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To go abroad for one day?

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Teacherbee85 · 02/07/2024 19:32

I'm reading about people who do 'extreme day trips' from the UK to abroad.

I've been looking into it and I've found flights that go to various European cities - leaving first thing in the morning and coming back late at night.

I'm so tempted to say fuck it and just book a solo trip.

Any thoughts?

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TakeOnFlea · 06/07/2024 14:41

"You wouldn’t spunk 10% of your annual income on a day out, why would you spunk 10% of your carbon footprint?"

That's a lot of spunk 🤢

Dweetfidilove · 06/07/2024 14:31

Ah, the good old days when we were younger, energetic and worked for an airline ☺️.
Go for it!

Damnloginpopup · 06/07/2024 14:28

Lifestooshort71 · 04/07/2024 19:31

You've no idea how I 'spend' the rest of my carbon footprint so I'm not going to lose sleep over causing a bad taste in your mouth ....

Is the bad taste in the mouth from the carbon or the spunking?

Damnloginpopup · 06/07/2024 14:27

4fingerKitKat · 06/07/2024 08:00

The more times you go, the lower the percentage of each

That’s a joke, right? I hope it’s a joke.

I do get it - I love travelling. But if you’re that interested in your destination then surely you should stay longer, not try to rush in and out in a day? You’d be getting more out of it and contributing more to the local economy. Savouring fewer, longer, trips is a better travel experience and more sustainable.

Of course it's a joke 😁

Lesina · 06/07/2024 14:26

Yep do it. I’m planning Venice for the day :)

Damnloginpopup · 06/07/2024 14:24

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 13:34

Disgusting attitude

Would you like her to (pretend on the internet to) plant a fucking tree or something?

NamechangersRuleHere · 06/07/2024 08:16

I used to do this back in my 20s when I lived near Cambridge. Had some great trips. Airport travel seemed less complicated/quicker than it is 30 years on though.

Pichee · 06/07/2024 08:14

Honestly I’ll get a lot of heat for saying this but I do this regularly. My husband is a pilot and if he has a layover in a Western European city I’ll often go for less than 24 hours. A nice dinner and a walk around in the morning with a coffee/pastry is about as much as I can manage on most trips

4fingerKitKat · 06/07/2024 08:00

Damnloginpopup · 06/07/2024 07:39

...not one of which appeals to.me in the slightest. I'd rather have go and meander somewhere, eating, seeing, smelling and hearing difference.

The more times you go, the lower the percentage of each.

The more times you go, the lower the percentage of each

That’s a joke, right? I hope it’s a joke.

I do get it - I love travelling. But if you’re that interested in your destination then surely you should stay longer, not try to rush in and out in a day? You’d be getting more out of it and contributing more to the local economy. Savouring fewer, longer, trips is a better travel experience and more sustainable.

Lifestooshort71 · 06/07/2024 07:51

4fingerKitKat · 05/07/2024 11:12

I’d have more respect for someone saying “I simply don’t care about climate change” than those trying to convince themselves that they can justify flying across Europe for a one day jaunt. “But other people are worse!” “But I think about the environment in other ways!”. Just own it: being able to spend 8 hours in the sun for a bargain price is more important to you than climate change. That’s selfish but at least it’s morally consistent.

I can manage without your respect and accept our opinions on this differ.

Damnloginpopup · 06/07/2024 07:39

4fingerKitKat · 03/07/2024 17:33

A single shorthaul round trip adds about 10% to the average person’s annual carbon footprint - that’s not trivial.

If you’ve got £100 burning a hole in your pocket and a day to spare, almost anything is better than taking an extreme day trip. Visit a spa, go tee a show, have afternoon tea at a fancy hotel.

...not one of which appeals to.me in the slightest. I'd rather have go and meander somewhere, eating, seeing, smelling and hearing difference.

The more times you go, the lower the percentage of each.

4fingerKitKat · 05/07/2024 11:12

Lifestooshort71 · 04/07/2024 19:31

You've no idea how I 'spend' the rest of my carbon footprint so I'm not going to lose sleep over causing a bad taste in your mouth ....

I’d have more respect for someone saying “I simply don’t care about climate change” than those trying to convince themselves that they can justify flying across Europe for a one day jaunt. “But other people are worse!” “But I think about the environment in other ways!”. Just own it: being able to spend 8 hours in the sun for a bargain price is more important to you than climate change. That’s selfish but at least it’s morally consistent.

Lifestooshort71 · 04/07/2024 19:31

4fingerKitKat · 04/07/2024 16:44

I’ve not done the maths but I think you could probably spend the entire year carefully reducing your carbon footprint by minimising food miles, eliminating unnecessary tat from your purchases and then spunk the entire lot up the wall for the sake of a one day jaunt. You’d have to buy a LOT of shit from Temu to rack up the carbon footprint of a flight.

The thing that I hate about the extreme day trips phenomenon is that it’s just so gratuitous - people seem to be doing them almost as a bit of challenge and because it’s enticingly cheap, rather than for any good reason.

