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To think no politicians care at all

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Freyaaaa · 04/07/2024 16:14

So I was at a dinner party last night and all my friends where saying they're voting for labour and seemed really enthusiastic that everything will get better.
I too am voting labour but don't think much will change.. I have some American friends and they say Biden is just as bad as trump when it comes to politics even though they're on opposite sides. I feel it's the same in the UK.

I personally think most politicians are in it for themselves and serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism, and they are just here to manage all the chaos that's created in-between.
I think statistically things may look better but I don't think we will notice it in our daily lives.

I was saying this to my friends last night and they looked at me with sorrow. One of my friends said maybe I was depressed. Maybe I spend to much time on twitter...

Does anyone else feel like this?

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nootropics · 09/07/2024 15:33

oh dear

rickyrickygrimes · 06/07/2024 05:31

I think politics attracts a real mixed bag of personalities, probably with a higher proportion of narcissists and sociopaths than the general population.

but irrespective of that, even if Labour are nice / caring etc, they are not going to be able to achieve what they say they want to. I agree with @Singleandproud : the world has changed in a multitude of ways and the old solutions are not going to work. In the bbc they were interviewing people in Grimsby, which went Tory last time and is now back to Labour. I don’t believe that any political party is going to be able to solve the massive socioeconomic problems in places like that.

Nat6999 · 06/07/2024 03:30

My MP was brilliant when I lost my enhanced PIP. She kept me informed & did everything she could, including taking my case to the Parliamentory group for benefits. From her taking on my case to me getting it reinstated was about 2 weeks, in which time she emailed me nearly every day. I'm pleased to say she has been appointed a minister in the new Labour government.

decionsdecisions62 · 06/07/2024 02:58

No I think certain politicians care about people and communities. Tends to be the more socialist ones tbh. Green Party , Kier etc.

However others are just power crazy; Farage, Johnson, Trump.

Others care about money; Rishi

I think what politicians care about aligns to their political leanings.

Freyaaaa · 06/07/2024 01:15

Mummy2024 · 05/07/2024 23:50

Do you have to pay to drink water?? Do you have to pay to eat? Yes you do.... the fundamentals of life... we are slaves to consumerism the fact that you don't see it, means your enslavers are doing a good job! Well on you anyway...

It's not conspiracy lol 😆 it's a clear as day

As for local government doing a good job that's the biggest laugh I've had all week!

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Exactly, most people have to work until there in their late 60's and for people saying... Well become a millionaire!! The system doesn't work like that, it relies on most people needing to work all their lives.
The retirement age & col keeps rising whilst the standard of living keeps falling.

And no government can fixed that. Not the red team or the blue team.

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ll09sm · 06/07/2024 00:41

The quality of politicians and those running public institutions have never been lower. They tend to be stupid, corrupt, or narcissists who believe they are superior to everyone else.

Politicians, especially MPs are generally scraping the bottom of the barrel in every way.

Singleandproud · 06/07/2024 00:05

I just think that the only thing in the coffers when Keir opens them are going to be two lonely moths. There is no money to do what labour need to do to support those who need it most. It's going to be decades before we come out of the slump that was COVID and the financial impact that had.

Four years simply isnt enough time to make the difference they need either, we need a full restructure of the education system for the modern working world and to take into account the additional pressures of having so many children with complex needs in mainstream and the NHS clearly isn't working either and isn't sustainable in its current state, a tiered health insurance process / or contribution system on a sliding scale might be the way to go for those that can afford it, I'd certainly pay in if it meant I could actually see a doctor.

A reform of migration policy perhaps to echo Australia and Canada's process and a caring middle ground for the boats, supporting the vulnerable people.

I think we need to accept that we aren't going to get communities back to where they were and nor is there money for community improvement, National Service isnt appropriate but community centre volunteer hubs that encourage people to get involved in taking pride in their local area, litter picking, repainting areas, etc would work well and be a labour style project. There are lots of people becoming quite isolated now and not just those who have physical or MH issues or are elderly but those on a good wage that WFH I can go all week without talking to anyone in person other than DD and something like that might work wonders.

Although I live in a Reform area now so who knows what that holds in place.

Mummy2024 · 05/07/2024 23:50

bergamotorange · 05/07/2024 00:50

I understand why your friends looked at you this way - you sound like a conspiracy theorist and very detached from reality.

This serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism in particular is pure social media conspiracy stuff.

Do you know much about local politics in your area? A lot of hardworking people doing good stuff in all areas of the country.

Do you have to pay to drink water?? Do you have to pay to eat? Yes you do.... the fundamentals of life... we are slaves to consumerism the fact that you don't see it, means your enslavers are doing a good job! Well on you anyway...

It's not conspiracy lol 😆 it's a clear as day

As for local government doing a good job that's the biggest laugh I've had all week!

XChrome · 05/07/2024 22:22

Bothsidesism is a crock of shit. Some do care more than others. There is no way Biden, for all his faults, could ever be as destructive as a dictatorial, treasonous psychopath like Trump. Anybody who says otherwise should be considered functionally brain dead and is best ignored. Please don't fall into that trap. It's lazy thinking and often just an excuse not to vote.

FacingTheWall · 05/07/2024 22:22

Freyaaaa · 05/07/2024 01:11

I'm sorry did you call me a racist because I'm concerned that many people in my area don't speak English?
Who cares about social cohesion and having shared values...

Not speaking english doesn’t mean that you don’t have shared values…

Merryoldgoat · 05/07/2024 22:15

I’m in a safe Labour seat and it’s safe because the MP is a powerhouse. She has surgeries weekly, actually follows things up, helps where she can and you can see her all the time in the community.

