Kier Starmer - what he'll be like as a PM

Yet again the GCs with their obsession have derailed another thread.

Listen carefully, the vast majority of people don't care about your minority issue and are sick of hearing your dogmatic shite. Literally, go look at the things that people list as their most important issues in this election, your obsession is at the very bottom, and probably only there because polling companies listed it, rather than people putting it on themselves.

You know why no one cares? Because it impacts so few people. But here year after year here you are filling up tens of thousands of threads with millions of words.

You don't convince anyone that it's about safety of women and girls , because there are far bigger issues that impact the safety of millions of women and girls on a day to day basis, and you aren't campaigning vociferously on those.

You want to know about the safety of girls in school? Go read "Everyone's invited", few if any stories of transwomen/girls in toilets there. Huge issues over girls safety in schools though.

Want to care about the safety of women? Go look at the investigations into the Met and other organisations where sexism is rampant.

Go look at the courts system and how many reported rapes get convictions. Thousands upon thousands of them going without punishment.

You want to talk about women's spaces? Lets talk about how funding cuts have led to thousands of women being turned away from women's refuges? Want to talk about prisons? There are only 4 transwomen in women's prisons and there hasn't been any kind of assault by one since 2020. Lets talk about the issues that get women sent to prison and with their rehabilitation afterwards? No,?

Want to talk about the safety of women at work? Please! Let's talk about how the removal of legal aid from employment tribunals has disproportionately disadvantaged women in the work place, especially with cases of sexism and sexual harassment.

But oh no, none of these generate the same furore in you, it's the trans bogeyman and that alone.

It's very clear.

You are frauds, arguing in bad faith for the safety of women and girls to cover some other issue.

I've said it before, like Tommy Robinson arguing that he cares about women and girls, he doesn't and we all see him and what he is really about.

You are no better than he is.

I actually find you morally abhorrent. Because you make this claims, how dare you claim you are about the safety of women and girls when there are so many larger issues that impact them and this is the thing you have spent years posting about. How dare you say that this will be the reason you don't vote for one party and cast your vote for the other major party which has brought changes that have massively ( and disproportionately) impacted women and girls.

You are certainly intellectually lacking because the rote learned points that you make are so easy to see through.

The best thing ever though, for all the hot air and millions of words you have posted here? Your impact has been tiny and mostly non existent.

Everyone can see through you.

Not how dare women.

The majority of women don't think your obsession is the biggest issue facing women at the moment.

Claiming that you speak for all women is incorrect.

Just seeing those how dare women post rants yep

Yet again the GCs with their obsession have derailed another thread.

Listen carefully, the vast majority of people don't care about your minority issue and are sick of hearing your dogmatic shite. Literally, go look at the things that people list as their most important issues in this election, your obsession is at the very bottom, and probably only there because polling companies listed it, rather than people putting it on themselves.

You know why no one cares? Because it impacts so few people. But here year after year here you are filling up tens of thousands of threads with millions of words.

You don't convince anyone that it's about safety of women and girls , because there are far bigger issues that impact the safety of millions of women and girls on a day to day basis, and you aren't campaigning vociferously on those.

You want to know about the safety of girls in school? Go read "Everyone's invited", few if any stories of transwomen/girls in toilets there. Huge issues over girls safety in schools though.

Want to care about the safety of women? Go look at the investigations into the Met and other organisations where sexism is rampant.

Go look at the courts system and how many reported rapes get convictions. Thousands upon thousands of them going without punishment.

You want to talk about women's spaces? Lets talk about how funding cuts have led to thousands of women being turned away from women's refuges? Want to talk about prisons? There are only 4 transwomen in women's prisons and there hasn't been any kind of assault by one since 2020. Lets talk about the issues that get women sent to prison and with their rehabilitation afterwards? No,?

Want to talk about the safety of women at work? Please! Let's talk about how the removal of legal aid from employment tribunals has disproportionately disadvantaged women in the work place, especially with cases of sexism and sexual harassment.

But oh no, none of these generate the same furore in you, it's the trans bogeyman and that alone.

It's very clear.

You are frauds, arguing in bad faith for the safety of women and girls to cover some other issue.

