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to not understand people who never ask reciprocal questions in a conversation?

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BlownItJellyHead · 01/07/2024 15:14

It's just so bloody strange. How can they not just do it reflexively? Do they genuinely have that little interest in finding out about other people? I'm not talking about people with ND issues or people with a lot on their mind at a specific time. I mean people who just generally don't ask questions.

I just don't get it at all. It goes without saying that its rude and indicative of some level of self-obsession. But, I just don't understand how they can do it. It's so bloody odd to me. Even if I don't have that much interest in the other person, I reciprocate questions reflexively, and I always find I'm interested in something about them.

Yesterday I was out with a friend for three hours - I asked about her work, her mum, her health, her plans for summer gardening, her partner, her pets, as well as follow-up questions off the back of things we were talking about.

She asked me nothing 😂😂😂

What is it with these people?!

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MoonWoman69 · 01/07/2024 21:00

@IPoopRainblows Well I was misinformed by another Mumsnetter a long time ago, when I asked, then!
I think I prefer 'full thread' to be honest! 😁

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 01/07/2024 20:56

I have a "friend" like this - she is so busy telling me how amazing her kids are and how glad she is that her husband left her, she jist diesn't have tine to ask how my sister who is going through breast cancer treatment is or my mum who has been very poorly. Just too self absorbed.

IPoopRainblows · 01/07/2024 20:52

MoonWoman69 · 01/07/2024 20:46

Just to point out, RTFT is actually read the full thread, not fucking thread! 🙄

People seem to have twisted @BlownItJellyHeads post. It's nothing to do with bombarding someone with questions, like the Spanish Inquisition! I interpreted it to be about general back and forth flow of conversation, about whatever is going on in each others lives. When you're chatting to someone you know, that's what usually happens. But there are a lot of people who don't converse like that, it's all one way and it's plain rude. (Past trauma/ND etc aside).
In normal conversation, you don't cherry pick the subjects to talk about! You find someone talking about their family/holiday/next doors dog boring? So what? The conversation moves on usually. You probably discuss things that are boring to them too! It's how talking works!
I've noticed a lot of people on MN jump onto posts like this, immediately offended and confrontational! Or show up, in their sarky comments, that they are exactly the type of person OP is talking about!

No it means read the fucking thread.

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MoonWoman69 · 01/07/2024 20:46

Just to point out, RTFT is actually read the full thread, not fucking thread! 🙄

People seem to have twisted @BlownItJellyHeads post. It's nothing to do with bombarding someone with questions, like the Spanish Inquisition! I interpreted it to be about general back and forth flow of conversation, about whatever is going on in each others lives. When you're chatting to someone you know, that's what usually happens. But there are a lot of people who don't converse like that, it's all one way and it's plain rude. (Past trauma/ND etc aside).
In normal conversation, you don't cherry pick the subjects to talk about! You find someone talking about their family/holiday/next doors dog boring? So what? The conversation moves on usually. You probably discuss things that are boring to them too! It's how talking works!
I've noticed a lot of people on MN jump onto posts like this, immediately offended and confrontational! Or show up, in their sarky comments, that they are exactly the type of person OP is talking about!

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 01/07/2024 20:43

You misunderstand me, @Spotsorstripesor. My conversations are not one sided but they are not predominantly question based. It's possible to bounce off each other without asking personal questions that might put someone on the spot.

bryceQ · 01/07/2024 20:42

It's like this with my dad, I leave knowing everything about his life, every detail of what's going on, I know the name of his work colleagues, what he had for dinner... He learns nothing about me. He sometimes asks me a question and then interrupts me to redirect it back to himself. Or I finally answer and he says nothing, I call them conversation cul de sacs.... So I then have to ask if he's watching anything good on Netflix or another mundane question. It's really tiring and frustrating. I don't get why he isn't more interested in my life. It always hurts.

Spotsorstripesor · 01/07/2024 20:42

Mary1234567 · 01/07/2024 20:16

I definitely know what you mean and I used to be the exact same as you and have a real bea in my bonnet about it with some friends. However I then went through a bit of a difficult and embarrassing time a few years ago with my life and mental health, and I suddenly found people asking questions (even inane ones like what did you do this weekend) really annoying and I’ve since completely changed my perspective on this. Basically, questions force the conversation to a particular topic that the person might not want to answer, but it is difficult to avoid because you have asked, so it is uncomfortable and too directive. If you make comments instead, and then leave pauses, it allows the conversation partner to choose what they are comfortable to bring to the table. I try to show my interest and lack of self obsession by my eye contact and facial expression when they do volunteer any stories, but I don’t ask questions generally in a convo. Could it be the person you are thinking of does care about what you say but just prefers not to direct conversations with questions? (That said- trust your gut- some people just are self obsessed.)

