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ExDH new GF posting photos of children

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Pixie378 · 02/07/2024 09:05

AIBU to ask my ex to ask his GF to removed the photos of our children from Facebook?.
Her profile is public and I do not know her or anyone she knows.
I have not given permission for the photos to be put on her social media and feel that this is disrespectful.
I have asked nicely.

OP posts:
HebburnPokemon · 06/07/2024 09:38

she is constantly messaging me for validation of her relationship with him and reassurance

Like what messages for example?

adviceneeded1990 · 06/07/2024 09:38

Gwenhwyfar · 06/07/2024 09:31

What if they are taken without consent e.g. I am taking a photo of the park, but there are people there, including children? Obviously, I don't ask their permission.

I think it’s the same - no one owns a child’s image and think about how many holiday pics people take that you are probably in the background of. When my DH was doing his custody minute of agreement, social media posting was suggested by the solicitor as something they should come to an agreement on and they both felt the same way, but it was just a suggestion to avoid arguing later not a law.

ImustLearn2Cook · 06/07/2024 09:38

@Pixie378 YANBU however, the law is not on your side. I personally don’t post any pictures of my dd online because I believe that all children should have the right to give informed consent. Until they are old enough to fully understand the internet and internet safety they are unable to give informed consent.

I can’t stop her dad from posting photos of her though and anyone else who he has given permission to. He knows my stance about children having the right to give informed consent, he doesn’t see the harm in posting photos of children.

Sometimes parents are just not on the same page whether they’re still together or split up. And one parent really can’t overrule the other or dictate what they can and can’t do.

Catapultaway · 06/07/2024 09:37

Gwenhwyfar · 06/07/2024 09:31

What if they are taken without consent e.g. I am taking a photo of the park, but there are people there, including children? Obviously, I don't ask their permission.

You only have rights where you have an expectation of privacy. If people are in a public park unfortunately there is no expectation of privacy.

We don't post any pictures of DC online, but that is a choice, it's something like 80% of parents do. For us it's nothing to do with AI / perverts etc, it was about what I wouldn't have wanted when I was a teenager, which was loads of embarrassing baby pictures etc being available 😂
I'm not saying it's wrong to post them, just a choice we decided on, and obviously we are in the minority so we're probably wrong.

TheAlchemistElixa · 06/07/2024 09:36

rainbowunicorn · 06/07/2024 09:27

She does not need permission. Anyone can take pictures of anyone else including children and publish them online. Whether she should be doing this or not is another matter but as far as the law goes she is within her rights ad the owner of the photo to publish it online.

I do hate it when people refer to “the rules” and “the law” like some prim head girl. The only important and salient fact here is that one of the parents is unhappy having pictures of their children on public internet forums.

The other parent, and step parent, are morally obliged to consider this view, even though it’s more conservative than theirs, and perhaps show some respect and err on the side of caution for that parent’s sake, and the children’s. Or at the least have a proper discussion about it.

Anything else is just poor co-parenting.

Pixie378 · 06/07/2024 09:32

I love how some think I am demanding or dictating to my ex about these photos but I have been nothing but calm and polite to him.

More than he deserves from the verbal abuse I used to get from him when he lived with us.

This was the first time new GF met them and also behind my back as he had told me she had gone away but clearly another lie.

I appreciate he can have a say but seeing as we have not really been able to sit down and discuss anything as he can't cope with real life well and always runs away from proper responsibility I guess I have to let him expose our children to all sorts

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Gwenhwyfar · 06/07/2024 09:32

TheAlchemistElixa · 06/07/2024 09:27

To post public pictures of someone else’s children? Of course she does!

Which is the law that says this?

Gwenhwyfar · 06/07/2024 09:31

adviceneeded1990 · 06/07/2024 09:20

If the photos were taken with consent in a private home or public place there is basically nothing you can do legally. Schools ask for permission for safeguarding reasons eg LAC, DV, situations where a photo could cause risk.

What if they are taken without consent e.g. I am taking a photo of the park, but there are people there, including children? Obviously, I don't ask their permission.

rainbowunicorn · 06/07/2024 09:28

TheAlchemistElixa · 06/07/2024 09:27

To post public pictures of someone else’s children? Of course she does!

In the eyes of the law she does not.

rainbowunicorn · 06/07/2024 09:27

Strawberryicecream88 · 06/07/2024 09:13

She does need permission. Not her kids to post!

She does not need permission. Anyone can take pictures of anyone else including children and publish them online. Whether she should be doing this or not is another matter but as far as the law goes she is within her rights ad the owner of the photo to publish it online.

TheAlchemistElixa · 06/07/2024 09:27

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To post public pictures of someone else’s children? Of course she does!

adviceneeded1990 · 06/07/2024 09:20

Gwenhwyfar · 06/07/2024 08:38

Is that a legal right or safeguarding policies for school? Can you link to the law that says people can't post photos of children without permission?

