Kier Starmer - what he'll be like as a PM

Unfortunately the GC posters with one focus insist on derailing discussion. This thread is about Starmer and his wider qualities as a potential PM, but they still have to try and take over discussions by pushing their agenda.

Sir Keir keeps Friday evenings clear as his wife is Jewish

WTAF is that meant to mean?

@Aladdinzane this subject clearly holds no interest for you.

If it did you would understand the irony of whipping away women's rights and then talking about helping women in with health and policing.

Naivety is a wonderful quality and we need innocence and naivety in this world... But as the safe school alliance states, in our leaders we simply need leaders who will protect children.

Rishi has only had a short time to calm the waters after the last 2 leaders . He’s already made progress . Give him a few years in charge and he’d toss out the dross , settle things down and apply his considerable and speedy grasp of policy to make the changes needed. Rome wasn’t built in a day .
Remember what he said would happen if Liz got voted in ?
Hear what he says about Labours entry to the fold and beware . He’s wary of being too commital on biological sex in case he loses votes so don’t be taken in by that .
Sir Keir keeps Friday evenings clear as his wife is Jewish .

The Jackboot is you raising this all the time, in every thread.

The polls can tell you what a minor issue people think this is.

The reaction of many on here can tell you what they think of the dogmatic approach you take.

Anyway, you go on pretending to protect women and girls from the trans bogeyman.

Starmer will make a difference to education, health and policing, which will protect them much more.

@Moot000.. Indeed his treatment of rose and his clenched fist during the Jane from london debate are deeply concerning. The whole package is terrifying.

Ah well, if he’s a pathological liar, he’ll be the natural heir to Boris.

Pathological liar?

I do and so do so many others. How dare you speak for me.

You're so delusional that you think anyone cares what you think.

Look at the polls, see how important gender issues are?

@Aladdinzane.. No one reads my posts anymore except.... You?

What a dogmatic approach you have to posters raising this issue.

The jack boot already setting in.

Women's rights are not a minor issue overall. Disabled women who want female carers for intimate care.
Women in prison, forced to share prison cells and showers with intact men.
Women in domestic abuse shelters, homeless hostels or trying to access single sex rape crisis counselling.

None of these vulnerable women are on your radar. Ask yourself why any political party should hold our rights to ransom? If your partner was telling you that ''you can have some more housekeeping but in return you'll have to give up seeing your friends'', you'd recognise it for what it is.

It happened the world over and if you had any interest in this subject you would know and understand that.

I suspect he will be dreadful, like all the others for many years now. He's already proven himself a coward and he really doesn't like women at all - it's obvious every time he's been asked a question about them, you can see it in his body language. Today's wittering doesn't reassure me at all, it's just to appease those pesky women at the 11th hour.

However, I'd be very happy to be proved wrong over the next few years.

He's also delusional, no better than Biden. Humans can't change sex.

Yes and that happened under a Conservative government. In fact almost all of "this" happened under a Conservative government. It's beyond me hoew anyone believes the Tories are in any way even slightly good for women.

No one reads your posts anymore.

He said almost exactly what you wanted to hear, but because it wasn't exact it's still derided.

This is a minor issue in this election. A minor issue overall.

If you really wanted to protect women and girls you'd be posting about issues that effect many more of them on a daily basis.

But no, it's this.

How can he be "fair" if he doesn't understand what he's being fair about?.. He wouldn't meet his own Labour mp rose dufflield... Treating everyone with respect!

Not to mention the bitter Corbynistas who look for every excuse [ and none] to paint him as a Red Tory.

Mein kraft this is the most fundamental of all, keir said he supports women against violence and so on but vulnerable women who have suffered from male violence could be in a refuge with men!

Stonewall got into councils and told women's charities unless men are included they will potentially loose funding

How?

Without legislative change. What are you expecting to happen wrt men with GRCs?

@DisappearingGirl..

I disagree. It's not a women with penis "thing".
. It's a fundamental attack on freedoms and liberties not won over time but that we still trying to win.

The world came under this wave and people were confused and stonewall and the like took hold.. The difference between labour and tory is that tory now recognises this and Rishi has been very clear about it.
Starmer has not and we know stonewall is a party supporter.

Myself and myself children and my girls have a right to have intimate care of given by biological women if we choose
If we are already vulnerable on an NHS ward (from illness and at risk form poor protection NHS gives against abuse and attack) we have the right to be along side biological women.

Very soon speaking out about this will be called a hate crime... Look at the one nurse in Scotland and the group of nurses... This will get far worse and our powers to raise this in a democracy will be removed.

Yes and they'll all be Tories.

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Even if that's true, it's different to the current lot because....?