I think follow up questions are great for this. You let your conversation partner bring up a topic but show interest by asking a follow up question (instead of immediately bringing the conversation back to your stuff)

IPoopRainblows · 01/07/2024 20:38

ichundich · 01/07/2024 18:33

Hos do you make friends if all your conversations with new people are so one-sided?

The topic, nor my response is about engaging with new people, it’s regarding conversations with friends.

Spotsorstripesor · 01/07/2024 20:38

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 01/07/2024 19:34

Possibly. If it were me in that situation, I would probably find it uncomfortable rather than rude. We are conditioned to believe that neurotypical communication styles are the gold standard so we're probably more likely to blame ourselves for getting it wrong than consider the other person rude but it's a good example of how communication styles clash.

There's an autistic woman I follow on TikTok that explains it in a way that I relate to. She describes NT conversations as one where you repeatedly throw the 'ball' to each other so you throw someone a question and expect them to throw it back. ND people don't do this. We prefer to talk about something that interests us and wait for the other person to be ready to take the ball when they feel comfortable to chip in. That way we aren't putting them under pressure to perform on a subject of our choosing and not theirs. Conversations flow but they're structured differently.

To me this makes perfect sense. To someone who's been socialised to throw the ball back and forth, it seems strange.

The back and forth is about showing interest in/care for the person you are talking to. Questions are one way to do it but it doesn’t have to be questions. It can be enthusiasm about something the other person brings up, or sensitivity to the fact that a topic seems to be a tricky one, or telling them something you know will interest them. Conversation is an art. There are people (ND and otherwise) who prefer to talk at/past each other, but imo that is not really a conversation.

Compash · 01/07/2024 20:26

ThoseDarnCrows · 01/07/2024 15:41

Well it seems I am one of 'these people' as you so charmingly put it. As a child , and throughout my life until my fifties I was browbeaten and berated regularly by my parent to 'not be nosy', mind your own business', 'what's it got to do with you' , why do you think they want you to know'....... and on and on and on, until I had no self esteem and was scared stiff of asking anybody anything in case I was judged as that awful nosy person I was constantly told I was.

So no, it is not necessarily the me, me, me scenario, and not because we don't want to know. It's taken me another decade since they have no longer been in my life to believe in myself and actually push myself to ask people those - what are to you - simple questions.

So OP, get off your high horse and actually think about what that non-reciprocal person may actual have gone, or still be going through.

Yes, this - my mother started early with the death glares if I spoke up in a conversation - even if I were just answering questions that I'd been asked! - and would pull me aside to hiss 'You're embarrassing me!' I got the message it was the height of rudeness to ask 'nosey' questions.

It took until much later to realise she was a narcissist who wanted to be hogging the conversation herself... and even longer to consciously train myself out of it and allow me to ask the questions I wanted. But now I am often the victim of a one-way conversational blast!

I also think there was a generation who DID think it was nosey to ask questions, or who just weren't confident about it, or thought it was 'rude to interrupt', or that 'little girls should be seen and not heard'.

('But I say "OH BONDAGE, UP YOURS!''') (Spot the quote... 😁)

ohisay · 01/07/2024 20:26

I read the beginning of the thread thinking we have a friend in common!
I get where you're coming from, it's natural to me if someone asks about work/partner/pets whatever, that you ask in return.
I have a friend who honestly doesn't come up for air when you meet, it's just a barrage of what's going on for her.
I'm not joking when I say I could meet for an hour and say a handful of words - my eldest child counted once!
Like others have said, it's just different folks!

Mary1234567 · 01/07/2024 20:16

BlownItJellyHead · 01/07/2024 15:14

It's just so bloody strange. How can they not just do it reflexively? Do they genuinely have that little interest in finding out about other people? I'm not talking about people with ND issues or people with a lot on their mind at a specific time. I mean people who just generally don't ask questions.

I just don't get it at all. It goes without saying that its rude and indicative of some level of self-obsession. But, I just don't understand how they can do it. It's so bloody odd to me. Even if I don't have that much interest in the other person, I reciprocate questions reflexively, and I always find I'm interested in something about them.

Yesterday I was out with a friend for three hours - I asked about her work, her mum, her health, her plans for summer gardening, her partner, her pets, as well as follow-up questions off the back of things we were talking about.

She asked me nothing 😂😂😂

What is it with these people?!

I definitely know what you mean and I used to be the exact same as you and have a real bea in my bonnet about it with some friends. However I then went through a bit of a difficult and embarrassing time a few years ago with my life and mental health, and I suddenly found people asking questions (even inane ones like what did you do this weekend) really annoying and I’ve since completely changed my perspective on this. Basically, questions force the conversation to a particular topic that the person might not want to answer, but it is difficult to avoid because you have asked, so it is uncomfortable and too directive. If you make comments instead, and then leave pauses, it allows the conversation partner to choose what they are comfortable to bring to the table. I try to show my interest and lack of self obsession by my eye contact and facial expression when they do volunteer any stories, but I don’t ask questions generally in a convo. Could it be the person you are thinking of does care about what you say but just prefers not to direct conversations with questions? (That said- trust your gut- some people just are self obsessed.)

