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Who was being (more) U? Me or dh?

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NoSir · 02/07/2024 09:55

I am now in a bit of a grump after annoying start to the day. Here is what happened.

Dh dropped the dcs and me halfway to school this morning on his way to work. When we left the house, dd (6yo with mild SEN) left her bag in the hall. I didn't pick it up. I got both dds in the car and dh was last to leave the house. He also didn't pick up the bag.

Got to where dh dropped us off and noticed dd didn't have her schoolbag.

Dh said he would go and get it but then said he couldn't and could I do it? Yes, fine. My work isn't far from school and I could walk home, get the stuff and bring it back in my car.

Walked dds to school. On the way they said they were freezing, so I said I would pick up their jumpers at the same time as the bag.

Got to school gate and started writing gate slips to explain to teachers. While I was standing there dh ran up behind me, dropped the school bag beside me and half shouted "I've got to go, I've got to go!" and ran off before I could turn round. His tone was rude and embarrassing right in front of head teacher, other parents etc He had gone home and got the bag while we were walking to school. He had tried to call me but I hadn't heard it.

Then realised I still had said I would get the kids' jumpers, so still had to walk home, get their jumpers, drive back and then go to work. I also had to tear up the gate slip about dd bag and then write a new one about the jumper instead (in hindsight maybe this was unnecessary)

Called dh on the way home to say wtf was that? I didn't swear though but did say "that was so rude and embarrassing". Non aggressive tone - possibly a bit whiny He was annoyed at me for "telling him off". He has GAD and he sees criticism where there isn't any at the best of times, so when I actually am being a bit critical he stresses the fuck out.

I have italicised the bits where I know I was being U.

Aibu to think wtf and how embarrassing to be spoken to like that in the playground? It was his tone more than anything like totally exasperated. Aibu to also think me phoning him to "tell him off" / say it was rude is less U than doing it in the playground about a foot in front of the Headteacher? Aibu to also think that his anxiety doesn't mean he can just shout "don't tell me off" (which he did) every time I have to tell him something negative? I am so supportive and encouraging 99% of the time.

Ugh grumpy now and I am usually not, so that's annoyed me even more. Humph

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Ivesaidenough · 02/07/2024 18:33

I disagree with most of these replies.
DH created a needless drama in my view. You'd already agreed between you that YOU would go back. When he couldn't get hold of you on the phone he should have left the arrangements as they were.
Drawing loads of attention to himself for being a martyr by shouting and throwing things isn't really something I'd praise him for either.

autienotnaughty · 02/07/2024 15:20

I'd be irritated. Shouting in playground like he's the most important person. It also implied you made him go back. When it was his mistake it was left in the first place!

NoSir · 02/07/2024 13:34

rainbowstardrops · 02/07/2024 13:23

Your children's school has air conditioning?!! Mine barely has enough white boards and pens! 🤣 Sorry, missing the point!

Wrt you and your DH, it was just a bit of a lack of communication. Nothing more.

Maybe it would be a good idea to make a visual reminder board for your child/children?
Like you will need ..... and then a picture of their shoes, jumper, book bag etc etc
Might be helpful?

Hehe I know! I do tell them they're lucky. My office hasn't got air con! I'd love it.

Thanks - I'm sure you're right.

I will try and bow out again now - thanks for all of your comments again 💐

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rainbowstardrops · 02/07/2024 13:23

Your children's school has air conditioning?!! Mine barely has enough white boards and pens! 🤣 Sorry, missing the point!

Wrt you and your DH, it was just a bit of a lack of communication. Nothing more.

Maybe it would be a good idea to make a visual reminder board for your child/children?
Like you will need ..... and then a picture of their shoes, jumper, book bag etc etc
Might be helpful?

NoSir · 02/07/2024 13:07

I'm not usually a reactive person at all, but he did come across as really irritated with me earlier. I found it rude tbh as I certainly didn't ask him to go and get the bag. I was going to go and get it as planned. I don't think finding his rude tone rude all that extreme or bizarre. I do overthink on here when I'm stressed out, but he doesn't hear it.

Anyway, I've apologised now to him for being grumpy and thanked him for getting the bag.

As to me causing his GAD, not sure what to do there as we love each other a lot and I don't think he'd rather be without me tbh. But thanks for suggesting that @babadumm - certainly worth considering! I'm sure you're trying to be helpful which I do appreciate 💐

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NoSir · 02/07/2024 12:50

babadumm · 02/07/2024 12:12

I genuinely am not trying to pick on the OP but from this incident, I'm also wondering if she is contributing to or causing his GAD! Granted it's just 1 incident and may be out of character for her, but it's such a bizarre and extreme overreaction.

