Don't vote reform

My View is that there has been a lot of stagnation in politics over the years
and people have seen little action in turning back the mass of illegal migration with boat people neither Labour or the tories have a solution Nigel Farage is a breath of fresh air and we. need to reform the way our government does business. unless you want more of the same. . Inertia, lack of investment in the NHS. Social services. we need this country to pull together and support all that is good support our farmers clean up our rivers re nationalise. water, electricity the essentials that everybody needs not put money in the pockets of shareholders like him or hate him Nigel Farage is passionate about Britain doing better and not being so reliant on EU rules that still encumber us ...

How will voting reform “reduce the population”

Asking people to vote or not vote for a party is pretty much essential to a democracy.

So you’ll vote for Reform whose owner actually led to MASSIVE increase in immigration? It’s like the Brexit vote again ‘I know what I’m voting for!’ FFS.

Also you do realise illegal immigration is minuscule compared to legal migration? About 500k Ukrainians and people from Hong Kong came here legally last year alone.

In any case we need immigrants to work and become net tax payers.

What an excellent & passive aggressive contribution! Along with your ‘I don’t hold it against people’)ones too🤣

I'm voting Reform. Not because I'm racist but because they are the only ones offering to sort out the immigration crisis in this country. The nhs, housing and schools need sorting out. I want to be able to get an appointment at my gp surgery. The only way to fix the problem is to reduce the population.

Telling people who to vote for isn't a good idea. This isn't Russia you know.

I don’t think MN crowd are your target audience for this OP. Everyone here is already a progressive, innit?

You vote for who you want , everyone else will do the same.
Why do you think you can influence others. None of your business .

@Flamme putting a pink bus aside and aksing women and trans women to go in there would also cause no problems, probably on that day

remember the Labour conference where all had to use unisex toilets?

I do.

I also remember that it caused, um, no problems whatsoever.

Two obvious points:

1. their immigration targets would wreck the economy further which puts the squeeze on everyone again.

Even if making the UK a pariah by taking us out the ECHR helps reduce the boats, that's the reality with the legal routes which is most immigration.

2. their tax cuts across the board would do the same

@Lillianer do you think a Farage led government would be a safer place for women than a Starmer led one? Really? How will you be safer? Is it the way he admires Andrew Tate or Vladimir Putin, you know, those two well known advocates of women's rights?

Do you mean @caringcarer is paid / staff?

Not on the same scale. Reform's commitments would cost many multiples of the commitments being made by Labour or the Tories. The Greens' spending commitments are through the roof as well.

None of the parties are being honest about how they're going to pay for stuff, but look at the detail of the spending commitments and you will see that they are not the same.

Like I said earlier, it's easy to promise the moon when you know you won't have to deliver it.

Why are you trying to control the expression of someone's opinion? People are absolutely entitled to express a view on the merits of voting for a racist party or candidate.

It would have to be austerity on steroids to make the books balance.

Whoever gets in are going to need to do this 🙄

Me too. Only a tiny proportion of estates are liable for inheritance tax in any case. A lot of people assume that it will affect them when they're way off the threshold.

You care about women’s rights but yet want to vote for Farage who supports Andrew Tate and convicted rapist ‘grab em by the pussy’ and ‘take away their right to choose’ Trump?

The Reform social media team are fucking shit aren’t they? I thought Tice , Farage and Aaron Banks were rich? Can’t they afford to fund a better operation than this? Maybe true to far right wing form they pay peanuts and provide poor working conditions so get low quality staff?

I used a unisex toilet in a museum on Sunday. I've lived to tell the tale. I very much hope the incoming government will increase both inheritance tax and capital gains tax.

No other party has has racism scandals on the scale of Reform. Look at the past week - three kicked out for their vile comments about black people, two expelled for being BNP members, two resigned due to horror at the widespread racism embedded throughout the party plus the Channel 4 expose. There is nothing like it in other parties - nowhere near.

Because it would cost about over 100 billion that we don’t have, and the lowest earners would be slightly better off while the rich would be massively better under Reform’s plan to slash Corp tax to 15%. It’s the rich who will reap the benefits, not the poor, according to the IFS.

And they reckon they can fund this by cutting our public services. How? There are hardly any left? The NHS and Social care are the likely targets. Maybe we should leave pensioners to die in their homes. It will save us a few quid.

You don’t get to tell people how to vote. 🗳️

No one is catering for you. I think a lot of moderate, sane Tory voters who were completely alienated by Johnson, Truss and the stranglehold that the ERG has had on the Tory party since Brexit don't have a party that aligns with their views anymore. But that can't justify voting for far-right racists, surely?

I think for those Tories, it's better if the Lib Dems do well. The Tory party has to rebuild after this election. If Reform are successful, it will lurch even further right. If the electorate reject Reform, the decimated husk of the party might build closer to the centre again.

So if your fictional friends are concerned about immigration, why would they vote for Reform? It used to be called UKIP, then the Brexit party.

Farage caused Brexit. Since we Brexited, immigration has shot through the roof. Do you think there may be a correlation? Will wait patiently for an answer. Tell Tice and Farage you’ll need a pay rise for the overtime.