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 01/07/2024 20:09

ByCupidStunt · 01/07/2024 19:57

They are just totally self absorbed and pretend that it's rude to ask someone something. Twats.

Oh, the irony. You sound pretty self absorbed and rude yourself.

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 01/07/2024 20:08

OkPedro · 01/07/2024 18:22

Clearly the op wasn't talking about people like you.. but you are actually coming across as someone who makes everything about themselves ironic eh 😂

They're not coming across that way to me.

Mrsdyna · 01/07/2024 20:07

Ok it depends. If we've just met and you're asking me generic personal questions like it's an interview then I hate it. Just talk more about situational stuff in the future, as in about whatever you're doing.

DodoTired · 01/07/2024 20:06

actually a more natural flow of a conversation is when someone asks some questions AND shares something about themselves / conversation topic.

otherwise it is just a mutual interview or interrogation with a rigid order

There are some people who constantly ASK questions that I find weird immediately asking them a question back. If you find yourself in this situation maybe stop asking questions and lets just conversation to flow more naturally

AndThatsItReally · 01/07/2024 20:03

I hate being bombarded with questions. And I hate asking for the sake of it. It can be like an interrogation.

Good friends won't ask too much but will volunteer stuff or make observations - and maybe be sensitive to the other person's communication style.

So OP, in your example - you've asked about her partner, she answers - make an observation - add a story or an amusing anecdote, make her laugh, exchange a snippet, "Dave's having the same trouble/ Dave's said that's why he wants a holiday" or "Good I'm glad to hear all's well. On another subject I was on the bus last week and....." Or "The labour candidate canvassed me outside Tesco yesterday and do you know what he said??" Or "Look at those flowerbeds - I've never been able to grow begonias" It doesn't have to be a job interview or like speed dating!

RacingRedCar · 01/07/2024 19:58

Nothing wrong with expecting a friend to reciprocate with some interest in your life, OP. I had a similar friend who I knew for many years but is an ex-friend now as they had the same sort of self-absorbed approach in conversations.

ByCupidStunt · 01/07/2024 19:57

They are just totally self absorbed and pretend that it's rude to ask someone something. Twats.

wevegotarightonehere · 01/07/2024 19:50

It's a lack of basic social skills and bad manners. I can't be bothered with people who can't be bothered to learn some manners. They generally don't have many friends, I've noticed.

Thepeopleversuswork · 01/07/2024 19:50

@MeadStMary

In all honesty I only ask questions if I am interested in the answer. If I hardly know you then I really don't care where you're going on holiday this summer or how your kids are. But I don't understand why people who I hardly know ask me those sort of questions either. I think "you're not actually interested, you're just trying to seem nice". I find it very insincere.

Exactly! No one, deep down, is interested in someone else’s holiday plans . It’s a perfectly adequate icebreaker but if people never get beyond that it tends to suggest they are dull or a bit stupid.

MeadStMary · 01/07/2024 19:46

In all honesty I only ask questions if I am interested in the answer. If I hardly know you then I really don't care where you're going on holiday this summer or how your kids are. But I don't understand why people who I hardly know ask me those sort of questions either. I think "you're not actually interested, you're just trying to seem nice". I find it very insincere.

I don't only ever talk about myself and I have no problem with understanding the concept of taking turns in conversations. Most conversations I have with people flow naturally just fine. I just don't ask boring questions to be polite.

Babbahabba · 01/07/2024 19:46

I agree with you OP. I wouldn't be friends or in a relationship with someone like that. If it was someone I had to have interaction with- eg co worker, I would get the stage of friendly but limited interaction.

Thepeopleversuswork · 01/07/2024 19:41

I don’t mind being asked questions and I do it myself but I also think that a lot of those reciprocal polite tennis questions are quite boring and I don’t think the answers shed much light on someone.

How many people give a really deep or honest answer to the question: “How was your weekend?” Or “Did you have a good Christmas?” It’s a perfectly normal way to break the ice with someone but not a very good way to get to the heart of what makes them tick.

I have close girlfriends about whose Christmases and summer holidays I know very little. I am not particularly interested in getting polite, formulaic and not terribly honest answers. I will very happily play the game if I have to but to me it’s superficial and dull so I won’t dwell on it.

The stuff that’s really interesting about people is the stuff you only get to know about them when you get past “how was your weekend?”

AsanteSana · 01/07/2024 19:39

Exactly @fieldsofbutterflies, exactly how I feel - and not every silence has to be filled or the air fed with words, the world is already a very noisy and 'busy' place for me and my preference is to spend quiet time, in quiet places with quiet people. And as a private and reserved personality I am uncomfortable with being asked too many questions, and, by default, don't feel comfortable asking too many questions of other people, but can manage reciprocal "how are you's" etc, but it does feel llike vocal ping pong!