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Giving house to step-daughter?

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IsMadl · 02/07/2024 00:15

Hi all, I have one step-daughter, no biological children (could never have any). My step-daughter is 27, she got married last summer, and is expecting her first baby. Her dad and I got together when she was 10 (her mum passed away when she was 7), we married when she was 16 and have been together happily since.

Before her dad and I married I had a 3 bed semi, we live in the North but it recently got valued at £300,000. We have been renting it out since I moved in here 12 years ago. The money has funded mostly my pension and odds and ends here. I'm a primary teacher though so have a good pension as it is.

SD and her husband have been saving really hard for a house, they earn well, she in the civil service and he in finance, but they work in London and obviously it is expensive. She had about £150,000 from her mum (-uni costs, wedding costs etc.) and they are saving.
Currently the house I had is to be split between my niece and nephew when I die, the house I live in now will go to step-daughter when both dad and I pass.

To me my step-daughter is my own, I was never able to have children of my own and I think she is incredible, so smart, beautiful, funny and caring. I hate seeing her struggle to build the deposit for a nice house, in a nice area with a garden which is all she really wants. I've been thinking maybe it is time I sell the house and give her the profit, obviously it would up there deposit massively. I wouldn't do it if I didn't think she and her DH had earned it but they are lovely, kind, hardworking people.

I told my husband and he said that it would be a lovely thing to do but no pressure as it is mine. My mum and dad think it would be a horrendous idea.

AIBU to consider this?

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PoopingAllTheWay · 02/07/2024 03:20

I would sell and give her half the money, so £150,000 ish. Which is still a huge amount and you still have money for yourself if anything was to happen, divorce, needing major surgery (going private), lovely holidays, a better pension pot etc)

7yo7yo · 02/07/2024 03:14

I would keep £50,000 for you, £50,000 each for niece and nephew and the remainder (minus fees) to SD.
That way you are matching what she already has.
I would also ask that any contribution is ring fenced so that in the event of a divorce she is protected.

Zippedeedooda · 02/07/2024 02:31

I don’t agree that your blood relatives have any more rights over the house than your step daughter and tbh I don’t think it’s any of your families business anyway. you’ve looked after your SD for so many years surely you are closer to her

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I wouldn’t sell it and give the money to her now as you have no idea what the future holds for you. What happens if you split from your dh, these things do happen.

Keep your house and leave it to your SD in your will. I wouldn’t tell anyone what’s in your will though it’s none of their business.

ILoveToCleanSaidNooneEver · 02/07/2024 02:04

I suppose it depends on how much your niece and nephews have/will have. If they are set for a nice inheritance from their parents, fair enough. If not, I'd rethink.

I have a DSD who will inherit from both her dad and her mum. I also have 3 nieces who will not inherit from my sister. Therefore, half of our estate goes to my nieces.

IReallyStillCantBeBothered · 02/07/2024 01:50

Lilacapples · 02/07/2024 00:24

In that case if your niece and nephew don’t kind then absolutely help your step daughter out now. It’s nothing to do with your parents.

I agree with you. One concern I have is her parents leaking the original plan to the niece and nephew to cause conflict within the family. It shouldn’t stop OP but it’s something to think about and maybe plan for. Hopefully her parents will not stoop that low.

OP should also consider still gifting her niece and nephew something, maybe split it across 3 of them or something.

DaniMontyRae · 02/07/2024 01:45

You could make a smaller gift of say 25k each to niece and nephew, 200k to stepdaughter and keep 50k for yourself.

Things to consider are - whether you are putting your own financial stability at risk (pensions don't go far, you get divorced etc), whether your SD has good financial sense (how much of the 150k has she got left, did she spend 20k on wedding vs 75k etc) and what happens if your SD gets divorced.

ViciousCurrentBun · 02/07/2024 01:43

This is a perfect example of why you never ever share the contents of your will or any financial details with anyone but your partner and even then I would say there are some cases where not advisable though a minority.

I would probably sell if I could afford to give all or most of the money away but really look at my own situation first. Half to SD and then 25% to each niece and nephew.

ZoeCM · 02/07/2024 01:34

OP, you sound like a fantastic stepmum. Your stepdaughter is lucky to have you. Your parents need to mind their own business.

wordler · 02/07/2024 01:34

I would split it three ways - say you get 300,000 total.

I'd keep 50,000 in a high interest savings account for yourself - a little bit of future proofing.

Give your niece and nephew 25,000 each - you didn't say what age they are but either given directly or put in a savings account for when they become adults.

That's a very nice chunk of money to get from an aunt. And giving it them now means you have the pleasure of helping them earlier in their lives.

Give your step-daughter $200,000 towards her deposit - that's a very nice lump sum and will help a lot. It's a very lovely thing to do. But as a PP said - try to see if there's a way to ring fence it for her own benefit in case something happens to her DH.

urbanbuddha · 02/07/2024 01:33

It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. You could give the lion’s share to your stepdaughter and keep some savings which could pass to your niece and nephew.

