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Political letter from my gp telling who to vote for

294 replies

FluffyJellyCat · 01/07/2024 17:11

Is this even allowed? The gp isn't wrong in what he is saying. But how did he get my personal data to write to me? It's a proper letter addressed to me at my address. Could he access my data for a local election?

Conflict of interest? Gdpr? I'm not going to complain because I have enought going on in my life. But surely this isn't allowed?

What next? The schools head telling me who to vote for?

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RubySloth · 01/07/2024 18:02

Terrible, I thought I had a letter from a reform candidate telling me to vote Tory instead of them (not that they were an option) and in the small print says promotion by the Tory candidate. I would normally vote Tory but not this time after such a misleading letter.

Makes me want to vote the opposite way when people keep telling you, who to vote. Why don't people mind their own business

DogInATent · 01/07/2024 18:02

Skyrainlight · 01/07/2024 17:54

It's not perfectly legitimate action! It's a beach of the data protection act. And it's not up to OP to prove where they got her details from, because that is impossible for her to know. It's completely within her rights to register a complaint so that it can be investigated. Stop acting like you wrote the data protection act and know everything when you clearly have no idea.

Prove it's a breach of GDPR. The thread has already identified legitimate sources of this data and legally acceptable reasons for doing it.

Why is it that 99% of the time on MN when someone's spouting off about GDPR they have absolutely no idea what that means or what the regulations and guideline prohibit and allow?

LadyFeatheringt0n · 01/07/2024 18:01

The gp may be a member of a local party, and has written a letter in his own name as a supporter, the party have then mailed this to the address list which they can access. Its not likely to be anything untoward.

Quimjelly · 01/07/2024 18:01

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Ukhotelsareshit · 01/07/2024 18:01

GP? What’s one of those? The ones in my area have been MIA for the last 4 years!!! I literally haven’t been able to get an appointment for years so I would be mightily pissed off if they sent me a letter like this.

littlegrebe · 01/07/2024 18:01

BeaRF75 · 01/07/2024 17:46

That is outrageous. I would expect any medical professional to be publicly impartial. (Obviously they can vote for who they like in the actual secret ballot).

I'm sorry, this is a terrible take. Of course medical professionals are allowed to express their political views in public. Politics isn't a dirty word, it's how we participate in our society. We have a secret ballot so we have no need whatsoever to vote how anyone tells us to whatever perceived power they have.

NetZeroZealot · 01/07/2024 18:01

If it is a formal election communication it will say so somewhere on the letter "Published by ..." I think this is the most likely scenario.

DogInATent · 01/07/2024 17:59

BeaRF75 · 01/07/2024 17:46

That is outrageous. I would expect any medical professional to be publicly impartial. (Obviously they can vote for who they like in the actual secret ballot).

You know there have been several MPs that are GPs?
Why should they not be allowed to stand for public office?

NetZeroZealot · 01/07/2024 17:58

It's probably an election communication from the party and they have obtained an endorsement from a local GP (which they've agreed to be used publicly) and it happens to be your GP.

The Lib Dems have been doing this in my area, and approached a GP friend of mine and he refused to do it!

fliptopbin · 01/07/2024 17:58

Skyrainlight · 01/07/2024 17:54

It's not perfectly legitimate action! It's a beach of the data protection act. And it's not up to OP to prove where they got her details from, because that is impossible for her to know. It's completely within her rights to register a complaint so that it can be investigated. Stop acting like you wrote the data protection act and know everything when you clearly have no idea.

Why would they risk major legal strife by breaking GDPR (which superceded the Data Protection Act) by using their own records, when they can get the information perfectly legally via the electoral roll?

babadumm · 01/07/2024 17:57

I've got letters from local GP in the post too. Not registered with them (multiple GPs in the area). Just a party member/electoral roll thing.

Prawncow · 01/07/2024 17:57

I really hate the term Karen but this thread …

Boomer55 · 01/07/2024 17:57

No, the NHS is in a mess for a variety of reasons - and I wouldn’t be listening to a GP telling me who I should vote for. I’d complain.

