14 years, Highest taxes in 70 years, Brexit, ‘F**k business’, Mini-budget, poverty increase, Covid lockdown parties, Doctors strikes, National Service, Rwanda, Culture Wars etc

Under Labour, in order to qualify for a GRC you need to be diagnosed with dysphoria, wait two years, then see a gender specialist, not a GP.

Predators in prisons happened under the Tories. Trans ideology in schools happened under the Tories.

Wake up.

Blair killed millions. I think given the choice, I would not be picking Blair for a rerun.

She may have lasted days but her legacy has bankrupted Britain. But please do keep reinforcing the point. We wouldn’t want anyone to forget the damage Liz Truss inflicted.

I agree sterilising and mutilating children is horrendous and in years to come will be the subject of police investigation and court cases. Labour are going to make this situation even worse. Vulnerable children need support and counselling, not surgery and labels.

Two key areas of misunderstanding here.

Firstly, of course small numbers of people can impact larger numbers of people. 1 man in a woman's prison is going to have significant impact on many women. Ditto domestic violence shelters, rape counselling, etc.

Secondly, getting an GRC is not something that only 0.1% of the population can get. Any man who wants one will be able to go to the GP and say they 'feel like a woman' and that's enough. So the 50% of the population who are not women will be able to legally become women if they want that

YANBU I no longer live in a labour area so tactically Lib Dem for me

I don't understand who would vote for the conservatives in their current state (unless your mp really is great) 100% respect different political views but this batch of tories are not to be respected.

some people I know seem to vote as its a staus flag to vote Conservative - very odd.

The answer is 0. 😂

As someone else said on another thread, it's like picking between chlamydia and gonorrhea.

They are practically the same.

Really,go back to history, Liz Truss was a fool that lasted days, Tony Blair should be tried as a war criminal

I think you mean shills.

However many of us are actual ex Labour Party members. Not Tory shills by a long shot.

I genuinely hope I am wrong and they stop sterilising and mutilating kids. But all signs are pointing towards rolling back in the Cass recommendations and reconvening pumping cancer drugs into kids who play with the wrong toys.

@Catza
This is such a red herring though. Less than 0.1% of population identifies as transgender woman. How this absolute minority can impact on your day to day life is absolutely beyond me. The likelihood of you coming across a transgender female in a “female space” is virtually 0.

Good apart from the numbers you start with are wrong, your calculations are wrong and your conclusions are wrong.

The census put the trans population as 5 times higher than you stated, and even this is widely believed to be too lower a figure by groups on all sides of the debate, due to inaccuracies in the census.

Secondly the likelihood of you meeting even your incorrect figure of 0.1% in a female space is clearly way higher than zero. If you use such spaces a couple of times a week, it is almost mathematically certain that you will meet someone from any given 0.1% of the population sooner or later.

Thirdly the logic that if a particular woman might never see a male in her spaces means to vote on this is illogical, is obviously flawed. If I think something is unfair, unethical and completely avoidable I will vote against it. Most women will come across males in female spaces and services at some point and many will be unharmed and unphased by it. There will be women however who due to circumstances may come across men frequently and/or be profoundly affected by it, like the nurses who were forced to change with a creepy male, the many sportswoman who have to compete against males, or the victims of trauma who want a female only space to heal and are denied this due to this crappy ideology.

That happened under the Tories. Starmer said he doesn't want Trans ideology taught in schools. I think it's abhorrent and can't believe it happened.

They bloody bankrupted the country and will do it again

They didn’t actually. But Liz Truss certainly did.

As if. Keep trying.

Op please fk off , go back to 1997 and see what labour did: opened up borders thinking only 20k would come in, sold gold reserves, went in cahoots for an illegal war based on hearsay of chemical weapons which was later disproven.
They bloody bankrupted the country and will do it again.

I agree op.

Its laughable the only thing the tory shrills can say is that labour dont know what a woman is. Utterly pathetic. As if the tories are interested in ordinary women!!!

Exactly

It astonishes me how many grown adults live in a cartoon world of black and white / heroes and villans.

So childish

We'll see what Labour plans to do to solve these problems. They sure as shit haven't told us in their manifesto beyond they're growing the economy.

What that looks like is anyone's guess.i don't think they know.

Oh dear. The economy crashed because of the market in the USA.
But you know that don't you.

Never forget how good Labour are.

Between 1997 and 2010 Labour was continuously in government. Here are Labour’s top 50 achievements during those years.

Longest period of sustained low inflation since the 60s.
Low mortgage rates.
Introduced the National Minimum Wage and raised it to £5.52.
Over 14,000 more police in England and Wales.
Cut overall crime by 32 per cent.
Record levels of literacy and numeracy in schools.
Young people achieving some of the best ever results at 14, 16, and 18.
Funding for every pupil in England has doubled.
Employment is at its highest level ever.
Written off up to 100 per cent of debt owed by poorest countries.
85,000 more nurses.
32,000 more doctors.
Brought back matrons to hospital wards.
Devolved power to the Scottish Parliament.
Devolved power to the Welsh Assembly.
Dads now get paternity leave of 2 weeks for the first time.
NHS Direct offering free convenient patient advice.
Gift aid was worth £828 million to charities last year.
Restored city-wide government to London.
Record number of students in higher education.
Child benefit up 26 per cent since 1997.
Delivered 2,200 Sure Start Children’s Centres.
Introduced the Equality and Human Rights Commission.
£200 winter fuel payment to pensioners & up to £300 for over-80s.
On course to exceed our Kyoto target for reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
Restored devolved government to Northern Ireland.
Over 36,000 more teachers in England and 274,000 more support staff and teaching assistants.
All full time workers now have a right to 24 days paid holiday.
A million pensioners lifted out of poverty.
600,000 children lifted out of relative poverty.
Introduced child tax credit giving more money to parents.
Scrapped Section 28 and introduced Civil Partnerships.
Brought over 1 million social homes up to standard.
Inpatient waiting lists down by over half a million since 1997.
Banned fox hunting.
Cleanest rivers, beaches, drinking water and air since before the industrial revolution.
Free TV licences for over-75s.
Banned fur farming and the testing of cosmetics on animals.
Free breast cancer screening for all women aged between 50-70.
Free off peak local bus travel for over-60s.
New Deal – helped over 1.8 million people into work.
Over 3 million child trust funds have been started.
Free eye test for over 60s.
More than doubled the number of apprenticeships.
Free entry to national museums and galleries.
Overseas aid budget more than doubled.
Heart disease deaths down by 150,000 and cancer deaths down by 50,000.
Cut long-term youth unemployment by 75 per cent.
Free nursery places for every three and four-year-olds.
Free fruit for most four to six-year-olds at school.

And what have the Conservatives done to help over the past 15 years?

I have concerns for the women. Because they are women.

ETA: To be fair if you don't see how putting men into prisons with women is a concern then you are probably way beyond help.

'This is such a red herring though. Less than 0.1% of population identifies as transgender woman. How this absolute minority can impact on your day to day life is absolutely beyond me. The likelihood of you coming across a transgender female in a “female space” is virtually 0'

Must just be my dumb luck to have come across men dressed as women in a 'female space' twice in the last 3-4 weeks. Now, I strongly believe that the 2 chancers I ran into were no more genuinely 'trans' than I am, but we're not allowed to say that, and under a Labour govt, we'll not be allowed to say it but with more consequences.

I will be voting Labour because they're the only party locally who will beat the Tories but if there's any nonsense about 'female spaces' being open to blokes in dresses I'll be kicking up the most extraordinary stink.