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Voting labour for the first time. Anyone else?

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Lupina12 · 04/07/2024 06:31

Labour are far from perfect, but I like Keir Starmer and I think they are the best party to turn things around from the awful mess the incumbents have got us into.

He’s not glossy or witty or funny, but he seems decent - (he clearly has a wonderful wife and that only reflects well on him!)

Anyway, just curious - anyone else voting Labour for the first time? I’m 40 by the way and in the south east.

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Livelovebehappy · 04/07/2024 12:14

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/07/2024 12:10

What's left of Socialist Labour, and a pale imitation of what used to actually pass as socialist.

If they're your "hard left", then presumably in your head the likes of Braverman is a moderate centrist.

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Just cannot believe that Momentum can be anything other that hard left. Again, I repeat, how would you describe them, bearing in mind the other options are centre, or soft left?

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/07/2024 12:14

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:13

Rayner is the very pin up girl of the hard left and could be deputy PM or did you expect us not to notice??

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How are you going to cope tomorrow?

KimberleyClark · 04/07/2024 12:13

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:09

Yes 3 day weeks and no electricity and an IMF bailout to keep the country afloat was Labour's 'gift' to us all.

It was Edward Heath, a Conservative PM who introduced the three day week.

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:13

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/07/2024 12:10

What's left of Socialist Labour, and a pale imitation of what used to actually pass as socialist.

If they're your "hard left", then presumably in your head the likes of Braverman is a moderate centrist.

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Rayner is the very pin up girl of the hard left and could be deputy PM or did you expect us not to notice??

Livelovebehappy · 04/07/2024 12:12

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:05

You are talking about it like it is a football team, let them have a go?!
You do know Labour will bankrupt the country potentially for generations, it is not a party game where everyone gets their turn. It has deadly serious consequences for everyone.

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I agree. But we know that it’s going to be a Labour landslide here. Considering only two years ago that it was widely said that Labour would never get into power again, just shows how far the Tories have gone downwards. I’m pissed of with Sunak as he did nothing to avoid this. In fact he did nothing full stop. And here we are. On the precipice of God knows what. I know Labour are shit, as do you, but to get others to realise that, especially the newer generation of voters (who don’t remember what it’s really like under Labour), we have to let them have this one. Too late to accept anything else. I was saying that I’m prepared to see if ‘old’ lefty Labour have gone, as I have little choice. I know deep down that they will drag us down the road of old, but just stating that this is their chance. If they don’t deliver in the next four years, the new generation of voters will know what we know.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/07/2024 12:11

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:07

Momentum are very hard left. Some pp are batshit. Are they even further left - communists.

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Some pp are batshit

Aren't they just...

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/07/2024 12:10

Livelovebehappy · 04/07/2024 12:05

Of course Momentum represent the (very) far left of Labour. How would you describe them?? (Ffs)

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What's left of Socialist Labour, and a pale imitation of what used to actually pass as socialist.

If they're your "hard left", then presumably in your head the likes of Braverman is a moderate centrist.

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:09

Yes 3 day weeks and no electricity and an IMF bailout to keep the country afloat was Labour's 'gift' to us all.

cavalier · 04/07/2024 12:08

Fightthepower · 04/07/2024 11:17

are you referring to the NHS and rail strikes that the Tories appear to be incapable of resolving?

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That’s ok .. Labour will bow down and the whole country will be on strike like in tbe late 70s .. “winter of discontent “ it’s all on Google wiki

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:07

Livelovebehappy · 04/07/2024 12:05

Of course Momentum represent the (very) far left of Labour. How would you describe them?? (Ffs)

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Momentum are very hard left. Some pp are batshit. Are they even further left - communists.

Livelovebehappy · 04/07/2024 12:05

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/07/2024 11:58

There's absolutely nothing "Hard Left" about Momentum ffs

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Of course Momentum represent the (very) far left of Labour. How would you describe them?? (Ffs)

Hummingbird75 · 04/07/2024 12:05

Livelovebehappy · 04/07/2024 12:03

And like I said, the Tories have been crap, and I agreed - let Labour have a chance. Let’s see what they do to turn it around. I will be the first to hold my hands up if things improve under their leadership, but I sense people already making excuses for them ‘…well it’s not gonna be sorted for a loooong while, as will take time (years!?) to repair the mess…’. Nope. We will expect some improvement in the next four years. And definitely not a downward turn. And if not - out they go. I’m being fair here. Happy to let them have a go….

