The "terrifying threat from Labour"

delighted to pay more

I wonder how many will be delighted on here, there does seem to be a few saying they will be. We’ll see when taxes go up what people say

If people can get better healthcare, schools etc, most would be delighted to pay a bit more.

delighted to pay more

I wonder how many will be delighted on here, there does seem to be a few saying they will be. We’ll see when taxes go up what people say

Nope, the 'higher earners' I know (including me) would be delighted to pay more if it means better services. What use is a healthy bank balance when friends and family have no access to the NHS services they need, bigger class sizes with fewer teachers and resources, crumbling classrooms, police who only turn up in the most extreme cases etc? Not everyone earning above £50k has such a narrow minded, self centred view of the world. And if you look at independent research on how Labour and Tories have fared in terms of the economy, it's actually Labour who come out on top, despite the popular Tory narrative of "you can't trust Labour with the economy". So perhaps socialism isn't all that bad after all, providing it is rooted in a belief of a strong economy.

I am voting Labour because their policies will bring about a strong economy.

I am voting Labour because their policies will bring about a strong economy.

I think anyone earning over £50k will be pretty pissed off with the prospect of a Labour government. They make it clear time and time again that 'rich' people are their target, and by rich they simply mean high tax earners.

For me it will be the lack of incentive to do well because of the tax burden that is terrifying - when will people realise that socialism doesn't work?!

Yeah. One of the latest Tory tweets actually opens with ‘this is terrifying.’ Which seemed a bit on the nose given the thread title.

Youre right though it’s all the same, just finding multiple little niches to scare people with and then exploit those fears. There are loads on this thread and it makes me so angry

Yes, very much this, but this is where most politics is at the moment, hence the growth of populism.

Get everyone terrified of everything, and the whole population is much easier to control.

There's a lot of very stupid scaremongering and out and out lies here. Desperate is indeed the word.

None atm they aren’t in power

There are just over 200 Labour MPs. Which of them are currently trying to pull Starmer's strings and in what way have they succeeded so far?

No some of the hard left Corbynistas are still there having within the Labour Party. Why do you think Angela Rayner is his deputy but to keep him on the straight and narrow and unable to articulate straightforwardly what is a woman and there are others lurking in the background ready to pull his strings

@Mycatsmudge
I still remember the winter of discontent in 1978 when Labour were in power and over powerful unions and the far left held the country to ransom and chaos ensued.

That was 46 years ago! Organisations, including political parties and Trade Unions, change hugely in that time frame

So why are you worried about 1978? Starmer purged the party of the Left,and you'd know what's been going on if you read a broad range of papers.

The left have FAR more influence than the right. In fact, I don't know how the left can complain about bias and keep a straight face! They dominate everything!! The 'long march through the institutions' is pretty much complete. The left dominate the BBC, the universities, the arts, the publishing industry, even the libraries. For crying out loud, just wander through Waterstones and you'll see book after book attacking British history and British heroes. The media in this country is overwhelmingly liberal-left. If you really want to be a counter-cultural rebel, you have to be a patriotic conservative!

I regard myself as a moderate conservative. Actually, I'd say 'left-wing conservative' best suits me. But I am terrified of what's coming, and I say that with my hand on my heart. We are about to elect a socialist government with a massive majority. Obviously they will wreck the economy, that kind of goes without saying. But they will also do nothing to control immigration. On the contrary, it will get worse. Some Labour activists believe in open borders ffs. If the Tories let in 750,000 people in one year, what the hell are Labour going to do? If they have a huge majority, they'll disregard any protests and open the floodgates. That means endless, and I mean endless, house building. Make the most of those fields where you walk your dog. In fact, make the most of any quiet rural spot where you go to escape the noise and traffic, because after ten years of Starmer, central and southern England are going to be covered in ghastly rabbit hutch houses jammed on top of one another.

It is quite terrifying that Starmer refuses to work "pretty much come what may" past 6 o'clock

Sounds totes committed