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Almost got knocked over at a zebra crossing

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UsernameRandom19 · 01/07/2024 12:17

I have attached a badly drawn picture I did in paint. I was walking out of a Mcdonald's car park and walking across a zebra crossing and was half way across the zebra crossing (im the yellow dot in the picture). There was a big SUV (red car in picture) so I stopped a second to make sure nothing was coming, and it is a good thing I did because just passed the zebra crossing without stopping. I was half way on the crossing and she did not notice me even when she drove past me. If I did not stop I would have been run hit.

Peoples driving seems to be alot worse nowadays, surely if there is a zebra crossing and reduced visibility due to other cars you be careful and make sure no one is crossing.
I was mentioning it to my mum and she said I should contact Mcdonald's for CCTV footage to report to the police for dangerous driving - should I or is that silly?

Almost got knocked over at a zebra crossing
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TimeandMotion · 01/07/2024 13:27

Irridescantshimmmer · 01/07/2024 13:20

Yes, report them.......the driver of the the SUV could have severely maimed or killed you. So reporting them is anything but silly.

At zebra crossings, pedestrians have a right of way.....The idiot driver was probably stoned.

If you look at her diagram you’ll see that the SUV was not the car that did not stop.

OP was crossing behind the SUV.
The SUV was blocking the view of the crossing of the driver of car that did not stop. It blocked the view presumably because it was so high.

TimeandMotion · 01/07/2024 13:25

Most mornings I drive over a crossing in a place where the traffic on the opposite side of the road to me is queuing. Cars leave the crossing clear in the queue but this means (as I think was the case with the red SUV) that sometimes I can’t see the first half of the crossing (to my right) as I approach it. So I slow right down, maybe even come to a stop, until I can see past the queuing car to ensure the crossing is clear. Sometimes there are indeed people on the crossing.

The number of times a car behind me has beeped at me to keep moving is unreal.

To play devil’s advocate, however, pedestrians should also be careful here. If I am pedestrian crossing the first half in those circumstances I would stop and reassure myself no traffic was approaching before stepping out from behind the queued traffic.

That said, I tend to understand the driver’s vantage point when I am a pedestrian because I am also a driver, in fact a driver who drives often in those specific places. You can’t rely on non-driver pedestrians to think in the same way.

(My bugbear is pedestrians who walk really close to the kerb on streets where cars are squeezing past each other, not realising that they are at risk of being clipped by a wing mirror. Keep away from the edge people! )

Irridescantshimmmer · 01/07/2024 13:20

Yes, report them.......the driver of the the SUV could have severely maimed or killed you. So reporting them is anything but silly.

At zebra crossings, pedestrians have a right of way.....The idiot driver was probably stoned.

countcalculia · 01/07/2024 13:20

MaryBethMayfair · 01/07/2024 12:22

You've said yourself that they couldn't see you. You haven't indicated that the driver was speeding or acting dangerously. The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing. If they are unfamiliar with the road, maybe they're completely oblivious to it's existence. The zebra crossings at McDonalds are usually just painted on the road, they don't tend to have have the flashing lights that would draw extra attention.

You did the right thing by pausing to check.

I can't fathom why CCTV or police reports would be required for a complete non-event.

What are you on about? It was a pavement to a main road, not inside the McDonalds car park. A zebra crossing is signposted with pillars with flashing lights, not to mention the stripes on the ground.

If you cant see then you need to get off the road asap.

AlpineMuesli · 01/07/2024 13:15

Bluevelvetsofa · 01/07/2024 12:47

Any driver should be cautious approaching a zebra crossing. The pedestrian has the right of way at a zebra crossing. Unless you are confident that there is no pedestrian anywhere on any pavement nearby, preparing to potentially cross the road appropriately, you should always slow.

Highway code useful here:

Zebra crossings. Give traffic plenty of time to see you and to stop before you start to cross. Vehicles will need more time when the road is slippery. Wait until traffic has stopped from both directions or the road is clear before crossing. Remember that traffic does not have to stop until someone has moved onto the crossing. Drivers and riders should give way to pedestrians waiting to cross and MUST give way to pedestrians on a zebra crossing (see Rule H2). Keep looking both ways, and listening, in case a driver or rider has not seen you and attempts to overtake a vehicle that has stopped.

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/rules-for-pedestrians-crossings.html

But realistically, drivers around me know that they can do what they want and nothing will happen. There are no repercussions.