Someone mentioned that they might be doing one day trips to visit their DD, others mentioned a special concert or to visit somewhere they had always wanted to see. I don’t really have a problem with that. But doing it just for bragging rights or as a bit of a minor novelty leaves a bad taste in my mouth - “I went to Spain for the day and it only cost me £40!”.

You wouldn’t spunk 10% of your annual income on a day out, why would you spunk 10% of your carbon footprint?

You've no idea how I 'spend' the rest of my carbon footprint so I'm not going to lose sleep over causing a bad taste in your mouth ....

4fingerKitKat · 04/07/2024 16:44

Lifestooshort71 · 04/07/2024 07:29

....and make sure you don't buy green beans from Kenya or cheap Chinese shit from Amazon or tat from Temu (shipped directly from China)....

I’ve not done the maths but I think you could probably spend the entire year carefully reducing your carbon footprint by minimising food miles, eliminating unnecessary tat from your purchases and then spunk the entire lot up the wall for the sake of a one day jaunt. You’d have to buy a LOT of shit from Temu to rack up the carbon footprint of a flight.

The thing that I hate about the extreme day trips phenomenon is that it’s just so gratuitous - people seem to be doing them almost as a bit of challenge and because it’s enticingly cheap, rather than for any good reason.

Someone mentioned that they might be doing one day trips to visit their DD, others mentioned a special concert or to visit somewhere they had always wanted to see. I don’t really have a problem with that. But doing it just for bragging rights or as a bit of a minor novelty leaves a bad taste in my mouth - “I went to Spain for the day and it only cost me £40!”.

You wouldn’t spunk 10% of your annual income on a day out, why would you spunk 10% of your carbon footprint?

stressedespresso · 04/07/2024 14:19

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 06:23

And how will you be off-setting the shit carbonfootprint?

I just wouldn’t give a shit! Simple.

Teacherbee85 · 04/07/2024 14:00

Natsku · 04/07/2024 13:43

I did a day abroad but I went by ferry so had the nights either side on the ferry, which meant I got a nice sleep and a good buffet breakfast, enjoyed the day abroad (Sweden in my case) then back on the ferry in the evening for another buffet, and a good sleep, and breakfast again. Ferry was cheaper than staying in a hotel.

Aw that sounds really good!

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Natsku · 04/07/2024 13:43

I did a day abroad but I went by ferry so had the nights either side on the ferry, which meant I got a nice sleep and a good buffet breakfast, enjoyed the day abroad (Sweden in my case) then back on the ferry in the evening for another buffet, and a good sleep, and breakfast again. Ferry was cheaper than staying in a hotel.

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 13:34

Teacherbee85 · 04/07/2024 10:05

No plans to 🤷‍♀️

Disgusting attitude

Teacherbee85 · 04/07/2024 10:05

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 06:23

And how will you be off-setting the shit carbonfootprint?

No plans to 🤷‍♀️

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JennyBeanR · 04/07/2024 09:43

Lifestooshort71 · 04/07/2024 07:29

....and make sure you don't buy green beans from Kenya or cheap Chinese shit from Amazon or tat from Temu (shipped directly from China)....

Exactly.
The largest contribution to climate change are the US and China, by massive margins. But yet some keep trying to guilt trip people in the UK (contributing less than 1% global emissions) from travelling (2% global emissions). Instead of going after large corporations, international governments, reducing beef consumption, and all the actual large CO2 contributers. But I guess appearing self righteous on social media is more important. Side note: I hope they aren't using Google considering their massive footprint due to AI!

Lifestooshort71 · 04/07/2024 07:29

4fingerKitKat · 03/07/2024 17:33

A single shorthaul round trip adds about 10% to the average person’s annual carbon footprint - that’s not trivial.

If you’ve got £100 burning a hole in your pocket and a day to spare, almost anything is better than taking an extreme day trip. Visit a spa, go tee a show, have afternoon tea at a fancy hotel.

....and make sure you don't buy green beans from Kenya or cheap Chinese shit from Amazon or tat from Temu (shipped directly from China)....

AgentJohnson · 04/07/2024 06:36

I have done Amsterdam - London - Amsterdam and the only way it really worked for me is because I was a Londoner living in Amsterdam, thus I knew London really well. It would have been very stressful and time consuming acclimatising and getting around a city i didn’t know. The flight time was 40 minutes and London City Airport was my airport of choice.

Sondheimisademigod · 04/07/2024 06:23

Teacherbee85 · 03/07/2024 18:29

I just joined that thank you!

And how will you be off-setting the shit carbonfootprint?

Teacherbee85 · 03/07/2024 18:29

rookiemere · 03/07/2024 16:48

@Teacherbee85 you may be in the group already but there is Extreme Day Trips from Scotland on FB with lots of suggestions and reports from people who have done it.

I just joined that thank you!

OP posts:
4fingerKitKat · 03/07/2024 17:33

A single shorthaul round trip adds about 10% to the average person’s annual carbon footprint - that’s not trivial.

If you’ve got £100 burning a hole in your pocket and a day to spare, almost anything is better than taking an extreme day trip. Visit a spa, go tee a show, have afternoon tea at a fancy hotel.