don't think we will notice it in our daily lives.

I was saying this to my friends last night and they looked at me with sorrow. One of my friends said maybe I was depressed. Maybe I spend to much time on twitter...

Does anyone else feel like this?

Your friends haven't awoken to reality and probably never will. We are pitted against eachother with partisan politics to prevent us seeing the real problem....

Mummy2024 · 04/07/2024 20:19

Freyaaaa · 04/07/2024 16:14

So I was at a dinner party last night and all my friends where saying they're voting for labour and seemed really enthusiastic that everything will get better.
I too am voting labour but don't think much will change.. I have some American friends and they say Biden is just as bad as trump when it comes to politics even though they're on opposite sides. I feel it's the same in the UK.

I personally think most politicians are in it for themselves and serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism, and they are just here to manage all the chaos that's created in-between.
I think statistically things may look better but I don't think we will notice it in our daily lives.

I was saying this to my friends last night and they looked at me with sorrow. One of my friends said maybe I was depressed. Maybe I spend to much time on twitter...

Does anyone else feel like this?

I 100% agree with your entire post.... We are all slaves to capitalism, there is no choice for us... even the water we need to live comes at a price.... They absolutely are all the same and that has become transparently clear with kier starmer, he isn't even good at hiding it.... the entire thing is a farse

HeddaGarbled · 04/07/2024 20:14

Jess Phillips?

JawJaw · 04/07/2024 20:10

@Saintmariesleuth I agree it’s probably true that the good ones don’t make it into the Westminster inner circle. But that inner circle is small. Outside it are a majority of MPs just slogging away, answering 300 emails a day (some of them life threatening) going to meetings in the evenings, dealing with constituents issues of every single conceivable type, all of them demanding action and response. On top of that, umpteen late nights and committees in parliament. It is incredibly time consuming, hard work for which an MP is rarely thanked and often threatened. On top of that, many of them are earning less than they could do outside parliament.

We see a handful of the same politicians in the media. Those at the top, and those who have broken the rules. It’s a bit like believing that all actors are rich. In the meantime the majority just get on with their life. One day you will really need an MPs help and perhaps only then you will realise.

LiterallyOnFire · 04/07/2024 19:59

BCBird · 04/07/2024 17:53

Today it was with a heavy heart that I.went to vote. No one party stood out for me as the party who were in tune with issues I was most concerned about. I could not bring myself not to vote, but I did so very reluctantly

Me too.

I remember how happy I was in 1997. Not feeling like that this time.

JawJaw · 04/07/2024 19:57

@Oblomov24 really, all of them? Every last one?

Jutemat · 04/07/2024 19:48

What trough? The backhanders trough? I honestly think most do it for the kudos and the power.

Saintmariesleuth · 04/07/2024 19:42

I feel similarly OP- you only have to look back at the various 'sleaze' stories, backhanders and expenses scandals to feel quite dispirited.

I think there are a few who genuinely want to serve their constituency, but I suspect that these are rarely the ones who make it in to the Westminster inner circle.

Oblomov24 · 04/07/2024 19:36

I do. They are all grim, out for themselves.

5128gap · 04/07/2024 19:24

Well I can't see into Keir Starmers soul. But I've read the manifesto and if he can bring about even some of the things in it, thats good enough for me. Whether he cares or not (personally I think he does. He's a wealthy successful man, so why else would be front a party that will prioritise the needs of the disadvantaged over the wishes of the priveleged? Counter intuitive, surely?) Whether he cares is largely irrelevant. It's his actions not his emotions I'm interested in.

JawJaw · 04/07/2024 19:18

@Jutemat what trough do they have their noses in though? Most of them will be earning less and working longer hours than their usual jobs.

There are some corrupt MPs, yes and we have had way more unprincipled politicians in the last 14 years. But the majority stick to the rules. For every Boris Johnson there are 50 decent and civilised politicians.

Seriously, get in touch with your constituency MP. Email them a question, go to a meeting, ask to meet them at the Houses of Parliament for a tour. You will most likely find someone earnest, conscientious and committed to their job.

Jutemat · 04/07/2024 19:07

They all want their noses in the trough and will say anything to get votes.

They are egotists, they want people to pander to them. Thats worth more to them than money.

spuddy4 · 04/07/2024 19:04

Everyone saying they could earn more in a different job is forgetting to factor in expenses and the backhanders which every party has been guilty of in the past.

Londonrach1 · 04/07/2024 19:03

They all the same...I feel old but there no difference between labour and Tory....I promise you in 5 years you want a change ...they both the same.

CranfordScones · 04/07/2024 19:01

Most trends in social and economic indicators are upwards - the number of people who have a vested interest in concealing that increases at election time.

Capitalism determines who allocates capital in the economy (private individuals or government). We have a mixed economy. If you think that's bad then read about the crushing joylessness and corruption of communism, not to mention the prisons and gulags.

The political system isn't perfect and would probably benefit from better quality politicians. But that seems to be a problem in most countries.

Freyaaaa · 04/07/2024 18:27

WellwellwellInever · 04/07/2024 17:17

Our candidate where we used to live was amazing. If Labour get in then I’m hoping that she will get a chance at senior roles because she was bloody brilliant. Fearless, hard working, compassionate, intelligent and worked so hard. I’d love her to be PM.

I think there are a few in the main parties who are genuine and really care but I think it’s such a tough job with so much backlash that it attracts psychopaths.

I do think Kier genuinely cares about people though.

I'm sorry but I've gone past the whole " he seems a nice guy and genuinely caring" we shall see! Hopefully I'm wrong and everything gets better.

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Freyaaaa · 04/07/2024 18:24

Exactly! To think UK, USA, France, Sweden, Germany, Italy etc... are all having major problems in society and with mistrust of politicians... I've given up fully on politics. Things will get worst nationally under all these parties like they have in most other countries.

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OrwellianTimes · 04/07/2024 18:23

Our previous Labour MPwas amazing, she did a lot for local people. Shame she got ousted and retired.

needhelpwiththisplease · 04/07/2024 18:20

Well my local mps all took 5k so a company could put up masts outside people's houses.
One also voted against FSM for the less fortunate during lockdown.
The independent voted to put 3000 houses on the green belt even though he was voted in because he campaigned against it.
He was the deciding vote.
So I assume he took some form of cash donation to sell everyone out.
They all just do whatever is they want and not what the constituents want, even though they are supposed to represent us.

JawJaw · 04/07/2024 18:14

@needhelpwiththisplease can you say exactly what it is that an MP gets out of the job that you object to?

needhelpwiththisplease · 04/07/2024 18:10

I'm not voting for anyone today.
They are all in it for themselves