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Kier Starmer - what he'll be like as a PM

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Dibbydoos · 02/07/2024 05:34

So this is the first time Ive seen anything written about Kier Starmer and I like the man described.

Am I being unreasonable?

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/how-keir-starmer-s-past-shows-what-he-would-be-like-as-prime-minister/ar-BB1peeCe?ocid=nl_article_link&cvid=68253a8bd44444739b56e177e78f2264&ei=21

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Janiie · 02/07/2024 14:05

ilovesooty · 02/07/2024 14:05

I don't think anyone will be pulling his strings.

🤣🤣

cupcaske123 · 02/07/2024 14:05

Janiie · 02/07/2024 14:04

Leaders need to look confident to instil confidence. He looks terrified. He'll have ministers like Lammy who think men can grow cervixes pulling his strings Confused.

If folk thought cakegate and Pinchergate were anything to fret over they are in for a horrid shock. Frank Spencer running the country.

I'd rather have Frank Spencer than Boris Benny Hill.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2024 14:05

ilovesooty · 02/07/2024 14:04

We've been through this before.

Have a good day.

Thanks I am

And we’ve been through it before because you try to control what topics can be discussed every time it comes up.

ilovesooty · 02/07/2024 14:05

I don't think anyone will be pulling his strings.

Janiie · 02/07/2024 14:04

CurlewKate · 02/07/2024 13:55

@Janiie "I'm not bothered about anyone having 'charisma' but they must be full of confidence"

Why?

Leaders need to look confident to instil confidence. He looks terrified. He'll have ministers like Lammy who think men can grow cervixes pulling his strings Confused.

If folk thought cakegate and Pinchergate were anything to fret over they are in for a horrid shock. Frank Spencer running the country.

ilovesooty · 02/07/2024 14:04

EasternStandard · 02/07/2024 14:01

Yep the details part is pushing it. He seems unaware with some policies

Again to @ilovesooty if someone posts on a topic others are allowed to respond or ask a question based on that post. It’s how mn works, if you only want a site which sticks to your pre approved notion of what to discuss there probably are some

We've been through this before.

Have a good day.

Aladdinzane · 02/07/2024 14:02

NoSnowdrop · 02/07/2024 13:56

“He’s meticulous, he’s methodical, he likes to get across the details“

hilarious.

that article is a load of crap, you poor fools.
he’s going to be the worst we’ve had since Blair and Brown fucked the country up.

and to those being dismissive about the privacy, dignity and safety of women and girls - shame on you.

stop tossing in the “GC” label to shut down debate. That anyone - anyone - can consider voting for someone to be PM when that person thinks that some women have penises is incredulous.

How did Blair and Brown fuck the country up? Pray tell.

It's also a fair critique that, in a country where there are far many bigger issues impacting the safety and quality of life for the vast majority of women and girls, it is ridiculous that this issue takes prime centre stage in every thread on MN driven by the same people.

As said, if you really cared you'd focus on the issues that would make the rights of millions of women and girls, their safety and their quality of life better rather than this one.

GC is the correct term. not used as a "shut down". Stop accusing anyone who counters your points of "shutting you down".

cupcaske123 · 02/07/2024 14:02

NoSnowdrop · 02/07/2024 13:56

“He’s meticulous, he’s methodical, he likes to get across the details“

hilarious.

that article is a load of crap, you poor fools.
he’s going to be the worst we’ve had since Blair and Brown fucked the country up.

and to those being dismissive about the privacy, dignity and safety of women and girls - shame on you.

stop tossing in the “GC” label to shut down debate. That anyone - anyone - can consider voting for someone to be PM when that person thinks that some women have penises is incredulous.

Tories believe men can be women.

Reform will probably get rid off the GRA after they take us out of the ECHR. If this is the only issue you care about, vote for them. Probably are already.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2024 14:01

NoSnowdrop · 02/07/2024 13:56

“He’s meticulous, he’s methodical, he likes to get across the details“

hilarious.

that article is a load of crap, you poor fools.
he’s going to be the worst we’ve had since Blair and Brown fucked the country up.

and to those being dismissive about the privacy, dignity and safety of women and girls - shame on you.

stop tossing in the “GC” label to shut down debate. That anyone - anyone - can consider voting for someone to be PM when that person thinks that some women have penises is incredulous.

Yep the details part is pushing it. He seems unaware with some policies

Again to @ilovesooty if someone posts on a topic others are allowed to respond or ask a question based on that post. It’s how mn works, if you only want a site which sticks to your pre approved notion of what to discuss there probably are some

ilovesooty · 02/07/2024 13:59

The people who are shutting down debate are the ones trying to move wider discussion into a single issue.

And denigrating those who respect what they see in Starmer and his wider qualities, and calling them fools is anything but respectful.

