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NY Times( How Britain has changed during 14 years of Tory rule) shocking

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T0pSh0p · 04/07/2024 08:23

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/03/world/europe/uk-election-better-worse.html

It’s shocking to see it in a simple list. So much damage done. There is a reason why we’re all so fed up.

NY Times( How Britain has changed during 14 years of Tory rule) shocking
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MattDamon · 04/07/2024 09:05

T0pSh0p · 04/07/2024 08:53

It has won the Pulitzer Prize for excellence in journalism more than any other organisation.

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Which means nothing when you put ideology above facts.

HowIrresponsible · 04/07/2024 08:59

Hilarious coming from a country with no health care, no maternity leave, no workers rights, almost no annual leave allowance.

The NY times can go to hell.

Churchview · 04/07/2024 08:57

LawrieForShepherdsBoy · 04/07/2024 08:52

The trans thing feels disproportionate here on MN. Labour would stand to lose far more votes if they followed Tory’s lead on this one.

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Polls detailing the important factors people take into account when voting never even register the TW issue. People care about the NHS, housing, the money in their pocket, poverty, employment. This issue so fiercely debated on MN doesn't even make the list.

Pelham678 · 04/07/2024 08:57

MattDamon · 04/07/2024 08:48

Their reporting has been compromised by ideology for years now.

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I'd trust them more than the UK media with their lies about bendy bananas and millions more for the NHS because of Brexit.

They have far fewer reasons to lie than the establishment owned UK media.

ssd · 04/07/2024 08:56

After reading your post op, there are still people on here who will vote tory as they think the tories are on women's side...they dont realise your post is about 50%women!

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T0pSh0p · 04/07/2024 08:53

MattDamon · 04/07/2024 08:48

Their reporting has been compromised by ideology for years now.

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It has won the Pulitzer Prize for excellence in journalism more than any other organisation.

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LawrieForShepherdsBoy · 04/07/2024 08:52

JacquesHarlow · 04/07/2024 08:31

This is a great post. Thanks for sharing

sadly I think a lot of people vote according to whatever the social media echo chamber feeds them about emotive issues that bother them

So despite the fact of the last 14 years, many on here will junk a vote for Keir because of the trans issue.

Or others will junk any Labour vote because of “potential tax rises” (having swallowed the Tory attack lines whole)

So it doesn’t really matter for many about facts. Facts are great, but they are led by emotion, and our naturally Conservative voting country will see many shy Tories pop up later

The trans thing feels disproportionate here on MN. Labour would stand to lose far more votes if they followed Tory’s lead on this one.

MattDamon · 04/07/2024 08:48

T0pSh0p · 04/07/2024 08:41

New York Times is normally pretty good.

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Their reporting has been compromised by ideology for years now.

US2gether · 04/07/2024 08:46

The food bank need is so shameful. Were the Tories attempting to make us a third world country with growing need for food banks, poverty, homelessness? They were very successful at increasing all these things

Greentreesandbushes · 04/07/2024 08:42

The reduction in crime isn’t a true statistic as it’s a case of less crime actually being reported vs true crime reduction

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T0pSh0p · 04/07/2024 08:41

MattDamon · 04/07/2024 08:36

Would be good to see this fact checked by a UK news source.

I hate the Tories, except on Women's rights, but I have zero faith in American reporting atm.

New York Times is normally pretty good.

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MattDamon · 04/07/2024 08:36

Would be good to see this fact checked by a UK news source.

I hate the Tories, except on Women's rights, but I have zero faith in American reporting atm.

US2gether · 04/07/2024 08:35

I agree appalling damage to the country.

They have increased the wealth of billionaires though and allowed sleeze and lies to increase. So many are blind to the damage though.

JacquesHarlow · 04/07/2024 08:31

This is a great post. Thanks for sharing

sadly I think a lot of people vote according to whatever the social media echo chamber feeds them about emotive issues that bother them

So despite the fact of the last 14 years, many on here will junk a vote for Keir because of the trans issue.

Or others will junk any Labour vote because of “potential tax rises” (having swallowed the Tory attack lines whole)

So it doesn’t really matter for many about facts. Facts are great, but they are led by emotion, and our naturally Conservative voting country will see many shy Tories pop up later