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To worry about social services as part of EHCP application?

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Iamconfused1 · 02/07/2024 20:55

Will social services automatically become involved if the LA agree to assess or are they involved right from the start anyway?

Worried due to very old involvement after an accident and bad anxiety ever since but feel an EHCP would be helpful for secondary school for what I hear in terms of exams etc?

DD is already diagnosed ADHD / Dyslexia and on the waiting list for ASD assessment

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MyJollyFox · 04/07/2024 11:31

Im just after some advice i had social services involvement 10 years ago i am currently pregnant and i have spoken to social services as a referral was made by my midwife i was told that they have no concerns as im not in a dv relationship, i was told a family assessment would need to be done just to see what help and support i would need with baby once baby is born.social services are due to do a home visit and they need my partner to consent to a dbs check he has cautions but no convictions are social services likely to see these cautions as a concern? And how far will the dbs go back im just enquiring as im not sure how it works so if anyone could give me some advice would really appreciate it

Iamawomenphenominally · 03/07/2024 17:25

If social workers were involved, they would be from the disabled child team not the safeguarding team. They'd be coming to assess if you or child need any support. Their "angle" and basis of being involved would be to meet any needs raising from your child's disability, not from an initial safeguarding concern.

Perhaps some families do then become on a safeguarding concern radar but that's not why they initially enter the situation for children with an EHCP.

My eldest has an EHCP and has always had a disability social worker. I sought one out! 🙂 She came to every EHCP annual review, wrote letters for grant applications for sensory equipment, asked a panel for him to be granted direct payments for a P.A. a free bus pass and rail card application she helped with, etc etc.

It must be scary if you have had bad experiences in the past though. But I just wanted to reassure you that my experience of social services in this process was a positive one.

BrumToTheRescue · 03/07/2024 17:23

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It does mean social care has to be approached for advice and information. It doesn’t always mean a full assessment is needed but social care should be approached for advice and information.

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Social care is included in the legislation.

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BrumToTheRescue · 03/07/2024 17:18

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I am saying exactly what I have posted twice now - during an EHCNA the LA must legally seek advice and information in relation to social care as per regulation 6(1)(e) of the SEN Regs 2014.

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The law underpinning EHCNAs. As I posted, during an EHCNA the LA must legally seek advice and information in relation to social care as per regulation 6(1)(e) of the SEN Regs 2014.

Unfortunately, LAs often act unlawfully.

FloofyBird · 03/07/2024 17:14

No. They'll avoid you like the plague in case they have to provide any support!

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BrumToTheRescue · 03/07/2024 17:10

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Not necessarily. The law applies to all EHCNAs, not just those with previous contact, despite what many LAs believe.

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Sprogonthetyne · 03/07/2024 16:10

When DS had his assessment someone from social services rang me to ask if there was anything under their remit that I needed. I said everything way fine outside of school and the EHCP was solely for SEN, and that was it. They wrote about one line for the assesment saying that they had no contact and nothing to add.

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Iamconfused1 · 03/07/2024 15:48

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Over 10 years ago

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FluffyJellyCat · 03/07/2024 15:34

Depends on where you live as well. My son has a named disability sw and my LA refuse to add this info to his ehcp because they would refuse even if they spelt the kids name wrong. They waste hours , thousands saying im wrong.

BrumToTheRescue · 03/07/2024 15:31

During an EHCNA the LA must legally seek advice and information in relation to social care as per regulation 6(1)(e) of the SEN Regs 2014. This applies whether there is current involvement, historic involvement or DC is not known to the service. However, LAs often act unlawfully by not seeking this advice and information or, where relevant, by saying “not known to the service” or where there has been previous involvement by stating “no current involvement”.

Advice and information sought during an EHCNA is about supporting DC and the wider family. It will be different to your previous involvement.

mitogoshi · 03/07/2024 15:27

They are only involved when they are already involved and in complex cases eg they were involved in getting a residential placement.

Lincoln24 · 03/07/2024 15:24

There are different types of child social work. You will have been involved with Child Protection previously. They investigate whether a child is being harmed. The social workers involved in EHCPs are Children With Disability social workers. They support families with disabled children to access services, get respite in place, access education and so on.

Of course there can be overlap between the two, but Child Protection aren't routinely involved with EHCPs. Your paperwork is referring to the disability social workers.

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cabbageking · 03/07/2024 15:18

Some EHCP children have a SW, CIN, CP. LAC like any other child might have and some do not
Depends on the need.
Sometimes it opens the gate for additional optional family support and opportunities in your area or more widely. Again it depends on what the LA can offer.