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Reasons not to vote Tory

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Aladdinzane · 02/07/2024 16:16

As the Tory faithful here appear to be terrified of a Labour government ( judging by all the threads) lets remind ourselves for reasons not to vote Tory.

  1. Jacob Rees-Mogg: The Haunted Pencil, my most hoped for Portillo moment.
  2. Liz Truss: For being completely unhinged.
  3. 14 years of public sector decline.

Any more?

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jannier · 04/07/2024 16:25

Sending the elderly back to care homes to die is pretty high up.
PPE contracts
The lockdown doesn't apply to us.
Lies
Rowanda
Hungry children
Overworked underpaid NHS staff using food banks

Clavinova · 04/07/2024 10:46

US2gether · 03/07/2024 15:34

BBC news latest

'Even Conservative backing newspapers, The Sun and The Times say vote Labour' 🐀 leaving a sinking ship springs to mind.

Only very die hard Tories seem to defend the indefensible now.

The Times has remained neutral as far as I can see - the Sunday Times has backed Labour.

UnstablefromDunstable · 04/07/2024 00:18

A general reason: they are almost always inclined to look out for the people who least need anyone to look out for them and to be disconnected from those in most need.
A specific 2024 reason: every now and again a party has been in too long and it is just time to "give the other lot a go". It was true in 1997 and probably also in 2010. If it's not time again now after all the shambolic and dishonourable things that have happened in the last few years, we might as well give up on elections and say we want a one party state.

cupcaske123 · 03/07/2024 19:29

Suella Braverman. The woman is nothing short of a far-right extremist and she fucking terrifies me.

Completely agree. Horrific individual.

neverbeenskiing · 03/07/2024 19:28

Their racist foreign policy. The Rwanda plan is not only morally repugnant, it is completely unworkable and not even remotely cost effective according to the gorvernments own figures. But in a mind-boggling mix of arrogance and stupidity they refuse to let it drop.

Their wanton destruction of our public services.

Our rivers are full of actual shit.

Their repeated attempts to demonise the people who work in those services when they have the audacity to complain about said wanton destruction.

Partygate. Not just the parties themselves but the subsequent cover up, the fact that they lied and lied and kept on lying even when it was obvious they'd been well and truly rumbled because they take the electorate for fools.

Rishi Sunak. The man who was caught on camera boasting about deliberately taking funding away from socioeconomically deprived areas and giving it to already affluent communities. He is so out of touch with the lives of the people he claims to represent, with his fresh out the box Adidas sambas and pretending to put petrol in someone else's car, this is a man who asked a homeless man at a fucking soup kitchen if he was "in business". The man who promised to restore integrity to politics and then gave Suella Braverman her job back after she left in disgrace having breached the ministerial code.

Suella Braverman. The woman is nothing short of a far-right extremist and she fucking terrifies me.

RobinStrike · 03/07/2024 18:46

@MrsSkylerWhite Gary Neville owns loads of property in Manchester. In 2016 during the winter he housed homeless people for 3 months.
During Covid he housed NHS staff. More compassion than the govt.

Reasons not to vote Tory
randomchap · 03/07/2024 17:52

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/07/2024 15:38

I don’t know who Gary Neville is but I imagine there are millions of him/her with just those views out there. Decent people who are so, so tired of all of this chaos.

He's a former footballer, played for Man Utd and England.

His wealth will insulate him from the majority of the damage the Tories have done. But he's empathetic and can understand how they have damaged the majority of people's lives

MrsSkylerWhite · 03/07/2024 15:38

I don’t know who Gary Neville is but I imagine there are millions of him/her with just those views out there. Decent people who are so, so tired of all of this chaos.

US2gether · 03/07/2024 15:34

BBC news latest

'Even Conservative backing newspapers, The Sun and The Times say vote Labour' 🐀 leaving a sinking ship springs to mind.

Only very die hard Tories seem to defend the indefensible now.

RobinStrike · 03/07/2024 15:30

61% of working age adults living in poverty live in a household where at least one adult is working. 11% of all workers live in a household in poverty. In work poverty has never been such a problem as now

Aladdinzane · 03/07/2024 13:10

Looking forward to Friday anyone?

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cardibach · 03/07/2024 13:08

andymary · 03/07/2024 11:15

Another useless, nonsense thread.

"14 years of public sector decline." - Have you even stopped and thought why that would be? What's been happening over the last few years? What's the reason for it?
Once you figure that out, you can vote properly.

The decline is over 14 years. It began straight away with Osborne and Cameron’s savage cuts. The last few years have seen Brexit, law breaking and complete incompetence that have made it worse. Yes, looking at them will conform what the 10 before already tell you - don’t vote Tory.
Oh, you mean the pandemic and Ukraine? Pretty minor in the grand scheme of the decline.