I've said it before, like Tommy Robinson arguing that he cares about women and girls, he doesn't and we all see him and what he is really about.

You are no better than he is.

I actually find you morally abhorrent. Because you make this claims, how dare you claim you are about the safety of women and girls when there are so many larger issues that impact them and this is the thing you have spent years posting about. How dare you say that this will be the reason you don't vote for one party and cast your vote for the other major party which has brought changes that have massively ( and disproportionately) impacted women and girls.

You are certainly intellectually lacking because the rote learned points that you make are so easy to see through.

The best thing ever though, for all the hot air and millions of words you have posted here? Your impact has been tiny and mostly non existent.

Everyone can see through you.

Just seeing those how dare women post rants yep

We’re doomed

Yet again the GCs with their obsession have derailed another thread.

Listen carefully, the vast majority of people don't care about your minority issue and are sick of hearing your dogmatic shite. Literally, go look at the things that people list as their most important issues in this election, your obsession is at the very bottom, and probably only there because polling companies listed it, rather than people putting it on themselves.

You know why no one cares? Because it impacts so few people. But here year after year here you are filling up tens of thousands of threads with millions of words.

You don't convince anyone that it's about safety of women and girls , because there are far bigger issues that impact the safety of millions of women and girls on a day to day basis, and you aren't campaigning vociferously on those.

You want to know about the safety of girls in school? Go read "Everyone's invited", few if any stories of transwomen/girls in toilets there. Huge issues over girls safety in schools though.

Want to care about the safety of women? Go look at the investigations into the Met and other organisations where sexism is rampant.

Go look at the courts system and how many reported rapes get convictions. Thousands upon thousands of them going without punishment.

You want to talk about women's spaces? Lets talk about how funding cuts have led to thousands of women being turned away from women's refuges? Want to talk about prisons? There are only 4 transwomen in women's prisons and there hasn't been any kind of assault by one since 2020. Lets talk about the issues that get women sent to prison and with their rehabilitation afterwards? No,?

Want to talk about the safety of women at work? Please! Let's talk about how the removal of legal aid from employment tribunals has disproportionately disadvantaged women in the work place, especially with cases of sexism and sexual harassment.

But oh no, none of these generate the same furore in you, it's the trans bogeyman and that alone.

It's very clear.

You are frauds, arguing in bad faith for the safety of women and girls to cover some other issue.

I've said it before, like Tommy Robinson arguing that he cares about women and girls, he doesn't and we all see him and what he is really about.

You are no better than he is.

I actually find you morally abhorrent. Because you make this claims, how dare you claim you are about the safety of women and girls when there are so many larger issues that impact them and this is the thing you have spent years posting about. How dare you say that this will be the reason you don't vote for one party and cast your vote for the other major party which has brought changes that have massively ( and disproportionately) impacted women and girls.

You are certainly intellectually lacking because the rote learned points that you make are so easy to see through.

The best thing ever though, for all the hot air and millions of words you have posted here? Your impact has been tiny and mostly non existent.

Everyone can see through you.

'Those of us born a woman might say we have ovaries and a womb or we can child bear, but trans men have all of those organs and ability so a biological explanation doesn't work.'

Yes but I don't think you'd find anyone saying transmen are men either, they are transmen. Genitals and organs do define sex. How one dresses and behaves is a different thing completely.

It's crazy that the very simple solution of having mens facilities called gender neutral hasn't been implemented.

My useful comment is that if you like and respect someone enough to vote for them, and share articles that show them in a positive light to enough others to like and vote for them, then the very least you can do is spell their 4-letter name correctly.

@EasternStandard

"Fine by me. I don’t think women are the barrier to third spaces as single sex spaces are then protected

It tends to be TRA opposition there"

Honestly, I've no idea about TRA opposition or anything else.

I am purely looking at this from a practical viewpoint.

And what may be workable, for all concerned.

I understand he's a big football fan, I imagine it's not very easy for him to just rock up into the general stands so accepts hospitality.

It's all been declared properly, I can't get too worked up about it

It is a pity Starmer accepted those free football tickets. What was the point of that?