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Lying husband help

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Laylaleela · 03/07/2024 20:23

Hi everyone.
Apologies if this is in the wrong section, I really wasn't sure where to put it.

For many many reasons, my marriage has been struggling for a while and my husband has become more and more emotionally abusive and shady and just horrible.

He recently took my bank card from me (I use his account normally as I am a sahm) and told me he'd transfer me £500 for the month. He said he wanted to save.

In March my dad kindly offered to lend us money to buy a car as ours had been written off. The agreement was once we received the settlement from the insurance company we would pay him that amount back, then the rest over time in installments. My husband agreed to this.

We received the money from the insurance whilst he was away with work. He said he'd pay it back once he was home in about a month.

when he returned he told me I'd spent half the money (I knew I hadnt) so only transferred half to my dad. He was adamant it was me.

I haven't looked through the online baking before, I'm ashamed to say but I just thought I'd have a look.

He has been transferring hundreds of pounds to a separate account which I have no access to. He's been doing this for months but suddenly upped the amount when we had the money from the car in there.

I can't believe he did it. I can't believe he had the audacity to do it in secret, lie and blame me for it.

I'm a fool for not checking the account sooner but I just trusted him and didn't think to.

I want to leave. This is one step too far and I am done 100%.

What do I do from here?

I don't suppose I have any rights to that money now he's sneaked it off. My poor dad now is out of pocket because of this ass.

OP posts:
Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 05/07/2024 09:57

Sunnydiary · 03/07/2024 20:29

Since you are married, the fact he’s squirrelled the money away is irrelevant, it’s still a marital asset.

Take screenshots of everything before he changes password on online acct or something.

You need legal advice. Good luck.

This. Get screenshot.
Lawyer asap

Laylaleela · 05/07/2024 09:56

CowTown · 05/07/2024 09:52

That will be a different Amazon account under a different email.

He’s leading some kind of secret life behind your back. OW? Addiction? Something else?

Do you have any bank accounts with your name on them? You mention that he confiscated the debit card—was it a card with his name on it, or was your name printed on the physical card? I’m concerned about financial abuse if you don’t have your own account, or at the very least, your name on a joint account.

I do have my own account which I've kept since I was working.
The child benefit goes in there at least so I have that aswell.
The card he took is his card for his account. I've always used it freely until now.

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Neverhot · 05/07/2024 09:54

I hate to say it but have you considered another woman? I ask this as my situation a few years back was nearly identical to this. Military family, ex had been deployed for 6 months and started an affair with a 21yr old whilst away. He came back and began squirreling money. In my experience ssafa and welfare officer were not much help and all closed ranks to protect him. I'd advise you to get a solicitor who specialises in military divorces and pensions, also there is a Facebook group if you want to message me I can give you details of. It's a group of ex military wives going through divorce and it's really helpful to have that support and knowledge on your side.

Laylaleela · 05/07/2024 09:54

Worried8263839 · 05/07/2024 08:31

Can you see all the direct debits coming out of this account? As a PP has noted, with his salary and bills each month, it doesnt seem like there should be a huge amount of money to spend/transfer out, just wondering if he is in fact paying all the household bills?

Just added up all the direct debits and came to around 415.
He's only just taken the card off me this month and giving me 500.
So he also was moving much highter amounts once we had the money from the insurance company in there.
In June he transferred 1300 from into a separate account in one go
Plus hundreds into another account.

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CowTown · 05/07/2024 09:52

Laylaleela · 05/07/2024 09:39

Thanks everyone.
There's also weird stuff like I noticed loads of amazon payments had come out. Like £30/£40. Some very recently
I checked on our amazon account and there are no orders for that amount anywhere.
So it seems he has deleted the evidence (don't know if you can do that)
Or he's got another amazon account that I don't know about. We normally just share the one.
I know that isn't the main issue, it's just adding to the weird secrecy and what the hell is he up to?

That will be a different Amazon account under a different email.

He’s leading some kind of secret life behind your back. OW? Addiction? Something else?

Do you have any bank accounts with your name on them? You mention that he confiscated the debit card—was it a card with his name on it, or was your name printed on the physical card? I’m concerned about financial abuse if you don’t have your own account, or at the very least, your name on a joint account.

cestlavielife · 05/07/2024 09:47

Another woman or ?.
Get your thin gs in order

Laylaleela · 05/07/2024 09:40

phishy · 05/07/2024 06:57

This is outrageous, OP, so glad you’re leaving him.

How long have you been together? Do you own any property together?

I’d start speaking to a solicitor about a divorce asap and talk about how he is hiding money.

Sorry, I have no idea about military life so this might sound crazy, Is there anyone you can speak to about his behaviour, like his superior?

Been together 8 years. Married for 7.
No properties together.
We've always lived in military houses.

I don't know.
I'm planning on speaking to SSAFA
They support military spouses with things like this I think.

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Laylaleela · 05/07/2024 09:39

Thanks everyone.
There's also weird stuff like I noticed loads of amazon payments had come out. Like £30/£40. Some very recently
I checked on our amazon account and there are no orders for that amount anywhere.
So it seems he has deleted the evidence (don't know if you can do that)
Or he's got another amazon account that I don't know about. We normally just share the one.
I know that isn't the main issue, it's just adding to the weird secrecy and what the hell is he up to?

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Worried8263839 · 05/07/2024 08:31

Can you see all the direct debits coming out of this account? As a PP has noted, with his salary and bills each month, it doesnt seem like there should be a huge amount of money to spend/transfer out, just wondering if he is in fact paying all the household bills?