NoSnowdrop · 02/07/2024 13:56

“He’s meticulous, he’s methodical, he likes to get across the details“

hilarious.

that article is a load of crap, you poor fools.
he’s going to be the worst we’ve had since Blair and Brown fucked the country up.

and to those being dismissive about the privacy, dignity and safety of women and girls - shame on you.

stop tossing in the “GC” label to shut down debate. That anyone - anyone - can consider voting for someone to be PM when that person thinks that some women have penises is incredulous.

CurlewKate · 02/07/2024 13:55

@Janiie "I'm not bothered about anyone having 'charisma' but they must be full of confidence"

Why?

ilovesooty · 02/07/2024 13:55

Janiie · 02/07/2024 13:53

Nice man probably, lots of integrity maybe however he comes across as a wet doormat. He will get walked all over as he doesn't look like he'd say boo to a goose. Angela will no doubt do that for him though, she ll be running the show.

I'm not bothered about anyone having 'charisma' but they must be full of confidence and be convincing. He is neither of those things. He whines rather than bellows and looks so awkward. We will have a wet lettuce for PM. Great.

I think he's anything but weak. Just because he doesn't bellow that doesn't mean he's not quietly capable of exerting authority. I don't think anyone will be walking over him. He'll be in charge.

CurlewKate · 02/07/2024 13:54

@fromdownwest "Something off with him, no rhyme nor reason to my view, just a gut instinct."

Have you considered thinking? I've heard it's an excellent way of making decisions.

Janiie · 02/07/2024 13:53

Nice man probably, lots of integrity maybe however he comes across as a wet doormat. He will get walked all over as he doesn't look like he'd say boo to a goose. Angela will no doubt do that for him though, she ll be running the show.

I'm not bothered about anyone having 'charisma' but they must be full of confidence and be convincing. He is neither of those things. He whines rather than bellows and looks so awkward. We will have a wet lettuce for PM. Great.

ilovesooty · 02/07/2024 13:50

CurlewKate · 02/07/2024 13:41

He's sensible adult. He's not a career politician. He has run a big government department. He is open about his intention to carve out time for family life. He doesn't do "knocking copy."

Suits me.

Absolutely. I'm very much looking forward to Keir Starmer being Prime Minister. It isn't an easy task he's taking on but I expect him to form a government of decency and integrity.

ClinkeyMonkey · 02/07/2024 13:49

Something off with him, no rhyme nor reason to my view, just a gut instinct.

Well, gut instinct is a bit rubbish, isn't it? I mean people fancied having Boris Johnson as PM because he seemed like a jolly nice chap, with his quirky use of Latin, his silly hair and his down to earth (ha!) love of a pint down the pub. And various other irrelevant shit that, oh look, turns out doesn't make you a good PM.

neverbeenskiing · 02/07/2024 13:44

cupcaske123 · 02/07/2024 13:27

Sir Keir keeps Friday evenings clear as his wife is Jewish

WTAF is that meant to mean?

Edited

His wife is Jewish and they observe the traditional Shabbat meal which means the family getting together for dinner on Friday evenings. Hence why the governments antisemitism zsar and Jewish groups have criticised the comments.

CurlewKate · 02/07/2024 13:41

He's sensible adult. He's not a career politician. He has run a big government department. He is open about his intention to carve out time for family life. He doesn't do "knocking copy."

Suits me.

fromdownwest · 02/07/2024 13:40

Until power and money is taken out of politics, they can never be truly trusted.

neverbeenskiing · 02/07/2024 13:40

WiseBiscuit · 02/07/2024 11:02

He’s a barrister by trade, they are practiced manipulators and expert liars.

Whereas career politicians have proven themselves to be paragons of honesty and virtue over the last 14 years 🙄

fromdownwest · 02/07/2024 13:39

I can not quite put my finger on it, but I just don't trust him. He comes across as very disingenuous, and a pleaser of the people who are in front of him.

Something off with him, no rhyme nor reason to my view, just a gut instinct.

Thelnebriati · 02/07/2024 13:31

People trying to retain their existing rights are not the ones pushing an agenda.

EasternStandard · 02/07/2024 13:30

@meinkraft mentioned Starmer people can respond to that

Thats to @ilovesooty who always posts as such

Aladdinzane · 02/07/2024 13:30

JaneV1984Madness · 02/07/2024 13:25

@Aladdinzane this subject clearly holds no interest for you.

If it did you would understand the irony of whipping away women's rights and then talking about helping women in with health and policing.

Naivety is a wonderful quality and we need innocence and naivety in this world... But as the safe school alliance states, in our leaders we simply need leaders who will protect children.

The subject of how Starmer will be as PM?

Or are we going to, again, have another thread deralied by GCs and their minority issue?

"If it did you would understand the irony of whipping away women's rights and then talking about helping women in with health and policing."

Where did Starmer say that they would do this? Where is it in the manifesto?

Tell you what? Try talking about health and policing first, rather than the issues you try to raise all the time? You know why? Because issues with these impact millions of women and girls every day, the issues with transpeople don't.

You're a fraud making claims about wanting to help women and girls in bad faith.