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You are talking about it like it is a football team, let them have a go?!
You do know Labour will bankrupt the country potentially for generations, it is not a party game where everyone gets their turn. It has deadly serious consequences for everyone.

NasiDagang · 04/07/2024 12:04

I'm voting for the first time in my life, Labour party.

cavalier · 04/07/2024 12:04

5475878237NC · 04/07/2024 06:45

No. I usually vote Labour/lib Dem but am voting for party of women to register my discontent with all of the parties in protecting women's rights. If that wasn't sn option I'd spoil my ballot. I can't understand a single woman voting for labour.

100% agree
I hope it makes massive dent in the votes if more women realise what fear and anxiety they have caused to all involved and affected by the safe spaces debacle.

dont trust them one jot

Livelovebehappy · 04/07/2024 12:03

Icepop79 · 04/07/2024 07:50

I’m middle England. Under Tories my mortgage has gone up, my energy bills have gone up, my food bills have gone up, the beaches I used to go are no longer safe to swim in because they’re full of shit. I can’t get a GP appointment, I dread any time my kids might need to go to A&E. I had to move my daughter from state to private school because her state school was completely unable to manage disruptive behaviour - too few teachers/teaching assistants for the class sizes and no funding for PRUs or SEND provisions.

Oh, and my taxes have gone up to the highest level they’ve ever been.

The Tories have allowed the top 1% to get richer and richer. The number of billionaires in this country under this government fas risen exponentially. Their policies have always benefitted the super-rich and to hell with the rest of us.

I’ll take my chances with Labour.

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And like I said, the Tories have been crap, and I agreed - let Labour have a chance. Let’s see what they do to turn it around. I will be the first to hold my hands up if things improve under their leadership, but I sense people already making excuses for them ‘…well it’s not gonna be sorted for a loooong while, as will take time (years!?) to repair the mess…’. Nope. We will expect some improvement in the next four years. And definitely not a downward turn. And if not - out they go. I’m being fair here. Happy to let them have a go….

RosaRoja · 04/07/2024 11:59

Georgieporgypud · 04/07/2024 11:57

I have pcos so I'm a proud bearded lefty woman 😂

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All that daily tweezering I do, honestly. I need to find a more permanent solution. I’ll be on Style & Beauty soon.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/07/2024 11:58

listsandbudgets · 04/07/2024 11:56

The mysterious Hard Left.... AKA Momentum... inside the Labour party... describe themselves as Socialists... don't be fooled they haven't gone away

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There's absolutely nothing "Hard Left" about Momentum ffs

LostTheMarble · 04/07/2024 11:57

user1984778379202 · 04/07/2024 11:48

Ridiculous.

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As a parent of autistic children, it’s absolutely not ridiculous. Along with those who have suffered severe abuse in childhood, they are most likely to be groomed by gender ideology and Labour as a party backs it fully.

Georgieporgypud · 04/07/2024 11:57

RosaRoja · 04/07/2024 11:51

As a female leftie of a certain age, I took particular offence at being described “the bearded lefties”.

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I have pcos so I'm a proud bearded lefty woman 😂

Georgieporgypud · 04/07/2024 11:56

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What's funny is the utter moral outrage and panic from some people about some thing that isn't even anything to do with labour.

DontBiteTheCat · 04/07/2024 11:56

RosaRoja · 04/07/2024 11:51

As a female leftie of a certain age, I took particular offence at being described “the bearded lefties”.

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I rushed to check my face in the mirror!

Thankfully still beard free…

listsandbudgets · 04/07/2024 11:56

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 04/07/2024 11:49

The mysterious "They".....

Presumably identified by the Mail, or the Torygraph.

I swear some of the poster in this thread are living in some sort of psychosis-induced alternate reality.

"The Hard Left", supposedly hiding inside the Labour party, despite the fact there's been hardly anything you could describe as remotely left-leaning at all about the Labour Party for years.

It's almost as if people are reading right-wing shitrags and actually believing the utter tripe printed in them, but nobody could be that utterly dense and still find their way onto the internet, so it's clearly a wind-up.

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The mysterious Hard Left.... AKA Momentum... inside the Labour party... describe themselves as Socialists... don't be fooled they haven't gone away

It's time for real change

Let's build a Britain for the many.

https://peoplesmomentum.com/

RosaRoja · 04/07/2024 11:51

As a female leftie of a certain age, I took particular offence at being described “the bearded lefties”.

Georgieporgypud · 04/07/2024 11:50

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Well if they're doing it now, then it's the Tories that did it not labour.