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Kier Starmer - what he'll be like as a PM

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Dibbydoos · 02/07/2024 05:34

So this is the first time Ive seen anything written about Kier Starmer and I like the man described.

Am I being unreasonable?

www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/how-keir-starmer-s-past-shows-what-he-would-be-like-as-prime-minister/ar-BB1peeCe?ocid=nl_article_link&cvid=68253a8bd44444739b56e177e78f2264&ei=21

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KatyaKabanova · 02/07/2024 07:23

@CroftonWillow the TUs have not had much control in the party for some time. Momentum are negligible.

KatyaKabanova · 02/07/2024 07:22

A grown up approach to politics
Finally.

Notellinganyone · 02/07/2024 07:21

BusyCM · 02/07/2024 05:37

Well hopefully people will spell his name right fir a start.

I know- bloody annoying.

Whatafustercluck · 02/07/2024 07:19

A friend of mine represents rape victims and met him when he was DPP. She had no expectations of her meeting with him and doesn't take fools gladly. She said he sat and really listened and then listed out the things he would do as a result of what she'd spoken about. He left the room and did exactly what he'd said he'd do. In the all the interviews I've seen with him, I think he displays the values and qualities described in the article. It's time for a more grown up approach to politics.

Superhansrantowindsor · 02/07/2024 07:19

Shite.

Staplerandstappler · 02/07/2024 07:18

Sounds like the adults will be back in charge very shortly.

Sensible, committed, intelligent, a serious person, after the circus we’ve had since 2019.

Loonancy · 02/07/2024 07:18

BusyCM · 02/07/2024 05:37

Well hopefully people will spell his name right fir a start.

Spell much?

HRTQueen · 02/07/2024 07:15

Intelligent, focused, hard working, empathetic, not ideology led and serious

Thats exactly what I want in a PM

The left of the party are thankfully back on the back benches they will often be a thorn in any labour PM’s side and he has already shown how he shall manage them

bergamotorange · 02/07/2024 07:08

CroftonWillow · 02/07/2024 07:02

Well obviously Angela Rayner but more influential are the organisations like Momentum, the Socialist campaign group and the trade unions who back and shape the party.

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Momentum??!
You have not watched events since 2019.

The TUs have no more power over Starmer than they did Blair, and the unions were pretty grumpy about Blair!

And how would Rayner have more influence next week than this? Deputies are deputies.

CroftonWillow · 02/07/2024 07:02

JacquesHarlow · 02/07/2024 06:55

Name five of these strong voices, and their position in the Labour organisation. I'd love to hear it.

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Well obviously Angela Rayner but more influential are the organisations like Momentum, the Socialist campaign group and the trade unions who back and shape the party.

Yourloveissuchaswamp · 02/07/2024 07:02

@JacquesHarlow you are so naive. He said he would protect ‘women’s’ spaces - he also says trans women are women. So it’s a nice little bit of manipulating speech to keep women like you happy. Single sex space protection is what is needed.

bergamotorange · 02/07/2024 07:02

BusyCM · 02/07/2024 06:50

My useful comment is that if you like and respect someone enough to vote for them, and share articles that show them in a positive light to enough others to like and vote for them, then the very least you can do is spell their 4-letter name correctly.

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I don't agree your comment was useful. It also wasn't interesting!

bergamotorange · 02/07/2024 06:59

CroftonWillow · 02/07/2024 06:50

He'll start well but it won't be long before he becomes a puppet of the left of the party.

Can you name these people you think he'll be a puppet of??

This is a fictional fear - who are you imagining?

JacquesHarlow · 02/07/2024 06:59

KoiKoiKoi · 02/07/2024 06:56

You think? I think we'll be at war with Russia within a few months if they get in.

We'll also have perverts in our toilets and changing rooms and probably be arrested for even thinking about speaking out about it. That's the lefts usual stance, isn't it, fascism?

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This is why I can't bring myself to watch GB News.