BabyFedUp445 · 02/07/2024 01:21

Are you saying you want to give her this now rather than in your will? Sorry but that's a bad idea. I don't think pensioners have a very bright future, care costs are huge and that house could make an enormous difference for you. As a teacher, you have a good pension but by no means excellent or keeping up with inflation. She already has 150k, her partner works in finance. Give her a cash gift but to give the majority of what you make from.selling that house now is bonkers.

saraclara · 02/07/2024 01:14

How close are you to your niece and nephew?

I'm concerned that your parents might blab to your siblings, if they know that you originally planned to leave your house to your niece and nephew.

They're their grandparents so they love them, and of course they want the best for them and might be upset that you've changed your mind.
(If they didn't know of your original intention, then they've less reason to be upset though).

My grandma side suggests that you do as a pp said, and give two thirds to your SD and split the other third with the niece and nephew. There's no reason for you to have to, but, assuming they're decent people, it'd be a nice gesture.

My late husband's aunt has me in her will, and is being as generous to me as she is to her niece by blood. I find that really touching. I'd never have expected it.

Pallisers · 02/07/2024 01:13

This is your property. You decide who it goes to.

Remove all the noise of your parents and the blood family etc from the question. They are unreasonable. In your case - being with a motherless child since she was 10 and married to her dad for more than 10 years with no other children - if you were my child, I'd presume you were likely to leave anything you had to her.

Your stepdaughter is close to you. Ask yourself how best to structure your finances to support her while protecting her. As in, don't just hand over the proceeds of your house. Figure out how to give it to her so if she and her dh divorce she is protected and you are protected. I wouldn't give my children a deposit that big without having some legal counsel about how to ringfence the money for her - and for you.

hellywelly3 · 02/07/2024 01:13

Definitely do it. See if it could be ring fenced incase of divorce though.

downtownlights · 02/07/2024 01:07

LlamaTwirl · 02/07/2024 00:53

I think I would give the majority to my SD but give a token small amount to both niece and nephew (unless they are terrible people). I would also (if I had the means and opportunity) do this for them all whilst they are young enough to really appreciate the help rather than them be at retirement age themselves (hopefully they won't need a helping hand by that time in their lives) ..

I agree with this — sell up and share it out with the majority going to your step daughter.

RedToothBrush · 02/07/2024 01:01

What the fuck has it got to do with your parents?

This is who you consider to be your daughter. Your parents not recognising this are utterly disrespectful.

I am willing to be you don't see your niece and nephew as often as your daughter. And you don't have a relationship as close.

As for the biological bit. Wow.

Say to save on arguments you are now going to donate your estate to a cat charity. And see how they react.

TheSquareMile · 02/07/2024 01:01

I would take advice from a solicitor before going through with the plans you have outlined.

https://solicitors.lawsociety.org.uk/

LlamaTwirl · 02/07/2024 00:53

I think I would give the majority to my SD but give a token small amount to both niece and nephew (unless they are terrible people). I would also (if I had the means and opportunity) do this for them all whilst they are young enough to really appreciate the help rather than them be at retirement age themselves (hopefully they won't need a helping hand by that time in their lives) ..

MrsSkylerWhite · 02/07/2024 00:52

It’s your legacy. Do what makes you happy.

Shelby2010 · 02/07/2024 00:50

Perhaps a compromise would be to give SD £200,000 from the sale of the house. Invest the other £100,000 as a back up should you need it, but if you don’t use it, it goes to your niece & nephew.

Jamieie · 02/07/2024 00:42

Putting · 02/07/2024 00:35

Most people don’t lose their mother at 7, thankfully.

I think helping her out sounds a lovely thing to do - and I agree with a previous poster that she sounds a more natural recipient than your niece and nephew.

Yeah I wasn't making any reference to losing her Mum, I know that's an awful thing. I was just simply saying she isn't in a bad place financially, it's more of a deposit than most people have. Regardless of where it came from.

Putting · 02/07/2024 00:35

Jamieie · 02/07/2024 00:33

It's lovely, but also it doesn't sound like your SD is in a bad place financially if she received £150k. That's more than most people get.

Most people don’t lose their mother at 7, thankfully.

I think helping her out sounds a lovely thing to do - and I agree with a previous poster that she sounds a more natural recipient than your niece and nephew.

Jamieie · 02/07/2024 00:33

It's lovely, but also it doesn't sound like your SD is in a bad place financially if she received £150k. That's more than most people get.

Cornishpasty342 · 02/07/2024 00:31

What a lovely thing to do OP. It’s heartwarming to hear of a positive step-parent relationship. Your DPs sound unpleasant by their reaction. My uncle is adopted and therefore not a blood relative but we have never viewed him as anything but a family member and we would all be horrified if anyone took this view. I’m sorry your DPs don’t support your relationship with SD.

TheSixQuarks · 02/07/2024 00:29

I think your SD sounds like a more natural recipient than your niece and nephew. Very lovely to read this angle on step-relationships.