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DH took our DD2 trampolining in her pyjamas

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Edenmum2 · 30/06/2024 23:06

I don't know why it annoyed me so much. He has her one-on-one on Sunday mornings (I have a lie in as I do all night wakings) and took her trampolining. He had 2 hours to get her up and ready. Im pretty sure he didn't clean her teeth either. Definitely didn't brush her hair.

He turns up at lunch time all proud of himself and she's still in her pyjamas! Now filthy because they went to the park after.

I don't want to be a nag, I don't want to be negative, I love them bonding and I'm appreciative of him taking her but I just can't shake the fact that his standards for her are so much lower than mine. Like every time I leave her in his care she looks like she's been dragged through a hedge backwards. Really I can't think he has any other reason to not get her dressed beyond 'I couldn't be bothered'

Am I being a terrible nag? Would it bother you? I just feel like I take on all the mental load of her entire life and he can't even be bothered to get her dressed.

Would it bother you?

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Edenmum2 · 01/07/2024 22:04

PaminaMozart · 01/07/2024 14:33

I definitely do way more of the parenting than him, and almost 100% of the mental load, and I know this needs to be addressed.

Your daughter is 2? How did it get to this point?

Patterns, once set, can become entrenched and hard to change.

Not quite sure, I guess we shared it a lot more when she was a newborn and then when she went into her own room at 6 months she started fighting him settling her so that fell on me, and he was back at work so I sort out her meals, and gradually he just did less and less. He's a massive under-thinker and it drives me mad that he never really considers anything that I HAVE to - what we need, what meals to make, when she needs a nap, when and how to start potty training, just general day to day plans.

I feel like he was sneaky, he was really brilliant when she was born and was more connected to her than even I was initially. But now it's swung massively in the other direction and I think he sees her 'want me' more and that's his excuse to be a lazy git.

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Chazzacoco · 01/07/2024 21:47

Edenmum2 · 30/06/2024 23:06

I don't know why it annoyed me so much. He has her one-on-one on Sunday mornings (I have a lie in as I do all night wakings) and took her trampolining. He had 2 hours to get her up and ready. Im pretty sure he didn't clean her teeth either. Definitely didn't brush her hair.

He turns up at lunch time all proud of himself and she's still in her pyjamas! Now filthy because they went to the park after.

I don't want to be a nag, I don't want to be negative, I love them bonding and I'm appreciative of him taking her but I just can't shake the fact that his standards for her are so much lower than mine. Like every time I leave her in his care she looks like she's been dragged through a hedge backwards. Really I can't think he has any other reason to not get her dressed beyond 'I couldn't be bothered'

Am I being a terrible nag? Would it bother you? I just feel like I take on all the mental load of her entire life and he can't even be bothered to get her dressed.

Would it bother you?

I think it’s funny and sounds like she had a great time. Edited to say as long as she had a coat on and yes teeth should be brushed.

WhataPlank · 01/07/2024 21:43

Edenmum2 · 01/07/2024 14:12

This is my main worry. I know he adores her and is a good parent but I need to know he has his shit together. To be clear she wasn't 'filthy', she'd had a bath the night before - so I don't think anyone would look at her and call social services (thanks to that poster!) but it just really annoyed me that she wasn't dressed!

For those asking - he said 'it's just shorts and T-shirt, what's the difference?' 🙄

I definitely do way more of the parenting than him, and almost 100% of the mental load, and I know this needs to be addressed.

Oh and yes my 2 year old still wakes in the night - yay for me

I'm "that poster" - and if someone repeatedly saw a parent bring a child in inappropriate clothing with unbrushed hair and a general unkept appearance, they could well call social services.
As I say, I've been on so much safeguarding training and this is exactly what they ask us to look out for - a one off, fine. Repeatedly? Call it in.

Daisybuttercup12345 · 01/07/2024 20:54

Fat2fitter · 30/06/2024 23:08

Yes it would bother me.

Simply because it shows a lack of care.

