The "terrifying threat from Labour"

They've actually removed protections.

I've been horrified at the complete absence of all the services that used to be available to confirm from birth to five (and beyond). I've mentioned before, that our local clinic is empty and boarded up. It used to provide a paediatric dentist, a speech therapist, a chiropodist (who my little daughter saw for a casting and an insole to minimise her hereditary bunions), an NHS physiotherapist, and a large team of health visitors and midwives. As well as hosting ante natal and post natal classes. And probably more that I didn't use.

It's not that those services have just moved somewhere else. They just don't exist. There are still health visitors, but a fraction of the number. But that's it. My daughters ante and post natal support was almost non existent. And my granddaughters delay not picked up because checks were missed, or done several months too late.

My little granddaughters have had none of those services. Sadly, severe buck teeth run in our family. Both my daughters had free orthodontic treatment. Now my grandkids can't even get a normal dental check up.

Health and education are my worries, so no, I'm not going to vote based on a narrow single issue, especially as I don't believe it would be addressed.

Starmer will learn pretty quickly that the mechanisms that actually power the country don't have much time for 'but this grown man wants to be in the Ladies', please BeKind'.

I hope you're right OP but I think you are probably over optimistic. Most people are moderately gender critical if they ever consider it, but many of the people influential in our institutions are not.

I think Maya Forstater said before her tribunal that she was sure the "grown ups" would come in and sort the mess out, until she had the horrible realisation that she was the grown ups.

Why would I care about private schools since we could never afford to use one even if we wanted to.

Which then makes you wonder how really Fked this country is if Nigel Farage is looking like a better leader than the current encumbents of the 2 main parties
No worries then, @Yalta , because he’s not. The only circumstance in which I’d vote Tory is to keep Farage or one o& his employees out. Because even more Rishi and Co is preferable.

But if you're not voting Labour, there is only Conservatives and Reform?!😱 🤮

Or help women, or children in any way, whatsoever.

No. Nothing.

People have been living on a knife edge for thousands of years what ever government was in power
I do think messing with that and tipping people into debt for the good of public services is not going to end well

I actually think that if there wasn’t the campaign to get rid of Boris we wouldn’t be in such dire circumstances now (A case of be careful of what you wish for) We wouldn’t have had a prime minister with his hands tied trying to defend himself he would have been getting on with running the country. The whole Covid restrictions were ridiculous.
We wouldn’t have had Liz Truss and the budget which brought so much damage
And we wouldn’t have ended up with a PM who made a good chancellor but was completely out of touch with reality and wasn’t fit to run a country.

Personally I am not voting. I think policies and manifestos aside I think Starmer isn’t a strong enough personality to keep control of those in the Labour Party who have been waiting and hiding their own agenda for when Labour are in power and to stop any of the infighting I see happening
I think no matter how much of a landslide there is in Labours favour I think it will be wasted

The Conservatives are led by someone who not only has no idea of the reality of peoples lives but also has no interest in winning (he has already bought his next home and it isn’t in the UK)

That leaves Reform’s leader Farage
Here is someone who you feel knows what he wants the country to look like, whether you agree or disagree with him and unlike Starmer he I feel is someone who couldn’t give a flying f**k about trying to keep everyone happy. He also has some understanding of what people are going through at the moment

Which then makes you wonder how really F**ked this country is if Nigel Farage is looking like a better leader than the current encumbents of the 2 main parties

As a result of these international laws and treaties the UK courts are constantly being challenged when we try to deport convicted foreign criminals and as a result many remain either free in the community if they’ve completed their sentences or if not they continue to be are kept in prison at the cost of the taxpayer

No, they aren’t. There’s no free alternative. Totally different. Private universities (of which there are a few) maybe as there is a much cheaper alternative which is supported by the state.
Edit: people worrying about nuts things are usually doing it because nutters have suggested it. The Tories are scaremongering about all these things and you are buying into it (assuming you aren’t. Shill/bot).

I can’t name one thing.

both women and (good) men are waking up to and will have more luck fighting for under Labour than they did under the last government.

Yes @BigWordAtlas I do agree to some extent, that actually some of the more extreme madness has lit up the issue. Labour could be the petrol on the fire now.

But the thing they both have in common is that they are now both outside state education and privately funded by the individual so if its acceptable to add VAT onto 1, why not the other? Especially as Labour have already mentioned the need for uni fees to increase. See also private tutors.

You might think it's a nuts thing to worry about, but people worry about all sorts of things whether those things are nuts or not and it's a major concern of mine.

I have to say that I agree.

@TempestTost yes and unfortunately there is already a strangle hold in nealry every area of life including the NHS, education and the police, councils!

I don't see how op, in Rotherham, no one felt they could mention the abuse at all under labour for fear of being called racist.
Things still are not great now but that dam broke almost as soon as Labour went and it all came out..

Ithink women here are worried because once you get laws passed that enshire gender ideology , it becomes extremely difficult to get rid of them, and they actually prevent people from doing what is necessary to get rid of them.

Anyone that doesn't bow down at the feet of Kier seems to be labelled a Tory bot, A lot of Labour supporters are very unoriginal but at least they are consistent

Maybe, just maybe, some people are fucking scared that he'll dismantle the rights that have been hard won over the years by women in order to appease the TRA/MRAs and we'll never get them back?

@PowerTulle it's so embedded into our fabric of Society it needs teams of specialists to un pick it.
Keep the obvious good stuff and bin the rest.
Stonewall reach is far and wide. They have even got into women's refuges asking them to take trans men.
It's mind boggling.

Absolutely this and the massive mess Labour have made over getting involved in gender ideology.

In fairness that’s a nuts and Tory shill type worry though so I can see why people might conclude that’s what you are. University has no free alternative people could choose. It’s quantifiably different from a private school.

Raising the tax threshold has really helped me, I was in nmw and I just above but slightly raising my tax and ni has been good.
Not amazing, and I still pay some but it's definitely helped a little.

At this precise moment in time, I'm just about balanced.
Do I think keir will help me? Perhaps he's said so and I've missed it?

FFS. He’s Schrödinger’s Starmer. Simultaneously rinsing the rich and transferring all money and power to them.

I'm not one to call ism at every possible slight but this, @HarrietPierce, I agree that's what it is and it's a particularly seedy nudge nudge, wink wink, to certain voters. Intentional and disgraceful.

We pay £800-900 more a month in tax because we live in Scotland. We could easily move to England, with the advantage that it’s low hassle as it’s still in the UK and we have no particular family ties, but we don’t move and neither do a surprising number of others as we cannot be bothered.

if Labour put 20% on the top rate of income tax people will move. But if they just added a percent or two people wouldn’t.