To think most peoole are racist and scared of " other%."

Secondly, the number of people arriving in small boats is absolutely dwarved by the number of immigrants arriving on legal visas, for example from Hong Kong.

There were many nurses from Hong Kong on the ward when my mum was dying in hospital. They were superb. Kind, friendly, amazing skills and perfect English.

I have no issue with that.

Where are these illegals who come on small boats going to work? What skills can they offer. You can't just arrive in another country with no skills and no papers just because you want to.
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There is so much misinformation on here. Firstly, those coming in boats previously hid in lorries. This is not a new issue and it has always happened, it has just become more dangerous. Some asylum seekers will choose to come to the UK rather than stay in France or Germany because they have a family connection or they speak English. But many others will stay in mainland Europe. A functioning asylum system can process claims quickly and return those whose claims do not meet the required standard. This is what should happen but we don’t have a functioning system.

Secondly, the number of people arriving in small boats is absolutely dwarved by the number of immigrants arriving on legal visas, for example from Hong Kong.

Thirdly, many people are conflating the small boats issue with the Gaza issue, as in the concern that groups within the UK do not ‘share British values’. This may be a valid concern but it relates to long established communities, not people arriving on small boats.

Massive oversimplification and scapegoating by Farage which is what he did for Brexit. Whenever we feel poorer we blame immigrants. Stopping the small boats won’t touch the sides of reducing immigration..

People go on about letting illegal migrants work - most hardly speak English, what on earth jobs are they going to do- never mind where they are going to live - can someone tell me where these young men on small boats without passports or cv are going to work - how many in the last 5 years around 130,000 where are they and how are they contributing or not - anybody

Like, I know it's morally repugnant to buy a baby and untether it from its mother at birth but...

Wow this thread is cooked

As Jon Snow said, anything before the word but is horse shit!

Some staff at Treliske hospital Cornwall have portrayed their new influx of Nigerian hca's and cleaners as Zombies and once housed all going off sick with PTSD - is this the norm or just a bad batch

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/897408/Social-housing-Somali-refugee-family-2m-council-house-North-London-Islington/amp

You seem to be discriminating towards voters. Any facts and figures to back your opinion?

So you think you can keep adding net beneficiaries forever and the pot of money will not get any smaller?

Interesting.

What a stupid post.

Immigration is not the problem this shitty government is!

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It may mean they don't think they are 🤷🏻‍♀️

Not here they're not.
Where do you live op?

We are poorer due to illegal immigration . It's costing millions every day and yes I agree the Tories have cut budgets to the bone .

@rumnraisins

The cost of interest on the national debt is about the same as the Government spends on education.

Regardless of gets elected tomorrow there isn't any money left to do anything other than manage a slow but steady decline of the economy.

"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy"

Alexander Tytler late 1700's

This and the indentured slaves who owe gangmasters ££££££

Are you kidding?

We have a national debt that will soon become unserviceable.

Adding large numbers of people who are net beneficiaries of public money and not net contributors isn’t helping things.

Its just maths, not ‘racism’ to say this.

It gets me cross! Just because people don't want a load of illegal immigrants does not mean they are racist!

You appear to be hanging out with the wrong people

Yes they will and visas are fine, but that is separate to trafficking

It’s more the trafficking that I think will become increasingly problematic

I get that.

But unless you come via the legal routes and into a job that is paid well enough, you will most likely end up being in some way subsidised by the state.

In my experience, this is the plight of many whose qualifications from abroad aren’t recognised in the UK. They work in badly paid jobs and it might be o for them, there’s no shame in it, but it means they are getting some state money. This is why there’s so much talk about certain groups of migrants not being net contributors. Because they aren’t, not in the UK at least.

It took me years to understand.

Imagine if lots and lots of people from countries even poorer than yours started coming to your country and putting pressure on the job market and resources.

Have you read The Heart of the Cheetah by Magatte Wade?

Oh for christs sake. You must have lived a sheltered life OP. I’m pretty sure 90% of the people with an issue with migration wouldn’t care if they could get a GP appointment, join an NHS dentist, etc. etc.

We do have a benefits problem. Did you not see the thread last week about 90k wage vs 30k with same take home. Half the countries living on top ups.

And yes of course some people have issue with the way the government have been dealing with migrants. I don’t know where you live but in some areas it’s absolute chaos!

In the country a considerable portion of the large house hotels were taken over by Serco and house migrants in some kind of bizarre camp situation. I have one right next door to my sons nursery. Do I really want a thousand unoccupied, potentially war traumatised people being held in some kind of bizarre modern day pergatory right next to my son. Of course not! No one does. You can see on google the time mobile phones are active and it’s most ‘active’ as it’s still listed as a service place. It’s around 2-4am it’s busy. These are mainly idle men becoming institutionalised.

And yes on legal migration - our town is 70% cash shops, nail salons, kebab stores, vape shops with black undercounter goods and counterfeits. So really it depends where you live for that one. But yes it’s dire and our council is shit.

So yes there’s a lot to be done. It’s not racist to say that. Process these people. Crack down on crime. Sort the wages in this country and the public services. If you do all that I guarantee 90% of those complaining about migration will not care anymore.

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The question I have is do you think there’s an upper limit to the amount of trafficking that people will accept?

I can understand the feeling that with there seemingly being no limit to the number of small boats crossing the channel with migrants, immigration may be getting out of control. It’s a difficult problem and maybe innovative and radical solutions need to be considered. However, the U.K. has intervened in places like Iraq and Libya and helped upend oppressive but stabilising governments. Some of this illegal migration is just the natural consequence of destabilising those countries.

Most Nigerians who come to the U.K. will be doing so on planes, with visas in their passports to work in the care sector, the NHS or other professional roles. They won’t be able to claim benefits until, I presume, they are able to qualify for indefinite leave to remain, which is ever harder and more and more expensive.