He managed to get himself dressed I assume? So he knows you don't go.out in your PJs.

Why does he think he doesn't need to dress her, comb her hair or brush her teeth?
It's basic care.

This. I would be very annoyed with him.

Buttoneyed · 01/07/2024 20:53

thebestinterest · 01/07/2024 19:53

This is absolutely ridiculous. How neglected is this child because she didn’t wear “proper” clothes or brush her hair before a jump at the park? 😂 she’s two! Ffs. You piranhas are acting as if this child hasn’t had a bath, teeth brush and a proper meal in months. Seriously. Check yourselves 🤦🏾‍♀️

Check your standards. They’re extremely low.

this child’s dad cant be arsed to brush her teeth, dress her or brush her hair. He’s proud of himself for not doing any of that. If mum gets poorly and dads in charge and doesn’t brush his own kids teeth then of course that’s neglect. The only reason she’s been fed and cleaned is because of mum. Your bar is very low.

MrsTerryPratchett · 01/07/2024 20:48

You piranhas are acting as if this child hasn’t had a bath, teeth brush and a proper meal in months.

@thebestinterest it sounds as though the reason she has had a bath, brushed teeth and decent food is because mum makes sure of it. Dad hasn't. If only one parent actually parents and the other waltzes in and just has fun, is that fair? Mum does every night waking and dad can't brush teeth once a week. Do you really think that's up to snuff?

Natsku · 01/07/2024 20:41

thebestinterest · 01/07/2024 19:53

This is absolutely ridiculous. How neglected is this child because she didn’t wear “proper” clothes or brush her hair before a jump at the park? 😂 she’s two! Ffs. You piranhas are acting as if this child hasn’t had a bath, teeth brush and a proper meal in months. Seriously. Check yourselves 🤦🏾‍♀️

Not brushing her teeth is neglect

Epicaricacy · 01/07/2024 20:38

thebestinterest · 01/07/2024 19:53

This is absolutely ridiculous. How neglected is this child because she didn’t wear “proper” clothes or brush her hair before a jump at the park? 😂 she’s two! Ffs. You piranhas are acting as if this child hasn’t had a bath, teeth brush and a proper meal in months. Seriously. Check yourselves 🤦🏾‍♀️

what difference does "being 2" makes? If anything it's worst, she is too young to do it herself.

It is borderline neglectful not to put clothes on and have basic minimum hygiene.

Did he go to the park in his pjs without brushing his teeth? Unless you are seriously ill, it's the least you could do, care for your kids.

Floorbard · 01/07/2024 20:35

thebestinterest · 01/07/2024 19:53

This is absolutely ridiculous. How neglected is this child because she didn’t wear “proper” clothes or brush her hair before a jump at the park? 😂 she’s two! Ffs. You piranhas are acting as if this child hasn’t had a bath, teeth brush and a proper meal in months. Seriously. Check yourselves 🤦🏾‍♀️

I didn’t say she was neglected, there’s no need to have a weird little tantrum.

thebestinterest · 01/07/2024 19:53

Floorbard · 01/07/2024 08:31

Wanting your child to get dressed and have their hair brushed is not micromanaging. It is the most basic of standards to have.

This is absolutely ridiculous. How neglected is this child because she didn’t wear “proper” clothes or brush her hair before a jump at the park? 😂 she’s two! Ffs. You piranhas are acting as if this child hasn’t had a bath, teeth brush and a proper meal in months. Seriously. Check yourselves 🤦🏾‍♀️

Nanny0gg · 01/07/2024 19:01

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/07/2024 12:02

Because it really isn’t difficult. If he can do school runs and night wakings as well as holding down a full time job, he can dress his children.

OFGS
Some men don't care what they or their kids look like so would throw on anything
Some mothers and children do. So they take care and trouble

That's the point

CatrionaBalfour · 01/07/2024 18:51

Nanny0gg · 01/07/2024 18:49

Not the men I know

Not my experience either.