If the photos were taken with consent in a private home or public place there is basically nothing you can do legally. Schools ask for permission for safeguarding reasons eg LAC, DV, situations where a photo could cause risk.

adviceneeded1990 · 06/07/2024 09:18

Unfortunately if her Dad has given consent then there’s nothing you can do. I agree with you though! I post my DSD occasionally but I’ve helped raise her for 7 years, have a private account with family and close friends and my DH and his ex also post and we are all friends on social media. I wouldn’t have posted at the beginning of our relationship or without knowing her Mum’s views on social media.

tuvamoodyson · 06/07/2024 09:17

Strawberryicecream88 · 06/07/2024 09:13

She does need permission. Not her kids to post!

But they’re her partners children, sounds like he’s happy to allow it or do think, as their father, he shouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion on it?

tuvamoodyson · 06/07/2024 09:15

Feelsodrained · 06/07/2024 06:35

Yes he clearly has but he doesn’t even need to. I could take pictures of your kids in the park and put them all over my social media and you wouldn’t be able to do anything about it. You don’t own their image.

Yes, I know that. Some people on here think it should only happen with the mother’s permission, I’m saying, the father is also the parent of the child, he has an opinion on the matter too…in this case, sounds like he doesn’t object.

Strawberryicecream88 · 06/07/2024 09:13

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She does need permission. Not her kids to post!

Arewealljustloosingtheplot · 06/07/2024 08:43

EnglishBluebell · 05/07/2024 23:54

Of course it's 'to do with' op they're her children who are being put at risk ffs!

Their dad gets an equal say! Unfortunately OP doesn’t get to dictate to him what she wants. ( well she can, but he doesn’t have to listen!)

JarOfParts · 06/07/2024 08:41

Gwenhwyfar · 06/07/2024 08:38

Is that a legal right or safeguarding policies for school? Can you link to the law that says people can't post photos of children without permission?

No I can’t because I’m asking the question.

FriendsDrinkBook · 06/07/2024 08:39

I see what you're all saying , but if the dad gave permission then that's enough. Just the same as if mum's friend posted a picture of the child in question. Literally nothing you can legally do unless there are other factors protecting the kid's identity. Got this information from my solicitor.

Gwenhwyfar · 06/07/2024 08:38

JarOfParts · 06/07/2024 08:28

Seriously? I know you have no right over your own photograph, but surely when it comes to children you have a legal right? Certain children, adopted for example, have rights not to have their photos posted, so surely other children do too? I mean, their parents consent.

Is that a legal right or safeguarding policies for school? Can you link to the law that says people can't post photos of children without permission?

Gwenhwyfar · 06/07/2024 08:35

LostTheMarble · 05/07/2024 18:46

MN is amazing at times. Schools require permission from all parents to share pictures, but a woman who may have god knows who on her own friends list is absolutely fine to share pictures of kids that aren’t her own all over social media without any vetting or opinion from their parent? It’s not like treating them to an ice cream and mum’s not happy about it - there are valid concerns here.

I could be in my local park and take a photo of it with children visible in that photo and I can legally put that on FB. As far as I'm aware, people, including children, who are photographed in a public place do not need to give permission.

I live abroad and the law is different here...

JarOfParts · 06/07/2024 08:28

Feelsodrained · 06/07/2024 08:08

Morally no but legally not much you can do.
if the OP tries to appeal to her horrible ex, he will just laugh in her face. It’s better to not let him know that she’s bothered.

Seriously? I know you have no right over your own photograph, but surely when it comes to children you have a legal right? Certain children, adopted for example, have rights not to have their photos posted, so surely other children do too? I mean, their parents consent.

FriendsDrinkBook · 06/07/2024 08:14

Exh's new gf was posting pictures of our kids years ago , I went to see my solicitor as we were in family court at the time. There wasn't a thing (legally) I could do to stop it. He was on to the next girlfriend soon enough , the pictures were removed at this point. Very frustrating times.

The kids are grown now , but I'm convinced exh allowed this to upset me as I don't post images of my kids on sm. He's petty like that.

Feelsodrained · 06/07/2024 08:10

Pixie378 · 06/07/2024 08:07

He has not egged her on at all, she is a reasonable girl and if I asked her direct she would take them down.

I know if it was the other way round I would receive non stop harassment from my ex to take them down, I've been nothing but polite to him.

I don't want to unblock her as she is constantly messaging me for validation of her relationship with him and reassurance because he is a natural liar and as far as I am concerned she made her bed she can flipping well deal with her own insecurities.

I have not been in love with him for a long time and the only thing that upset me when he was left is how I was to manage on my own financially and with 3 young kids. But I have found I am stronger without him and ok with the co parent thing as long as it's good for our kids - he has never been the best dad although he's doing a good impression for the rest of the world right now

She doesn’t sound that reasonable if she keeps messaging you to the extent you have to block her. But yeah if you think she would take them down if asked, just ask her to do that. That seems the obvious solution.

Feelsodrained · 06/07/2024 08:08

JarOfParts · 06/07/2024 07:51

This is a really concerning attitude.

No one should be positing photos of other people’s kids without permission. No one.

Really no one should be posting photos of anyone else without permission, but that’s the unfortunate society we live in today. But kids are not fair game. No.

Morally no but legally not much you can do.
if the OP tries to appeal to her horrible ex, he will just laugh in her face. It’s better to not let him know that she’s bothered.