To not want to ‘sit in the park’ on a second date?

I have never carried a baby - it is a choice you know - and I actually couldn't care less what anyone else gets paid. Incidentally, I had two bosses in my most recent job, a man and a woman, and believe it or not they were paid the same hourly rate. In my early married years I was paid more than my husband, who actually had a more responsible job than I did. You seem to think you know everything, sorry to break the bad news, but you DON'T. You are more delusional than I am, and be careful you don't trip on that massive chip on your shoulder.

Funny how women expect to be treated as equals in the workplace, but once they walk out the door they want to be treated like Queens and have men running around trying to make them feel special. Do they put the same amount of effort into their relationships as they expect to get from it? Why does the man have to do all the courting in this day and age? Women like that make me cringe, literally.

As for being "desperate", that's a laugh. I am the least desperate person I know - I'm not the one frantically searching for a man on dating apps 😂

There is a level of projection here that is off the charts 😂

How have we escalated a simple walk in the park to 'giving a man everything' and 'the reason society is fucked up!'

I went on a walk during my early dating days, started in Little Venice and followed the canal up through Regents Park and ended up in a lovely cafe for drinks. Found out way more about each other during that walk then during early dates.

The only 'cringe' is the level of vitriol on show because a bloke has not thrown money around at a date. Maybe an early a poster had it right, this is just a test to weed out the gold diggers and parasites.

And yes, he's probably going on a few first/second dates. As is the OP. Buying expensive meals should be saved for further down the line when he's sure this relationship is going somewhere. I'm sure OP isn't taking loads of men out and wining and dining them either.

It's ugly to be desperate and give everything to a man who makes no effort to court you

Christ! It's a walk in the park. She's hardly being asked to "give everything". And in Jane Austin's time a walk round the garden was the perfectly gentlemanly way to court a lady.

I suppose there's not many ladies left these days. Just "fucking Queens".

Don’t know why everyone gets so excited on these threads. Women who are happy sitting in parks and going on walking dates can go on them. Women who enjoy getting dressed up and going to nice bars and restaurants can do that. It’s not grabby and it doesn’t make them prostitutes as insinuated by some here 🙄 In my experience men offering walking dates is usually not a good sign. Usually it’s because they’re not that interested in you, or they’re dusty, broke or mean. I wouldn’t go on this date in a million years and that’s my choice.

I’m an outdoorsy type and a fussy eater. I’d much rather have a walk in the park than having a fancy dinner. It doesn’t need to be money related.

To quote a trope regularly used on MN - have you had the exclusivity chat yet? It's a second date not undying love and wanting to spend eternity together. It's getting to know each other. Perhaps like myself he has hearing loss and a noisy restaurant is not ideal for conversation.

Personally at mid 50s if someone suggested a date in the park and the possibility of going on the swings or a roundabout I'd be up for that, the slide may be tricky but depends how wide it is. We all need some fun in our lives that is why so many people are miserable because they are expected to conform.

Absolutely this. This whole thread really shows that for a huge amount of women feminism never happened!

seems dating is very transactional. How many nice restaurants for a shag?

Your first clue was that he split the bill for two drinks on your first date

Just out of interest how much do you charge for a date?

I wouldn't be personally impressed by this because I enjoy going out to dinner. A dinner date tells you a lot about a person. What sort of food they enjoy, what sort of wine they like, how they treat waitstaff etc.

I'm all for parks but not when you've just started dating someone.

OP I suspect your date is either very tight, broke, or is seeing so many other women he doesn't want to make a big commitment of time or money.

Good heavens, all this talk about money. True, going to a park is inexpensive, but so what?

For example, I like classical music. If I suggested going to the symphony, I hope my date wouldn't be thinking "wow, that's really expensive", and suffer through the perfomance thinking "when does this dreary shit end".

Sorry, for me, anyway, money doesn't have much to do with it. I would be looking for compatibility, companionship, friendship.

Maybe I'm that way because I, and my neighbours, and everyone I know, are okay with money. As far as I can tell, because money is never mentioned.

Sorry to break the bad news but you will NEVER be equal to a man.
Women carry babies, get paid less. You're just delusional and have a low opinion of yourself.

It's ugly to be desperate and give everything to a man who makes no effort to court you. It's embarrassing and the reason society is so f up. A man can take you for a "walk" like a dog and you will just lie on your back and sleep with him easy. Then say you're a "strong woman" no darling you get used and dashed away to the side.
Some women make me cringe literally 😷

Wow, you've got a high opinion of yourself. Some of us would prefer to be in an equal partnership and don't actually see ourselves as "fucking Queens". We don't need men buying us drinks and meals - and hey, I'm even older than you are!! Some posters on this thread seem to think men exist soley to spend money on them - it's like returning to a time many. many decades ago.

I think it's a personality thing. That sounds like my perfect date.
Maybe you aren't well matched

Broke dusty men can stay with the desperate lonely women.

Women with no emotional or insecure issues and men that aren't broke and bummy can date each other.

People want to date outside their calibre of people that's the issue on why men don't want to date women.

No dating hasn't become this but some desperate women out there will accept bottom of the barrel men so think this is acceptable.
Know your worth and cut him off.

Doesn’t appear some bother with a mask in the first place.

This is the thread where women's masks slip and you can see what rhey really want. Its just ugly.

Nice

I’d actually love this - grab coffee and sit and talk and people watch.

I go to the park most days, I will be heading there in a few minutes in fact - haven't been on a slide or swings in decades.

All you are doing is showing that you belong to the lacking in imagination brigade 😂