I wasn't planning to post again, but saw this - God I obviously really hope not! I will talk to him.

Anxiety is a dick and I really do feel for him. He's been struggling a lot lately, but I'm not sure how to help. He needs to do less but weirdly that doesn't seem to help him as he hates being in the house (maybe you're right @babadumm as maybe what really gets to him is being around me)! That doesn't seem to be the case, but since from my post you've thought I might have given him GAD, I honestly am questioning a lot of things, as I didn't think that sort of assumption was a natural one to make here!

Will try and get more advice on how to help him, but it might be that he's better off not living with us, ultimately- (I've honestly thought that many times and even asked him if he'd rather that). He finds family life more stressful than work for sure! It does affect the kids when he's very stressy and that feeds back as he probably feels bad about that, which makes him more stressed and so on...

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Staringatthewalljustmeagain · 02/07/2024 12:45

Well, this sounds exhausting.

LawrieForShepherdsBoy · 02/07/2024 12:22

@NoSir I totally get why this would have felt embarrassing, especially in front of headteacher. But everybody has bad days, and escalating things when other person is struggling rarely makes things better.

babadumm · 02/07/2024 12:12

Kelly51 · 02/07/2024 12:06

That was exhausting reading the mountain made out of nothing?
Is this the way you live? nitpicking and overthinking? finding offence everywhere?
He done you a favour and you tell him off?

I genuinely am not trying to pick on the OP but from this incident, I'm also wondering if she is contributing to or causing his GAD! Granted it's just 1 incident and may be out of character for her, but it's such a bizarre and extreme overreaction.

Kelly51 · 02/07/2024 12:06

That was exhausting reading the mountain made out of nothing?
Is this the way you live? nitpicking and overthinking? finding offence everywhere?
He done you a favour and you tell him off?

Safetyworry · 02/07/2024 12:06

I dont think you were wrong . I think it’s exhausting having a SEN child and working and you and dh both sound like you are trying your best in difficult circumstances so there’s bound to be flashpoints or misinterpretations etc.

I hope you can get some time to yourself today. I know what it’s like when you feeling like you’re rushing about all the time and stressed Flowers

babadumm · 02/07/2024 12:04

Jellytotsandwinegums · 02/07/2024 10:43

I would have been cross too OP - seems there was an implication that you forgot the bag, nothing to do with him, so you could go back and get it, and he time for a quick hello.i'd be pissed off at the immediate assumption that you should go home for the bag, he's too busy, as it seems your time is less precious.

Lots of people have stressful mornings with kids, but getting narky with your partner is not inevitable.

Having GAD is not an excuse to dodge any criticism - though maybe you need to crouch it as 'I'm not criticising you, I do love and appreciate you BUT ....' otherwise you end up being a doormat.

You are very oversensitive if that's how you'd have interpreted it.

babadumm · 02/07/2024 12:00

Let us all quiver and prostrate ourselves in front of the sacred Headteacher.

Honestly it's fine. Tiny bit rude/thoughtless/self important, but the teachers will have seen hundreds of parents in a rush before.

maw1681 · 02/07/2024 11:56

You are being more U, sorry. Mornings are stressful and he was helping you out by going back for the bag after all so you didn't have to walk back.
Teachers will see stressed out parents every morning

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 02/07/2024 11:50

NoSir · 02/07/2024 11:07

I know right? I will speak to him later. I understand a bit better now why it bothered me. I don't need him to get the bag - I need him to find a way to calm the fuck down (which I would NEVER say to him, as he is so anxious). I know that GAD is so much more complex than just calming the fuck down before anyone jumps up and down

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It sounds like you need some way of more clearly communicating certain things. Like a short cut for "I've got this 100% don't worry" or "I can hear you're getting anxious please go for a walk/step back/insert behaviour that helps him regulate." The tone was probably due to the anxiety. Anger and shouting isn't an unusual response from someone feeling anxious. Its more comfortable to feel angry than scared. That doesn't excuse it of course. Ive been on both sides as someone with anxiety, though I tend to go quite not get loud, and a mum with a child with severe anxiety who can do either. Clear communication, clear expectations, a way for him to say he can't cope or for you say you need him to take his anxiety out of the room could all help, but it only works if he's on board too. It is so hard having anxiety but it's also really hard on the other side trying to support the person with anxiety and trying o minimise the impact of that anxiety on your children.

fancystrawberries · 02/07/2024 11:32

NoSir · 02/07/2024 11:07

I know right? I will speak to him later. I understand a bit better now why it bothered me. I don't need him to get the bag - I need him to find a way to calm the fuck down (which I would NEVER say to him, as he is so anxious). I know that GAD is so much more complex than just calming the fuck down before anyone jumps up and down

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Life can be stressful. You did fine, he did fine. You were both there for your daughter, and in the end that is saying something.

