The "terrifying threat from Labour"

Me, I'm petrified by the idea of a government that is not largely corrupt and almost totally incompetent. It's so different from what I'm used to.

The conservatives did not do that. The surgery was stopped by a court case.
An independent review criticised the Tavistock Clinic and made serious safeguarding allegations which meant that the NHS trust had no choice but to close it.
Either of these actions would have happened whoever was in government.

Never spewed Tory hate? You must be a very rare Labour party voter, it's in the DNA

I noticed it when I grew up and moved more to the right. I had never had any viciousness from the right when I was a loud member of the Labour party, yet one slight move to the right, small c conservative, and the vitriol that comes your way from the left is relentless.

And yeah, Farage is very like Hitler, you are totally right

I said i never called them Hitler, not that i haven't disagreed with them. I'm friends with Tory voters and friends with someone married to a councilor. So i wouldn't say all Tories are X. But what i can say is the overrall party is corrupt and has done nothing but cause more devastation to women in this latest cycle in power. You're the one claiming that its in Labour voters DNA to be like that - how would you like it if i painted every Tory as hate filled?

I have the opposite personally. I've been verbally abused viciously for being a Labour voter.

Did i say Farage is 'like' Hitler? No i stated Parties that say nice things about Hitler. One of the things that makes me most proud to be British was our part as an Allied country.

"single issue feminist".

It is the biggest issue: if the definition itself is not correct or corrupted!

It’s clearly not ‘silencing’ you

Why not pick up the issue you want and someone might respond

You don’t think it’s terrifying now but just you wait until they clear out your pension to fund the construction of a basket weaving therapy centre for LGBTQIA+ refugees and tax you at 95%.

The Tory election campaign has been abysmal.

Once disaster after another and it seems that now all they have left is random and increasingly desperate scaremongering or lies.

Frankly, anyone with a bit of common sense just looks back at the past 14 years and how everything in this country has gone downhill and realises it is time for a change.

Labour, Lib Dem and the Greens make sense depending on where you live and tactical voting.

But suggesting the Tories of the Reform lunatics are good options is pure madness.

what do you think is stopping him right now to shift his opinion?

I think he’s very sensibly avoiding the complete media pile on that would follow, drowning out every other discussion on important issues like health and the economy. I am GC myself but I do not believe that it should be the single most important issue in this GE.

The hysteria on here about Labour and women’s rights is ridiculously overblown and stops Any meaningful debate on any other issue. In fact all it does is silence women on any other topic because every political thread is immediately deluged by people (bots? Tory plants?) wringing their hands about the incoming Labour apocalypse.

Do mean mean done nothing other than close the Tavistock gender clinic and make it illegal for children to have HRT or transition mutiliation surgery?

The Conservative government have had 14 years to change the law on Trans issues. They have done nothing. They proposed Self D and then did a U turn.
The Conservatives do not give a stuff about Transgender people or womens rights. They are playing you.
Judge people by what they do, not what they say. If they cared about these issues they would have done something. They have done nothing.

How can you say you want an educated and informed person and equate that with David Lammy saying men can grow a cervix?

I think you are living in a dream world if you think Starmer will shift on the trans issue. He has had PLENTY of time - what do you think is stopping him right now to shift his opinion?

If you say, the far left party members, it's not really a great reason. In fact, shows him up even more to be a man of no integrity at all.

Op im a swinging voter, I have no tribal allegiance to any party and I've voted Labour more than anyone else else.

I am fairly new to understanding the horror of stonewall etc the deep reach into our schools and councils, and the brain washing of right think into our young.

Rosie Duffield and jk Rowling and many mntter have brought it to my attention and the more one researched and learned about it all the more horrified I am.

I do genuinely feel it's panic stations. However keir did say one clear statement on it. This is really important and something to do hold him too.

I just think of the Rotherham scandal under labour and how everyone around the abused girls struggled to call it out for fear of being called racist.

Im worried the same will happen with trans issues and it will become a hate crime to not want a man fling a smear test because he called himself female.

Yeah, all sounds lovely. Spend time with your family, prioritise. Fabulous.

But it stinks to me of some bullshit he's read on a motivational post on LinkedIn.

He's going to be the PM FFS

On a Friday evening. As his wife and children are Jewish, and it's a sacred family time.

I'm sure that he works waaaayy past 6pm most evenings, and over weekends. Which is why he prioritises one evening a week as family time.

Maybe / maybe not but I guess we’ll see after the GE

The real wealthy in this country don’t earn by going to work. They live off investments. Earning £50k is not at all wealthy. I hope Labour realise that.

OP I agree with you. I am not a Labour voter. I am a centrist who has voted both Conservative and Labour.
Starmer is a centrist. His policies are classic middle of the road ones that are good for the economy and good for public services. The extreme left wing hate him as do the extreme right wing. So seeing the scaremongering on here is laughable.
If the posts were being accurate they should be from people on the extreme left wing bemoaning the fact that it would have been a different government under Corbyn. The posts are totally inaccurate and simply painting a vision of a current Labour party that bares zero resemblance to the reality.
I mean look at the facts, Traditional Conservative major donors and businesses are backing Starmers Labour. They understand that what he is proposing will be good for business and good for the economy.

I think it shows a man with integrity who isn’t ashamed to believe that families matter.

It shows principles. That’s something that’s been missing from Government for a long time.

labour and the gender issue is terrifying. But anything else under Labour? I’m not scared at all. What is there to be scared of? Maybe I’m missing something.