Rules for pedestrians - Crossings (18 to 30)

Always check that the traffic has stopped before you start to cross or push a pram onto a crossing

https://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/rules-for-pedestrians-crossings.html

Savoydone · 01/07/2024 13:13

I cross a zebra crossing to get to work and back. The amount of times I have nearly been run down is untrue. They come flying up when I am halfway across and just don’t seem to even register it’s a crossing.
One bloke in a transit van did spot me. Leant out of his window and shouted “next time I’ll fucking run you over”. So charming.
I’m not doing anything unusual. Just walking to the crossing at a normal pace, checking the road and walking across. It’s scary.

its2024 · 01/07/2024 13:12

I don't cross at zebra, pelican crossings unless both sides have stopped, it's too risky assuming the car is going to stop. So many time especially at pelican crossings, vehicles just sail through on red lights totally unaware.

Even worse pelican crossing near roundabouts, cars stopped in the middle off the crossing cause there queuing to go round the roundabout and pedestrians can't cross as blocking the road when it's on green to cross.

NasiDagang · 01/07/2024 13:10

MaryBethMayfair · 01/07/2024 12:22

You've said yourself that they couldn't see you. You haven't indicated that the driver was speeding or acting dangerously. The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing. If they are unfamiliar with the road, maybe they're completely oblivious to it's existence. The zebra crossings at McDonalds are usually just painted on the road, they don't tend to have have the flashing lights that would draw extra attention.

You did the right thing by pausing to check.

I can't fathom why CCTV or police reports would be required for a complete non-event.

Are you talking about blind drivers? I'm really confused now🤔

AlpineMuesli · 01/07/2024 13:10

I know someone knocked over on a zebra crossing 10 years ago. I'm far more cautious post pandemic as I can see around me that people's driving has got worse. Mobile phones hand at all times, vaping at every opportunity, and generally I think people just don't care. The thought of hitting someone isn't off-putting enough anymore. Cycling with a child on the back has made me realise people don't even care about hitting a child. I was forced to brake very hard to avoid an oncoming car coming into my lane recently, and the lorry driver watching laughed. We could have died.

PraiseTheSunshine · 01/07/2024 13:04

Something similar happened to me a few days ago at a McDonald's. I stepped out onto the zebra crossing and a car coming out of the drive thru just drove on without stopping. It looked like he was leaning over eating his food off the passenger seat and didn't even appear to notice me, I had to stop in the middle of the crossing or he'd have run me over.

shearwater2 · 01/07/2024 13:04

Having said that, I have raised bad lighting with local councils in areas locally where there are no streetlights. At dusk or at night as you are driving up you cannot see if someone is standing there waiting to cross, or even starting to cross, as the crossings are so badly lit. Pedestrians should wear hi vis as well in those conditions but very few do.

UsernameRedacted · 01/07/2024 13:02

YellowHairband · 01/07/2024 12:43

The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing. If they are unfamiliar with the road, maybe they're completely oblivious to it's existence.

What? How could you not see a zebra crossing?

At our McDs they just have painted white lines but if there's another car in front then they're blocking them from view, there's no Belisha beacons like there would be if it was an actual zebra crossing.

shearwater2 · 01/07/2024 13:01

I've nearly been hit on a pelican crossing on a red light, and once I stopped a blind man crossing - car which would have hit him after he started to cross with the green man. The driver appeared to have not even seen the crossing or the red light.

I've been at some pelicans in the morning and watched drivers just sail through red lights, totally oblivious.

Iwantamarshmallowman · 01/07/2024 12:53

Needmorelego · 01/07/2024 12:24

This happens to me almost daily.
Even at pelican crossing with traffic lights.
It's ridiculous.

I have to cross one with the kids on the school run and it's a death trap.. they just keep coming like they don't know what a zebra crossing is for.

Lifeinlists · 01/07/2024 12:48

My brother was almost killed on a zebra crossing when he was a child. He was half way across and realised the oncoming car wasn't going to stop so he ran. The car still clipped him and flung him onto the pavement- thankfully not seriously injured but battered and bruised.
It ended in court with a large fine, ban, compensation payout etc.

I drilled it into my own DC to never trust drivers approaching crossings. I may have even been a bit OTT (!) but driving standards are much worse now. There is simply no excuse for inattention, and car parks are some of the worst places for this.

@MaryBethMayfair you need to book * *yourself another driving test.