Prawncow · 01/07/2024 17:56

Skyrainlight · 01/07/2024 17:54

It's not perfectly legitimate action! It's a beach of the data protection act. And it's not up to OP to prove where they got her details from, because that is impossible for her to know. It's completely within her rights to register a complaint so that it can be investigated. Stop acting like you wrote the data protection act and know everything when you clearly have no idea.

How many times a month do you complain on average?

LakeTiticaca · 01/07/2024 17:56

I will be voting for the party that instructs the GPs to actually see their patients!!

Ioverslept · 01/07/2024 17:56

I think that's out of order and would complain. My former union used to do that do I changed to another one!

listsandbudgets · 01/07/2024 17:54

Local party agent - Right we need someone to write to local residents about appalling state of NHS and endorse our candidate ... needs to be someone they'll respect and who has knowledge about NHS...

Consults membership list... aha Dr. Bloggs local GP excellent just drop him an email to ask if we can draft something for him to put his name to..

Great he said yes, write letter get him to check it over... time for a mail merge and envelope stuffing session... Off it all goes to the sorting office..... NHS... TICK

Next... education... hmmm ... consults membership list - aha... Ms. Jones is a teacher.....

And so it goes on. I very much doubt that your GP is going through the surgery records and writing you all letters...

Skyrainlight · 01/07/2024 17:54

JurassicClark · 01/07/2024 17:42

For the third time, you have no idea how they obtained the addresses.

The first action, if you are bothered, is to contact to surgery and ask.

Assorted professional groups, campaigners, interested people have run letter-writing campaigns to voters in swing seats, outlining the reasons to vote one way or another at many elections in the past.

I remember The Guardian handing out voter roll addresses to somewhere Trump had support for people to write to to beg them to reconsider. (High handed and arrogant action that unsurprisingly backfired).

I’m honestly surprised this has shocked people. It’s a legitimate campaign tool.

If the GP Practice believed the only way to protect their services is to vote (whatever) and they write to the local community residents about that, it may offend your sensibilities but it’s a perfectly legitimate action.

It's not perfectly legitimate action! It's a beach of the data protection act. And it's not up to OP to prove where they got her details from, because that is impossible for her to know. It's completely within her rights to register a complaint so that it can be investigated. Stop acting like you wrote the data protection act and know everything when you clearly have no idea.

dangermouseisace · 01/07/2024 17:53

A GP in my area is standing for election for one of the big parties. I wonder if it’s them?

schloss · 01/07/2024 17:52

CaptainMyCaptain · 01/07/2024 17:25

It's not unreasonable for a Health care provider or a school to ask people to consider voting for the party most likely to fund them properly. Nobody will know who you actually vote for.

It is totally unreasonable. It is not in the remit of a GP or school to try and influence how people vote.

FortunataTagnips · 01/07/2024 17:52

And obviously it’s from the electoral roll on behalf of the party, not scraped from the practice’s patient list.

FortunataTagnips · 01/07/2024 17:51

BeaRF75 · 01/07/2024 17:46

That is outrageous. I would expect any medical professional to be publicly impartial. (Obviously they can vote for who they like in the actual secret ballot).

Why?

WhereIsTheHare · 01/07/2024 17:49

Anyone can access the electoral roll.

If you haven’t opted out via your annual voter registration form, then your details will appear on the marketing version of the electoral roll, which is bought by companies all over the place to access details for marketing purposes.

If you have opted out, your details still have to appear by law on the full version of the roll, held by your local election authority. This can be inspected in person. I have used this before now to find people at addresses I need to reach for work - all fully legitimately.

No GP is using patient records to send out mail shots in support of political parties. Either they have put together a mailing list via the electoral roll, or much more likely, they have given their support to one of the parties who are using them as part of one of their mail shots. Each party is entitled to one free one, all using names and addresses taken from the full electoral roll.

BeaRF75 · 01/07/2024 17:49

Not all medics think the same. I know many who think the NHS in its current form should be killed off ASAP. As a group, they vote for all parties. As individuals, they should not be making their preferences public.

Namechangedagain20 · 01/07/2024 17:48

The school I work at sent out an email before brexit basically telling everyone to vote remain, it went out to all staff and a letter went out to parents as well. This isn’t anything new, it might not be commonly done but it’s not illegal or breaking any rules. It’s basically just a form of campaigning, you don’t have to listen to it.