To not want to ‘sit in the park’ on a second date?

I would love a park date - low pressure, relaxed. I'd much rather a park date than a romantic meal.

Maybe you and he just aren't compatible with your styles? It sounds like you're a bit fancier and he's a bit more casual

Meet each other (work, party, pub, club), talk to each other, like each other, guy says "Can I take you out to dinner?" (and rocks up in a suit)

Dating back in the Jurassic, sorry, the early 1980s. There was also plenty of "I'll get the next round" "shall we go Dutch?" or cooking for each other and yeah, picnics in parks down the line.

Loads of us got with our husbands that way and have at times been main breadwinners, caregivers, anything but "parasites" and "queens". I think the rise of OLD with the endless choice of "menu", low expectations and rapid turnover is a bloody plague if I'm honest, with no offence to those who've made it work. The human race was hardly dying out before it.

True true.

Also that the reason women aren't interested in them is because women are gold-diggers and prostitutes.

I imagine they're the types who would struggle to attract women regardless of money or what date they were offering. They therefore like to impose a whole set of arbitrary rules and requirements of what they expect a woman to be like...they can therefore kid themselves that it's their standards which are keeping them single rather than their shit personalities.

What I don't get about all these blokes who turn up on threads like this (and yes we know which of you are blokes, even if you insist you're "female") is what they're hoping to achieve with this strange and aggressive re-education programme. Do they really think that women will magically become interested in them if they spend 40 pages yelling at us about parks?

There’s nothing ‘wrong’ with it, but it’s not for you.

The thing is as you’re acknowledging here is that dinner dates usually happen when the relationship is going somewhere but men know if they WANT it to go somewhere on the first meet. Men are more visual and if they’re super attracted they’re going to be thinking about how they’re going to get this woman’s time and energy. They’re not going to risk some other guy swooping in especially when they know the woman’s on OLD and dating others so they try to think of things they think would appeal to ensure they get the second date. The really keen ones will be offering options. What they don’t do is say ‘Shall we go sit in the park?’.

Absolutely hilarious that if you want to go out to an actual restaurant or a coffee shop.... you must think you're a queen.

Not quite

The 'queen' reference is to the poster above who explicitly stated that back in her day the onus was on men to treat women on dates 'like fucking queens', i.e. splash out a bit and impress with high end venues and not do low key dates like walks etc.

I think that’s really nice.
I’d rather go for a walk through a lovely park than go to some overpriced, bland, chain restaurant.

Well a particular woman could be infertile or a higher earner - how's the man to know?
Also a lot of women actively don't want kids these days , so won't get paid less (it's a motherhood penalty) what's the rationale for special treatment then

You should ask for £15 to go on the park date

I think this sums it up perfectly for me,
its only date 2 and supposedly UK summer time, the bloke has offered something that is not unreasonable and would historically been seen as perfectly acceptable, the OP could easily counter it her a suggestion of her own ( I’m sure she knows how to use words)

I absolutely love this!!!

A stroll in the park as an introduction to go for some drinks and pizza, yes. Sitting on a bench like when I was 16, no.

There was a thread before about men suggesting a walk as a date when they were expecting sex in the bushes. I wonder if sitting in the park is another euphemism that past me by.

Personally I wouldn't mind, but I think it's an early indication that your tastes and expectations just don't align. Move on.

Absolutely hilarious that if you want to go out to an actual restaurant or a coffee shop.... you must think you're a queen. Seriously, have a word with yourself and get off social media which puts this shite in your head .

Oh and massive sympathies to any woman who is single today...best of luck. And don't expect a cappucino or a pizza....you gold diggers

What makes you think my comment was aimed at you?

And yet again, I couldn't give a stuff.

I haven't sat in my mum's spare room for a good many decades, and I most certainly am not a man. The queens comment came from another poster, who said "women should be treated as the fucking Queens they are", or words to that effect.

Once again, it's all about women's expectations of men - I don't hear anything about men's expectations of women, apparently they aren't supposed to have any but instead are supposed to go all out to impress.

Jane Austin missed a trick here.

Yes when the gender pay gap is discussed everyone understands that some women will be getting paid more than some men ..it's about a societal trend, not individuals. It's not particularly difficult...is it?

Well it's all got a bit incel-y hasn't it?!

I see a lot of posters men sitting in their mum's spare room are getting very angry at the idea of women having any expectations of men....and what's all this talk of queens?! 🤔oh and gold-diggers. I do find it hilarious when average blokes go on and on about women being gold diggers. I mean if you're a billionaire with a yacht and private jet, I understand. But an average guy taking a woman out for a pizza and a glass of wine...stop worrying 😂

Did you not read that I couldn't care less what anyone else gets paid - male or female - only what I get paid?

And yes, I have heard of the gender pay gap, doesn't mean it applies to everyone. For the hard of understanding, not all females get paid less.

Funny how women expect to be treated the same in the workplace, but want "special" treatment in the dating world - as I have already mentioned.

Have you never heard of the gender pay gap? It's not really as simple as oh I earn the same as my male colleague.