SheldontheWonderSchlong · 02/07/2024 06:56

@JacquesHarlow

He says 'safe spaces' not single sex spaces.
And if he includes men in the category of women, which he does, then it's all moot anyway.

KoiKoiKoi · 02/07/2024 06:56

JacquesHarlow · 02/07/2024 06:44

Fully agree @Spacecrispsnack .

The Left has had it in for him for years trying to paint him as New Labour or whatever, and what's so frustrating is, he is actually no Blair.... I think Keir is actually far more socialist and principled that the Left would give him credit for.

What is great about him is his discipline and fairness. He recognised Labour has to be a broader church, more inclusive and professional. Five years ago it was pretty much a party of protest, led by one of the great protest MPs of recent times. I think he's done a remarkable job of transforming it into a very professional, focused unit of people who are ready to do good for Britain.

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You think? I think we'll be at war with Russia within a few months if they get in.

We'll also have perverts in our toilets and changing rooms and probably be arrested for even thinking about speaking out about it. That's the lefts usual stance, isn't it, fascism?

JacquesHarlow · 02/07/2024 06:55

CroftonWillow · 02/07/2024 06:53

Strong voices around him though. Stronger than his own convictions.

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Name five of these strong voices, and their position in the Labour organisation. I'd love to hear it.

JacquesHarlow · 02/07/2024 06:55

CroftonWillow · 02/07/2024 06:50

He'll start well but it won't be long before he becomes a puppet of the left of the party.

That's an extraordinary assumption, and the kind of thing which is amusingly being peddled by the losing Tories as a desperate attempt to scare folk away from him.

What's fascinating is how little the modern Labour party is understood. For Keir to become a "puppet", there would have to be strong and scary puppet masters in the background.

The actual reality is that if Keir becomes PM, the same setup we see at the NEC and conference, will continue. Many frustrated Left wing activists will bite their tongue and fall into line for the promise of power or patronage. Others will mouth off on TV, and find their influence wane etc.

There isn't a shadow government or a Left-wing cabal waiting to pull Keir into line. Please can people stop peddling this stuff... it's just weird.

CroftonWillow · 02/07/2024 06:53

KatyaKabanova · 02/07/2024 06:52

I think he's too intelligent for that. He's not a millionaire who's doing it for kicks. He's got scruples.

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Strong voices around him though. Stronger than his own convictions.

KatyaKabanova · 02/07/2024 06:52

CroftonWillow · 02/07/2024 06:50

He'll start well but it won't be long before he becomes a puppet of the left of the party.

I think he's too intelligent for that. He's not a millionaire who's doing it for kicks. He's got scruples.

JacquesHarlow · 02/07/2024 06:52

BusyCM · 02/07/2024 06:50

My useful comment is that if you like and respect someone enough to vote for them, and share articles that show them in a positive light to enough others to like and vote for them, then the very least you can do is spell their 4-letter name correctly.

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My useful comment is that this is pure pedantry. And that the OP's first post has far more value in it, than a bunch of auto-correct attempts below the line.

LoudSnoringDog · 02/07/2024 06:51

I like him. I'm sick of the bullshitting.

I read that piece this morning on Twitter and felt that he seems genuine.
I cannot abide Sunaks mock pathetic gestures a moment longer

bergamotorange · 02/07/2024 06:51

BusyCM · 02/07/2024 05:37

Well hopefully people will spell his name right fir a start.

It is terribly bad manners to criticise spelling.

CroftonWillow · 02/07/2024 06:50

He'll start well but it won't be long before he becomes a puppet of the left of the party.

BusyCM · 02/07/2024 06:50

RedOrBlueOrYellow · 02/07/2024 06:01

So do you actually have anything useful to add? Or just silly comments at others?

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My useful comment is that if you like and respect someone enough to vote for them, and share articles that show them in a positive light to enough others to like and vote for them, then the very least you can do is spell their 4-letter name correctly.