Bluevelvetsofa · 01/07/2024 12:47

Any driver should be cautious approaching a zebra crossing. The pedestrian has the right of way at a zebra crossing. Unless you are confident that there is no pedestrian anywhere on any pavement nearby, preparing to potentially cross the road appropriately, you should always slow.

YellowHairband · 01/07/2024 12:43

The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing. If they are unfamiliar with the road, maybe they're completely oblivious to it's existence.

What? How could you not see a zebra crossing?

UsernameRandom19 · 01/07/2024 12:35

@DoYouSmokePaul
I'm so sorry, that is awful. It is scary how bad some drivers are nowadays.

@MaryBethMayfair
If they did not notice it is a Zebra Crossing - that is not a good excuse for almost hitting someone

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Peonies12 · 01/07/2024 12:32

MaryBethMayfair · 01/07/2024 12:22

You've said yourself that they couldn't see you. You haven't indicated that the driver was speeding or acting dangerously. The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing. If they are unfamiliar with the road, maybe they're completely oblivious to it's existence. The zebra crossings at McDonalds are usually just painted on the road, they don't tend to have have the flashing lights that would draw extra attention.

You did the right thing by pausing to check.

I can't fathom why CCTV or police reports would be required for a complete non-event.

I hope you don't drive, this is an appalling thing to say. If a driver can't see a zebra crossing, they shouldn't be driving. Doesn't matter if they're familiar. OP please do contact McDonalds to see if there's CCTV, so you can report to police.

Coffeerum · 01/07/2024 12:32

@MaryBethMayfair The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing.

If they can’t see high contrast road markings right across the lane they are driving on then they shouldn’t be driving.

Missenger · 01/07/2024 12:31

@MaryBethMayfair I'm sure you'll get lots of responses, but I want to add: You should always be prepared to stop at a zebra crossing unless you see that it's clear. There's really no excuse.

If you can't see a pedestrian, then you e already fucked up. Look at the stopped cars and take heed.

tommika · 01/07/2024 12:30

MaryBethMayfair · 01/07/2024 12:22

You've said yourself that they couldn't see you. You haven't indicated that the driver was speeding or acting dangerously. The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing. If they are unfamiliar with the road, maybe they're completely oblivious to it's existence. The zebra crossings at McDonalds are usually just painted on the road, they don't tend to have have the flashing lights that would draw extra attention.

You did the right thing by pausing to check.

I can't fathom why CCTV or police reports would be required for a complete non-event.

If they can’t see lines on the road they aren’t paying attention, and if they can’t see due to an obstructed view they aren’t paying sufficient attention to be aware of pedestrians crossing a pedestrian crossing which are out of view due to vehicles stopped in front of a pedestrian crossing

GiantHornets · 01/07/2024 12:30

MaryBethMayfair · 01/07/2024 12:22

You've said yourself that they couldn't see you. You haven't indicated that the driver was speeding or acting dangerously. The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing. If they are unfamiliar with the road, maybe they're completely oblivious to it's existence. The zebra crossings at McDonalds are usually just painted on the road, they don't tend to have have the flashing lights that would draw extra attention.

You did the right thing by pausing to check.

I can't fathom why CCTV or police reports would be required for a complete non-event.

Don’t be ridiculous!
A zebra crossing is obvious even on an unfamiliar road. Car drivers don’t get a free pass by saying they didn’t see you.

Putting · 01/07/2024 12:30

MaryBethMayfair · 01/07/2024 12:22

You've said yourself that they couldn't see you. You haven't indicated that the driver was speeding or acting dangerously. The driver was unaware it's a zebra crossing. If they are unfamiliar with the road, maybe they're completely oblivious to it's existence. The zebra crossings at McDonalds are usually just painted on the road, they don't tend to have have the flashing lights that would draw extra attention.

You did the right thing by pausing to check.

I can't fathom why CCTV or police reports would be required for a complete non-event.

If a driver can’t see there’s a zebra crossing and isn’t aware of a pedestrian on the road then they are driving dangerously. And if their eyesight is that bad, shouldn’t be driving at all.

Missenger · 01/07/2024 12:30

Happened to me. Already stepped out on the crossing and thanked the driver on the opposite side when a pair of idiots pull up so close and at such speed that I felt a strong gust from their car.

People are stupid. If you see one car, or a queue, stopped then maybe stop at the zebra crossing? So stupid. And they won't apologise either, just sit there with a dazed look.

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