TammyOne · 03/07/2024 11:39

Brexit.
HS2.
PPE corruption.
Contaminated water.
NHS dentistry (RIP)
Child poverty.
Michael Goves’s destruction of good rounded education for state school children.
Dominic Cummings.
Liz Truss.
Effective legalisation of rape.
Putting men in women’s prisons.
Boarded up high streets.
Universal credit which traps folk in poverty.
Boris and ALL his lies.
All the deaths and suffering that occurred due to a broken NHS, including the sheer indignity of it all.
Shortage of GPs.
Libraries (RIP).
Stamp duty stupidness in 2020 that pushed house prices up and they have never come down.
Mortgage interest rates tripling in a day.
Brexit again.

I think Angela Raynor is a gold plated idiot and Starmer is a coward BUT I don’t think the Labour lot are as downright self serving, morally bankrupt and revolting as this current bunch of festering turds we have been calling a government.
I’ll be at the polls when they open and I can’t fucking wait.

MNisHarshSometimes · 03/07/2024 11:38

Read this ...

Reasons not to vote Tory
Wedoourbest · 03/07/2024 11:27

cupcaske123 · 03/07/2024 11:10

Suella Braverman and her abject cruelty. Describing 'swarms' of migrants, saying homelessness was a 'lifestyle choice ' and being obsessed with sending people to Rwanda alongside her various laws.

Boris Johnson saying 'let the bodies pile high'. Letting COVID run rampage in old people's homes, partying while people couldn't go to funerals, hiding in a fridge to avoid journalists, a constant stream of lies, giving millions in contracts to his friends, wasting billions on PPE. His utter contempt for the people of this country.

Liz Truss adding to a cost of living crisis with her ridiculous budget and adding hundreds to mortgages.

Theresa May and Windrush. Ripping people out of their homes and lives, denying them medical care and wrongly deporting them where some of them died. Grenfell. Child poverty and the housing crisis.The introduction of Universal Credit which made people a lot poorer and had a five week wait.

Millions using foodbanks and millions of children living in absolute poverty. A footballer getting the government to do a U turn on feeding hungry children.

The disproportionate effect of austerity on women through cuts in benefits, lack of support for disabled children, lack of support for carers, lack of funding for domestic abuse organisations and refuges, lack of mental health services, lack of maternity care, cuts to the public sector, nearly non existent rape convictions.

Introducing Trans ideology into schools and the public sector. Sexual predators into hospital wards and prisons.

The NHS erasing the word 'woman' from their website and literature. Women described as 'uterus havers' and birthing people instead of mothers. Chest feeding. Cervix havers.

Billions spent on HS2.

Rwanda scheme.

People dying waiting for essential treatment and diagnosis. People dying waiting for ambulances. People dying on trollies in corridors.

The rotten state of children's teeth as there's no access to a dentist.

Sewage in our rivers and waterways.

The billions in profits made by utility companies and a cost of living crisis where people had to choose between heating and eating.

Crumbling schools and the closure of youth clubs, community centres and sure start.

The massive rise in knife crime.

Tens of thousands of cuts to the police force.

Cuts to prison staff, overcrowded prisons, early release of prisoners due to lack of space.

Mental health crisis with no access to services.

Brexit and the divisive toxic rhetoric that accompanied it. The lies about the NHS. The racist poster. The devastating consequences and the opportunities it deprived people of.

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Brilliant! I wish my memory was as good as yours . Shocking isn’t it how fucking corrupt and immoral this bunch of twats have been!

US2gether · 03/07/2024 11:23

cupcaske123 · 03/07/2024 11:10

Suella Braverman and her abject cruelty. Describing 'swarms' of migrants, saying homelessness was a 'lifestyle choice ' and being obsessed with sending people to Rwanda alongside her various laws.

Boris Johnson saying 'let the bodies pile high'. Letting COVID run rampage in old people's homes, partying while people couldn't go to funerals, hiding in a fridge to avoid journalists, a constant stream of lies, giving millions in contracts to his friends, wasting billions on PPE. His utter contempt for the people of this country.

Liz Truss adding to a cost of living crisis with her ridiculous budget and adding hundreds to mortgages.

Theresa May and Windrush. Ripping people out of their homes and lives, denying them medical care and wrongly deporting them where some of them died. Grenfell. Child poverty and the housing crisis.The introduction of Universal Credit which made people a lot poorer and had a five week wait.

Millions using foodbanks and millions of children living in absolute poverty. A footballer getting the government to do a U turn on feeding hungry children.

The disproportionate effect of austerity on women through cuts in benefits, lack of support for disabled children, lack of support for carers, lack of funding for domestic abuse organisations and refuges, lack of mental health services, lack of maternity care, cuts to the public sector, nearly non existent rape convictions.

Introducing Trans ideology into schools and the public sector. Sexual predators into hospital wards and prisons.

The NHS erasing the word 'woman' from their website and literature. Women described as 'uterus havers' and birthing people instead of mothers. Chest feeding. Cervix havers.

Billions spent on HS2.

Rwanda scheme.

People dying waiting for essential treatment and diagnosis. People dying waiting for ambulances. People dying on trollies in corridors.

The rotten state of children's teeth as there's no access to a dentist.

Sewage in our rivers and waterways.

The billions in profits made by utility companies and a cost of living crisis where people had to choose between heating and eating.