GRex · 05/07/2024 07:08

He's controlling you with these small amounts of money and being selfish, so it isn't a healthy relationship. Planning for the future means you'll need to consider how you'll manage bills by yourself and working. Do you have your own bank account? Did you ever have a job? Your dad may be able to help, and citizens advice are great at explaining the basics. Worth coming up with a plan before going to the solicitor.

RunningThroughMyHead · 05/07/2024 07:06

I would get a job asap and ask him for half the childcare. You need financial independence. Then leave.

Greentreesandbushes · 05/07/2024 07:02

Ask for a joint account, plan to return to work. Keep copies of everything

phishy · 05/07/2024 06:57

This is outrageous, OP, so glad you’re leaving him.

How long have you been together? Do you own any property together?

I’d start speaking to a solicitor about a divorce asap and talk about how he is hiding money.

Sorry, I have no idea about military life so this might sound crazy, Is there anyone you can speak to about his behaviour, like his superior?

cestlavielife · 05/07/2024 06:51

Do not confront
Do not tell him anything

Go to welfare
Get support and know your rights first
Get in a position where you can act safely

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 04/07/2024 23:28

@Laylaleela go onto his bank and in his payees list you will see the names of the banks with the accounts sort codes and account numbers. make a note of them and then go onto his account and run through all the items. you can find out how much he has squirrelled away just by doing that. you will need those numbers because he will no doubt try to deny the accounts. remember accounts go back for seven years online!!

Bedroomdilemmas113 · 04/07/2024 22:15

Military is different so ignore advice that doesn’t come with this experience.

They WILL take action and not allow you to be left short. They’ll house you (he will be made to leave) for 3 months, they’ll also pay full moving costs and there is a charity where they’ll pay your first month rent and bond too.

And there’s no scenario whatsoever that you run the risk of being left without the ability to feed yourself - they’d give you money and deduct from his wages and he wouldn’t be given an option.

Get yourself to welfare urgently.

GrumpyPanda · 04/07/2024 22:10

Send backups of your screenshots to several different emails - make a new account and possibly also mail to a friend or your dad.

sandyhappypeople · 04/07/2024 22:02

Laylaleela · 04/07/2024 21:08

Should I confront him about it or not mention anything.

Definitely stay quiet until you've spoken to a solicitor.

If he gets wind that you're checking up on him, he'll probably change passwords and cut your access completely, make sure you get hold of any piece of evidence that you can while you have access.

I know you said one account was a savings account, is the other in his name too?

StopInhalingRevels · 04/07/2024 21:24

Mumofoneandone · 04/07/2024 21:09

If you can manage to stay quiet, do. Possibly safer that way.

This.

Don't give him a heads up to start hiding anything else or inventing cover stories

Mumofoneandone · 04/07/2024 21:09

Laylaleela · 04/07/2024 21:08

Should I confront him about it or not mention anything.

If you can manage to stay quiet, do. Possibly safer that way.

Laylaleela · 04/07/2024 21:08

Should I confront him about it or not mention anything.

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cestlavielife · 04/07/2024 20:57

Get the child benefit paid into your own bank account to start with.
See a solicitor
Make plans to leave

Laylaleela · 04/07/2024 20:54

MrsWhites · 04/07/2024 20:52

Surely if you left with the card he would just declare it lost anyway or transfer any money into that account to one of the others he has.

As others have said I would go back and screen shot as far back as you can on bank statements. Even better if you can print them out, easier to highlight transfers, big purchases for himself to demonstrate financial abuse.

Also, get hold of any paperwork relating to any other assets you might have together. Take passports, any important documents etc.

Essentially the most important thing is leaving and seeing a solicitor. He’s behaving this way because he thinks he can get away with it, you need to show him that he can’t. Anything he has is half yours if you divorce, possibly even spousal maintenance and a settlement on his pension etc since you are reliant on him financially as a stay at home mum.

Thank you.

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Laylaleela · 04/07/2024 20:53

sandyhappypeople · 04/07/2024 20:42

Could he be in debt? Or his mum?

Could he have borrowed off her or lent her money which she is repaying, definitely gather as much evidence as you can. Do you have access to any emails etc?

I think the solicitor is the best starting off point, but be sure to mention financial abuse.

I have no idea. Wouldn't have thought any debts but I suppose it's possible. Not sure what though
His mum is quite well off but weird to suddenly be giving him all this money in little installments. I don't understand it at all. He's always saying we barely have enough but when I looked at the statements he'd spent around 100 on one item for himself several times just last month. Plus the transfers.
It's so selfish. He literally comments when the food shop is slightly high. That money could go on stuff for the kids. Or even a joint savings. It's all so secretive and strange

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MrsWhites · 04/07/2024 20:52

Surely if you left with the card he would just declare it lost anyway or transfer any money into that account to one of the others he has.

As others have said I would go back and screen shot as far back as you can on bank statements. Even better if you can print them out, easier to highlight transfers, big purchases for himself to demonstrate financial abuse.

Also, get hold of any paperwork relating to any other assets you might have together. Take passports, any important documents etc.

Essentially the most important thing is leaving and seeing a solicitor. He’s behaving this way because he thinks he can get away with it, you need to show him that he can’t. Anything he has is half yours if you divorce, possibly even spousal maintenance and a settlement on his pension etc since you are reliant on him financially as a stay at home mum.