You don’t work like her if you don’t care. Shes been the MP for a good 20 years and never in shadow role - she’s a solid constituency MP and she gets around 60% of the vote.

Freyaaaa · 05/07/2024 22:12

Thankyou all for your comments! I'm just happy the labour party won! Hopefully everything works out for all of us. 🔆☀️🌻💫🌞

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bragpuss · 05/07/2024 01:56

We want good and caring people to want to be MPs. Its reasonable to assume some good and caring people are in the process or have achieved that and are MPs. If people then say all MPs are bad and uncaring then why would those people waste their effort when they can't win? Therefore you should target the bad ones.

thanks for all the thanks btw, you're too kind

Freyaaaa · 05/07/2024 01:40

HeddaGarbled · 05/07/2024 01:30

Yes, I am suggesting you may be racist. The implication is that you want him/her to eradicate non-English people from your neighbourhood and if she/he doesn’t they are uncaring.

Well suggest away! I stand by my comment!! If you move to the UK you should learn English. 💃🏼

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HeddaGarbled · 05/07/2024 01:30

Yes, I am suggesting you may be racist. The implication is that you want him/her to eradicate non-English people from your neighbourhood and if she/he doesn’t they are uncaring.

Freyaaaa · 05/07/2024 01:11

I'm sorry did you call me a racist because I'm concerned that many people in my area don't speak English?
Who cares about social cohesion and having shared values...

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fungibletoken · 05/07/2024 01:11

I felt the same looking at the manifestos for our constituency. I think we had 7 or 8 candidates to choose from and despite them all throwing around comments about our area being "the place I call home" just one leaflet had any information or proposals that were specific to our area. Several candidates don't even live here. Just smacks of career politics and is utterly depressing.

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Freyaaaa · 05/07/2024 01:03

NewName24 · 05/07/2024 00:42

Robert Buckland, speaking now on the BBC, is clearly politician who cares. He was even thanked by his opponent for his public service over the previous years. Just one of hundreds. (and no, I don't know him personally and haven't voted for his party).

Ever heard of lip service? Some people think Boris Johnson cared....

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Freyaaaa · 05/07/2024 01:02

Saintmariesleuth · 04/07/2024 21:30

@jawjaw Unfortunately my interactions with politicians have not been overly positive, but I hope I am proven wrong and meet some of the more effective ones. I am sure that some MPs and local councillors work very hard in their role.

I agree that the politicians who dominate the headlines will likely be those who are controversial or involved in a scandal, so it can come across that all of them are tarred with the same brush.

I also agree with the the poster who suggested that social media has had a negative impact on politics- although populist politics has always occurred, it seems to have ramped up with the rise of social media. I think this means that a lot more time and attention is taken up on image and away from the actual work than ever before.

Absolutely! Here's hoping for a genuine change! I voted labour so have to believe but I'm not hopeful.

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Freyaaaa · 05/07/2024 01:00

bergamotorange · 05/07/2024 00:50

I understand why your friends looked at you this way - you sound like a conspiracy theorist and very detached from reality.

This serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism in particular is pure social media conspiracy stuff.

Do you know much about local politics in your area? A lot of hardworking people doing good stuff in all areas of the country.

Local politics in my area? Well let's see... In the past month

  • 4 teenagers have been stabbed where I live in the past month
  • number of food banks rising in my area
  • my local high street is 90% takeaways, gambling shops and charity shops.
  • most of my friends are working 2 or more jobs and still struggling to pay the bills. (Yes, some of them are educated).
  • in my local area many people don't speak the English language at all
  • ambulance wait times are over 2 hours for a cat 2 call out

I don't need to understand local politics when I experience the decisions of it...

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Teddybarr · 05/07/2024 00:55

Maybe I spend to much time on twitter..

Sounds like you do, yes.

MPs are just people at the end of the day, it's a job; albeit an important one. Some are brilliant and in it for the right reasons, some are in it to build on their career and aren't that bothered about their constituents and the country. Anyone can go through the processes to get nominated as a candidate though, not many people bother as its hard graft to get there but you could do.

bergamotorange · 05/07/2024 00:50

Freyaaaa · 04/07/2024 16:14

So I was at a dinner party last night and all my friends where saying they're voting for labour and seemed really enthusiastic that everything will get better.
I too am voting labour but don't think much will change.. I have some American friends and they say Biden is just as bad as trump when it comes to politics even though they're on opposite sides. I feel it's the same in the UK.

I personally think most politicians are in it for themselves and serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism, and they are just here to manage all the chaos that's created in-between.
I think statistically things may look better but I don't think we will notice it in our daily lives.

I was saying this to my friends last night and they looked at me with sorrow. One of my friends said maybe I was depressed. Maybe I spend to much time on twitter...

Does anyone else feel like this?

I understand why your friends looked at you this way - you sound like a conspiracy theorist and very detached from reality.

This serve the globalist agenda of making us all drones to capitalism and consumerism in particular is pure social media conspiracy stuff.

Do you know much about local politics in your area? A lot of hardworking people doing good stuff in all areas of the country.

NewName24 · 05/07/2024 00:42

Robert Buckland, speaking now on the BBC, is clearly politician who cares. He was even thanked by his opponent for his public service over the previous years. Just one of hundreds. (and no, I don't know him personally and haven't voted for his party).

NewName24 · 05/07/2024 00:37

YABU.
There are over 600 MPs (650 seat, I think).
Many of them are genuine people who work hard to serve their constituents.

Sadly, probably a smaller % than 40, 50 years ago, but YABVU to say no politicians care.

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