Nanny0gg · 01/07/2024 18:49

Cattery · 01/07/2024 09:53

Men just don’t see things how we do. We like the kids to be well presented but all they’d argue is that they’re safe and having fun. Which is true I suppose

Not the men I know

CatrionaBalfour · 01/07/2024 18:46

"I think you are lucky that you have a partner who will take her out on a Sunday morning"
You see, I don't think that's "lucky". I think he's being a dad. The mum is doing a lot, he's (rightly) sharing the load. However, so many women are conditioned to expect so little from men that effectively sharing of parental engagement means that a woman is lucky. 😕

GingerScallop · 01/07/2024 18:28

PollyPut · 01/07/2024 14:26

@GingerScallop I don't think this is a hill to die on.

If they are not obviously pyjamas - I think you are lucky that you have a partner that will actually take her out on a Sunday morning, give you a lie in and bring her home safe and in one piece (I assume she was sensibly fed, watered and had not hit her head on a trampoline)? Many many parents would just keep them at home instead. It is a bit lazy yes and now they need a wash as she can't sleep in them so it's extra washing. Presumably she has others to change into for the next night

I am sure that if you were hospitalised he'd make sure she changed into day clothes then. He generally sounds pretty capable.

On the other hand, not brushing teeth is more of a problem in the long run - presumably he brushed his own? That is the one I'd be more worried about

@PollyPut I agree as a once off. Indeed I twice sent my then 2 year old to nursery in pyjamas because she insisted and wasnt going to change her mind. The choice was going or not going. What I was replying to were the number of people that said their partners cannot differentiate between pyjamas and other clothes. How is that possible? Really? Should we accept that men are really incapable of doing this? My 3 now 2 year old can differentiate pyjamas and day time clothes.
I also think many men delibarately keep standards on childcare low so that they do not share care duties fairly with women. We know how overburdened most women are. So lets demand a bit better of men and how them to account. Otherwise women will remain overworked and under-appreciated.
But overall, yes as a once off thing, no big deal

user1471538283 · 01/07/2024 15:41

It would annoy me because it's just basic parenting to get your child dressed when they are going out. His standards may not be as high as yours but it's not too much to expect that she left the house washed and dressed.

I'd tell him.

MrsCarson · 01/07/2024 15:02

CatrionaBalfour · 01/07/2024 10:56

I'm wondering why he couldn't open all the drawers and determine this for himself?

Probably rushing as usual, but also he said he could see how they were PJ pants compared to sweats, they were purple with animals all over, nothing like the sweatpants and shorts in the other drawer.

SouthLondonMum22 · 01/07/2024 14:58

Bushmillsbabe · 01/07/2024 12:13

Right ok, do you do high level management meetings whilst simultaneously getting 2 children to school and nursery?

It's not about whether he is a dad or a mum, it's about trying to make things run smoother and working as a team. If the clothes are out he doesn't have to be debating with our very opinionated 4 year old what she is going to wear, she can get herself dressed. He doesn't need our 5 year old asking what she needs to wear for school today whilst he is in a meeting.

Of course it is about that because mums don’t generally get a hand hold with simple parenting tasks, even when they are working.

He can do the clothes the night before too, nothing is stopping him.

PaminaMozart · 01/07/2024 14:33

I definitely do way more of the parenting than him, and almost 100% of the mental load, and I know this needs to be addressed.

Your daughter is 2? How did it get to this point?

Patterns, once set, can become entrenched and hard to change.

PollyPut · 01/07/2024 14:26

Edenmum2 · 01/07/2024 14:12

This is my main worry. I know he adores her and is a good parent but I need to know he has his shit together. To be clear she wasn't 'filthy', she'd had a bath the night before - so I don't think anyone would look at her and call social services (thanks to that poster!) but it just really annoyed me that she wasn't dressed!

For those asking - he said 'it's just shorts and T-shirt, what's the difference?' 🙄

I definitely do way more of the parenting than him, and almost 100% of the mental load, and I know this needs to be addressed.

Oh and yes my 2 year old still wakes in the night - yay for me

@GingerScallop I don't think this is a hill to die on.