Crumbling schools and the closure of youth clubs, community centres and sure start.

The massive rise in knife crime.

Tens of thousands of cuts to the police force.

Cuts to prison staff, overcrowded prisons, early release of prisoners due to lack of space.

Mental health crisis with no access to services.

Brexit and the divisive toxic rhetoric that accompanied it. The lies about the NHS. The racist poster. The devastating consequences and the opportunities it deprived people of.

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When you put it like that, why do people want more of this? Crazy to give a vote to this lot. I suppose some will say the usual all are the same, they aren't.

Wedoourbest · 03/07/2024 11:19

BobbyBiscuits · 02/07/2024 16:23

COVID. PPE contracts, Boris Johnson. Post office scandal. The whole fucking lot of them being smug lying tossers from Hades.
They want to close down the NHS and wish all poor and sick people would simply disappear.
They don't want people with no money to get richer.
They don't think the rules apply to them.
They pretend to care about women when they treat us like third class citizens who are auxiliary to their male counterparts goals in life.
Rishi Sunak doesn't know how to use a SHOP.

Yep . Well summed up !

Moonmelodies · 03/07/2024 11:16

Don't forget that pandemic we had under the Tories.

andymary · 03/07/2024 11:15

Another useless, nonsense thread.

"14 years of public sector decline." - Have you even stopped and thought why that would be? What's been happening over the last few years? What's the reason for it?
Once you figure that out, you can vote properly.

Glamorous24 · 03/07/2024 11:11

So those who are scared that their grandchildren will
end up paying more taxes in future under a Labour government (because let’s face it that is the only reason why anyone still votes Tory isn’t it?)

I take it that whatever we say about lack of public services, teachers, health care, crime prevention, mental health support - the list goes on

all of the things that a society needs to function and not become a third world country where the poor are left to starve to death (oh look, we’re already half way there)

none of these things would possibly move you to see why a right wing govmt could be detrimental?

Not to mention the fact that if you’re unlucky enough to work in the Arts sector in this country (because I know it will come as a shock to the high earning MN massive, but not all of us university educated folk went into banking or finance)

then your job, salary and funding have all gone down the toilet over the last few years of Tory rule and especially since Brexit.

but hey, at least we still haven’t had to pay more tax.

cupcaske123 · 03/07/2024 11:10

Suella Braverman and her abject cruelty. Describing 'swarms' of migrants, saying homelessness was a 'lifestyle choice ' and being obsessed with sending people to Rwanda alongside her various laws.

Boris Johnson saying 'let the bodies pile high'. Letting COVID run rampage in old people's homes, partying while people couldn't go to funerals, hiding in a fridge to avoid journalists, a constant stream of lies, giving millions in contracts to his friends, wasting billions on PPE. His utter contempt for the people of this country.

Liz Truss adding to a cost of living crisis with her ridiculous budget and adding hundreds to mortgages.

Theresa May and Windrush. Ripping people out of their homes and lives, denying them medical care and wrongly deporting them where some of them died. Grenfell. Child poverty and the housing crisis.The introduction of Universal Credit which made people a lot poorer and had a five week wait.

Millions using foodbanks and millions of children living in absolute poverty. A footballer getting the government to do a U turn on feeding hungry children.

The disproportionate effect of austerity on women through cuts in benefits, lack of support for disabled children, lack of support for carers, lack of funding for domestic abuse organisations and refuges, lack of mental health services, lack of maternity care, cuts to the public sector, nearly non existent rape convictions.

Introducing Trans ideology into schools and the public sector. Sexual predators into hospital wards and prisons.

The NHS erasing the word 'woman' from their website and literature. Women described as 'uterus havers' and birthing people instead of mothers. Chest feeding. Cervix havers.

Billions spent on HS2.

Rwanda scheme.

People dying waiting for essential treatment and diagnosis. People dying waiting for ambulances. People dying on trollies in corridors.

The rotten state of children's teeth as there's no access to a dentist.

Sewage in our rivers and waterways.

The billions in profits made by utility companies and a cost of living crisis where people had to choose between heating and eating.

Crumbling schools and the closure of youth clubs, community centres and sure start.

The massive rise in knife crime.

Tens of thousands of cuts to the police force.

Cuts to prison staff, overcrowded prisons, early release of prisoners due to lack of space.

Mental health crisis with no access to services.

Brexit and the divisive toxic rhetoric that accompanied it. The lies about the NHS. The racist poster. The devastating consequences and the opportunities it deprived people of.

EmmaOvary · 03/07/2024 11:05

MathsandStats · 03/07/2024 00:48

So much sewage in our local river it has signs everywhere telling people to keep away and what used to be a lovely chalk stream teeming with wildlife has now been pronounced dead.

Our Tory MP voted to allow them to do it. I have on record all her justifications. Now she's putting leaflets through our door saying "fighting against sewage in our rivers".

Utter hypocrite.

The Tories. Force feeding you shit then offering to help you throw it up again.

PadstowGirl · 03/07/2024 11:05

Some*