NoSir · 02/07/2024 11:21

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/07/2024 11:14

My goodness, what playground antics - in the playground. A non issue / non story.
Are you really both adults.

Thanks again for your help all - I'll just bow off the thread now as can see this just going in circles.

Thanks olderglaswegian, we are indeed both adults! Are you really glaswegian though 🤔?

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pinkyredrose · 02/07/2024 11:21

Sounds like a typical Monday morning storm in a teacup, don't let it bother you.

GAD - Grumpy Arse Dad.

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 02/07/2024 11:14

My goodness, what playground antics - in the playground. A non issue / non story.
Are you really both adults.

Gelasring · 02/07/2024 11:10

NoSir · 02/07/2024 11:00

I think, having given it more thought, the problem for me this morning was that dh has a bit of a history of doing more and more stuff to help and then getting really stressed which creates a horrible atmosphere. I've said to him in the past that I would prefer he do less and be less stressed.

Not an intentional drip feed as I hadn't pinpointed what it was that bothered me so much about this. I think this^^ is why.

Thanks for your comments - they truly have helped me figure this out. I'll speak to dh again

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Ah yes. I can see that would be difficult. My DH has the occasional tendency towards martyrdom which can be irritating. At least I can point it out to him and he stops being a muppet. I guess your dh's anxiety makes that difficult.

I think sometimes you're best ignoring the martyrdom though - this morning he would have presumably huffed off to be stressy and difficult at work which wouldn't have been your problem.

LittleOwl153 · 02/07/2024 11:09

Whilst you are reflecting on this OP, can I suggest you look at the dd with SEN... its tough I get it. She will be pulling your family relationships all over the place.

Can I recommend that you seek to out I to place things that will help her respond as close to kids her age as you can as early as you can? So for example having a check list - pictures if need be - to ensure she has what she needs each day and getting HER into the routine of checking it? It sounds daft - and potentially demanding of a 6yr old - but try and keep her up with your older dd in the organisational sense. It's so much harder to do as they get older and the gap becomes bigger!

And remember kids make mornings/life SEND kids make it even harder. Give yourself some space and take care!

NoSir · 02/07/2024 11:07

fancystrawberries · 02/07/2024 10:57

All of this op. He went back for your sake, even though he was obviously stressed for work. He still went back.

And then you tell him off for it.

I know right? I will speak to him later. I understand a bit better now why it bothered me. I don't need him to get the bag - I need him to find a way to calm the fuck down (which I would NEVER say to him, as he is so anxious). I know that GAD is so much more complex than just calming the fuck down before anyone jumps up and down

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Bestyearever2024 · 02/07/2024 11:06

NoSir · 02/07/2024 10:56

Well thank you for clarifying. There is other stuff going on (dd with sen, dh with anxiety which can become quite severe). In the context of the thread, I did read "are you always this difficult?", as one of those standard MN phrases which are usually meant to kick the op.

So yes, I'm sure I was more difficult than usual this morning 💐

Ah I see! Yes, now you've said that, I can see I may have come across as a typical MN kick-witch. Thank you for letting me clarify! Flowers

I thought your DH was lovely to go the extra mile, but of course, there's always an element of 'otherings' isn't there? Which add to your view of the situation but not mine (because I don't know them!)

Sending you love ❤️

NoSir · 02/07/2024 11:00

I think, having given it more thought, the problem for me this morning was that dh has a bit of a history of doing more and more stuff to help and then getting really stressed which creates a horrible atmosphere. I've said to him in the past that I would prefer he do less and be less stressed.

Not an intentional drip feed as I hadn't pinpointed what it was that bothered me so much about this. I think this^^ is why.

Thanks for your comments - they truly have helped me figure this out. I'll speak to dh again

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FictionalCharacter · 02/07/2024 10:58

NoSir · 02/07/2024 10:43

And yes, this^^ is why i phoned him. I also didn't understand what had happened. But I appreciate that might have come across more confrontational than it should have

You probably were more sharp than you needed to be but again it isn’t the crime of the century.
I’d still like to know whether he understands that him changing his mind, and getting the bag, meant that you would have got home to find the bag missing. You could have been searching the house thinking it must have been in another room.
This is totally the kind of thing my dh does and it can be incredibly annoying. I say I’ll take a watch to be mended tomorrow because he says he can’t do it, then I turn the house upside down looking for the watch and can’t find it, and at the end of the day he says “yeah I took it this morning” and looks at me like I should have known. It isn’t something to be grateful for. It would be fine if they said “I can do it after all”.