Voting labour for the first time. Anyone else?

I do pay tax. I’m a higher rate payer so I pay a lot of tax. And most of my taxes have lined the pockets of Tory donors for the last 14 years. Billions going on track and trace, billions going on defective PPE equipment, billions going to the likes of Rees-Mogg who bet against the pound and made a fortune from brexit (whilst confining the country to generations of hardship as a result).

Starmer has repeatedly said he is not raising income tax or NI. If he goes after the super-rich with inheritance tax and CGT, good on him. If he taxes the super-rich pensions, crack on. I have no assets and no pension thanks to living through austerity with the Tories.

I’ m still waiting for you to pop down the relevant paragraphs in the Labour manifesto that you say backs up your argument about their policies, because pretty much everything you’ve said is contradicted by that manifesto,

Ahhh, so you think all of us voting Labour don’t pay tax? You implied on another thread that we probably claim benefits.

You also said we were “lucky” to have food banks and that “even people who don’t work for a living” are able to have a good quality of life under the Tories.

You are deluded, and not worth engaging with.

Ahhh, so you think all of us voting Labour don’t pay tax? You implied on another thread that we probably claim benefits.

You also said we were “lucky” to have food banks and that “even people who don’t work for a living” are able to have a good quality of life under the Tories.

You are deluded, and not worth engaging with.

Do you pay any tax?? I guess for you it is a non issue, but for the rest of us working hard. Hiking up the taxes even more is going to be a real issue, yes.

I am not sure why you are struggling so much to understand what Starmer is saying, but he has been crystal clear.

This thread appears to have been infiltrated by Tory HQ...

No. I usually vote Labour/lib Dem but am voting for party of women to register my discontent with all of the parties in protecting women's rights. If that wasn't sn option I'd spoil my ballot. I can't understand a single woman voting for labour.

My daughter managed to get excellent GCSE and A level results from a bog standard comprehensive during the last Labour government.

Do you pay any tax?? I guess for you it is a non issue, but for the rest of us working hard. Hiking up the taxes even more is going to be a real issue, yes.

I am not sure why you are struggling so much to understand what Starmer is saying, but he has been crystal clear.

I’m voting Tory 🤮 to protect my daughters from the sc*mbags who want them pregnant, barefoot and tied to the kitchen sink and to protect everyone else from a party that has proven time and time again (historically) that it cannot be trusted with pocket money let alone a country’s economy.

You say ‘people’ I don’t know anybody that thinks leaving the Eu was a good idea and the people I know, DH and I are all in positions the generate wealth for lots of people - so when you talk of ‘people’ you are not speaking for anyone in the population that is a majority so just quit it!

All your claims are stated in the Labour manifesto, are they?

I’ve read it, but didn’t spot them. Perhaps you can help - I’m sure you can point to the parts of the Labour manifesto which, for example, say that Labour is going to raise all taxes in every way possible?
I’m sure you can identify the paragraph where it says that thousands of private school pupils will be flooding the state system?

I can only assume that you have wealth on a par with Michelle Mone (maybe you are her..?) and are terrified that Labour might actually make you pay a fair proportion of taxes. No middle earner has a chance under the Tories. As shown by the last 14 years.

I suspect the people voting leave would be even higher now. After all they had a campaign of terror to try and keep us in, the country apparently would fall apart and we would all be eating gruel. It just didn't happen did it.

Everywhere in Europe is changing. People do not want to be governed by a bunch of corrupt, faceless gangsters in Brussels. Starmer is so behind the times already.

That old chestnut when you have no arguement! I have been here for 15 years pal, I am in no way a 'bot' thanks!

You won't engage, because every single thing I have said is the truth, and the one thing Labour voters don't seem to like is the truth.

Starmer has confirmed everything I have said, in their own manifesto and Starmer has covered this multiple times in the debates.

I suspect the people voting leave would be even higher now. After all they had a campaign of terror to try and keep us in, the country apparently would fall apart and we would all be eating gruel. It just didn't happen did it.

Everywhere in Europe is changing. People do not want to be governed by a bunch of corrupt, faceless gangsters in Brussels. Starmer is so behind the times already.

As at May 2024, 55% of people consider brexit was a bad idea, compared to just 31% who still support it.

I imagine they know you are a human though and require housing, food, healthcare, education etc. Which would go a fair way towards an improved quality of life whoever you are.
When a country is deteriorating there is always a focus for the "problem" so you can be more angry at that group than at the people in power who are causing the problem. In the past they have had women, Jews, Muslims. Now its transwomen. They aren't the problem. The country being ground into the dirt is the problem.

I find that hard to believe.