If they are not obviously pyjamas - I think you are lucky that you have a partner that will actually take her out on a Sunday morning, give you a lie in and bring her home safe and in one piece (I assume she was sensibly fed, watered and had not hit her head on a trampoline)? Many many parents would just keep them at home instead. It is a bit lazy yes and now they need a wash as she can't sleep in them so it's extra washing. Presumably she has others to change into for the next night

I am sure that if you were hospitalised he'd make sure she changed into day clothes then. He generally sounds pretty capable.

On the other hand, not brushing teeth is more of a problem in the long run - presumably he brushed his own? That is the one I'd be more worried about

Edenmum2 · 01/07/2024 14:12

MargoylesofBeelzebub · 01/07/2024 08:21

I'd be incredibly annoyed! You need to know that if anything happened to you e.g. you needed to stay in hospital for some reason, that you can rely on your partner to do a good job of parenting your child. Different parenting styles are fine, but basics like hair and teeth brushed and getting dressed in the morning are non negotiable.

This is my main worry. I know he adores her and is a good parent but I need to know he has his shit together. To be clear she wasn't 'filthy', she'd had a bath the night before - so I don't think anyone would look at her and call social services (thanks to that poster!) but it just really annoyed me that she wasn't dressed!

For those asking - he said 'it's just shorts and T-shirt, what's the difference?' 🙄

I definitely do way more of the parenting than him, and almost 100% of the mental load, and I know this needs to be addressed.

Oh and yes my 2 year old still wakes in the night - yay for me

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Bushmillsbabe · 01/07/2024 13:42

Parker231 · 01/07/2024 13:21

What happens when you’re away from home - girls weekend or work trip - surely you don’t set out the children’s clothes in advance? DH is a parent, if he wants to dress DS in pink and orange, so what?

At the weekend it doesn't matter what they wear, and there is usually no rush so if our girls take an hour to decide what they want to wear, so what. On school days it does matter, both that they have correct clothes on for that's days activities and that they are quick so they aren't late.

True re pink and orange, and that's partly why he asks me to do it as I take the mickey out of the outfits he used to put them in, so thank you for the learning point on that one, I will try to be a bit less OCD about what they wear 😂. I guess if we want them to do more we have to let go a bit.

5475878237NC · 01/07/2024 13:33

This just isn't on. Such low standards for men amongst many posters here.

WolfFoxHare · 01/07/2024 13:25

Epicaricacy · 01/07/2024 09:55

I couldn't disagree more. "Men" who know how to function and get dressed in the morning have the exact same understanding of caring for a child as we do.

Putting the wrong colour jumper is one thing, but cleaning and dressing your kid is not about them being "well presented", it's the minimum care.

You feed them, get them dressed in weather-appropriate clothes, put suntan lotion on when needed, even another child would know the basics.

Yes, this exactly. My husband might not have been bothered about e.g. co-ordinating DS's green and blue striped top with his blue trousers and green hoodie and make sure his socks matched, but he did always make sure he was clean, freshly brushed and wearing clean, appropriate clothes.

Nursery used to joke that they could always tell which of us had dressed him for the day, but they wouldn't have been able to tell just based on cleanliness.

I have seen threads in the past where female posters have been criticised for letting their children sleep in uniform so they can get for school in the morning faster, but it's fine if a man takes a child out for the day wearing the PJs she slept in?

Parker231 · 01/07/2024 13:21

Bushmillsbabe · 01/07/2024 11:40

That's the bit you took from my post! Not that he does school runs, night wakings etc. It's not really a big deal for me to put out clothes the night before, when I'm dashing out the door at 7am and he is getting them to school and back whilst also doing a full time job. We call it working together.

He would dress them but he can come up with some pretty strange clothes combo's, so the girls prefer me to do it.

What happens when you’re away from home - girls weekend or work trip - surely you don’t set out the children’s clothes in advance? DH is a parent, if he wants to dress DS in pink and orange, so what?