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to be an equally shit neighbour?

211 replies

SkyeB86 · 30/06/2024 17:48

In 2019 a new family moved in next door and immediately they started acting a problem. Then lockdown happened and it escalated. Big heavy basketballs thud constantly from morning till night, kids (6 of them) scream at each other (and I mean blood-curdling screams at times) they think it's fine to jump into my garden whenever they fancy. I had a word with the dad, his response was that other than them jumping in my garden, they're not breaking any laws so he wouldn't be telling the kids to quiet down. Fair enough, they're not.

So I've bought some Bluetooth speakers. Whenever they get too noisy, I play music in my garden which effectively drowns them out, and can only be really be heard from NDNs garden. The dad has this weekend asked me to keep it down.

AIBU to think that if they can have the 'fuck everyone else' attitude, then so can I?

OP posts:
Crumpleton · 30/06/2024 19:46

Totally understand where you're coming from OP but do be careful that it doesn't backfire and your neighbour doesn't download a noise app, recommended to do by the council, to record the level of volume your music is playing at.

Maybe download one yourself just to double check the volume and keep it just under or around the legal limit...and don't play it continuously...or between the hours of 11pm-7am.

Then if he compains again remind him of what he told you.

Iseeyoupekingduck · 30/06/2024 19:44

Don't you love entitled people? There's a family near us who think the world has to stop because they have a toddler that doesn't sleep! All noise has to stop at half past 6 and yet they've had the toddler out much later than that on numerous occasions! They will sit in the garden at 7am making a racket and both children and the adults will be out screaming in the day not that anyone minds but it's just the hypocrisy!

SpindleyDindley · 30/06/2024 19:42

Keep doing what you are doing OP. Some people cannot be reasoned with.

SkyeB86 · 30/06/2024 19:39

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:33

i am thanks... to be honest, i'm simply replying to other peoples comments. i have little to do this evening, my grand children have gone home... happily listening to the neighbours kids playing outside.

its lovely that they are able to be outside and enjoying the good weather rather than cooped up inside playing on their games consoles etc.

but.. you are right, i do keep saying i am going, so i will go. i wish you well, i hope you enjoy all that music... just becareful cos karma can come back and bite ya hard

Thanks, Becky. I'll be on guard for karma bites 🫣😬

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mommatoone · 30/06/2024 19:37

LaPalmaLlama · 30/06/2024 18:59

Man in Finance. Unbelievably irritating ear worm with no artistic merit whatsoever.

Oooh this has tickled me 🤣🤣🤣

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:33

SkyeB86 · 30/06/2024 19:29

You still here, Becky? I'd hoped you'd gone off like you stated you would, to calm down at the absolute ghall of me playing music. Rather than return to add things you've since imagined 🫢😂

i am thanks... to be honest, i'm simply replying to other peoples comments. i have little to do this evening, my grand children have gone home... happily listening to the neighbours kids playing outside.

its lovely that they are able to be outside and enjoying the good weather rather than cooped up inside playing on their games consoles etc.

but.. you are right, i do keep saying i am going, so i will go. i wish you well, i hope you enjoy all that music... just becareful cos karma can come back and bite ya hard

SkyeB86 · 30/06/2024 19:30

And the 'most invested in a fairly dull thread topic' award goes to... 🏆

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SkyeB86 · 30/06/2024 19:29

You still here, Becky? I'd hoped you'd gone off like you stated you would, to calm down at the absolute ghall of me playing music. Rather than return to add things you've since imagined 🫢😂

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suburburban · 30/06/2024 19:29

Sounds like they don't get taken out much and are left to their own devices

countcalculia · 30/06/2024 19:29

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:07

Do people seriously not think that children should not be allowed to be children in their own home?

i am truely shocked, and dispair at society today..

The OP alledgedly plays music so loud into their neighbours garden, but it would appear they don't hear this music themselves?? to drown out the noise of the neighbours children.... how does the Op hear the neighbours children if they are making that much noise, yet they can't hear the music they are blasting over the fence??

I shall leave it here.. it doesnt make any sense

You keep saying you’e leaving it and then keep coming back. Make up your mind.

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:26

HappyBackHome · 30/06/2024 19:22

Or maybe the poster is able to ascertain what a 'reasonable' amount of noise from children would be - surely her neighbour's children aren't the first children she has ever encountered?

Most (reasonable) people, no matter their 'maturity' are able to understand that children continually bouncing a basketball and screaming in the garden is not 'just children being children'... but I think you are fully aware of that!

Unless you do, genuinely, think that screaming is usual play behaviour?

In which case, if you have children that scream a lot, you are checking that they aren't seriously injured/needing assistance every single time they scream - or maybe you should actually be supervising them and teaching them to be decent members of society while you're at it!

perhaps given the above we should as the OP is they have, along with contacting the council to make a noise complaint, kept a noise diary, they add a safeguarding referral to SS as well, to look into the constant screaming these children are doing, because as you say, perhaps they are injured..

you know you are being ridiculous. the OP is being ridiculous... i suspect they have already complained to the council, as they are very obviously ignoring these suggestions, and i suspect the council have told them that its reasonable to expect noise from children playing.

when children play, they make a noise! its what children do.. and to expect them to not make a noise so they don't upset the grumpy nect door neighbour does not make them bad children...

cappycap · 30/06/2024 19:26

There is nothing wrong with children playing in their garden, just as there is nothing wrong with the parents requesting the children keep the noise down.

And noise down doesn't mean silent! Just less noisy. Can just imagine it. Thankfully I live rural with no neighbours, just have to listen to my own two, but they do get told to lower the volume if it interrupts what I'm doing.

Well brought up children will respect boundaries set by parents. It shouldn't be an issue.

Basic consideration for neighbours shouldn't be such an issue either, especially if you live in a built up area. It's just common courtesy.

Not surprised the OP has resorted to trying to piss them off, they sound unreasonable.

Fargo79 · 30/06/2024 19:25

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:19

never mentioned the police did i? the council deal with noise complaints, although im not sure what offence knowingly allowing and intentionally ensuring minors hear lyrics you suggest?

the OP is not partying, they are not having friends round... they are playing, at your suggestion, sexual lyrics at volumn for minors to hear.. on purpose.

very very different to a party....

You have become so embarrassingly overinvested in the thread that you are now making things up. Nowhere does OP say she is playing sexually suggestive songs to the children.

Andwegoroundagain · 30/06/2024 19:24

Well I think you could point out as PP suggested to the NDN that you're playing music to drown out their noise. And see what they say!

HappyBackHome · 30/06/2024 19:22

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Or maybe the poster is able to ascertain what a 'reasonable' amount of noise from children would be - surely her neighbour's children aren't the first children she has ever encountered?

Most (reasonable) people, no matter their 'maturity' are able to understand that children continually bouncing a basketball and screaming in the garden is not 'just children being children'... but I think you are fully aware of that!

Unless you do, genuinely, think that screaming is usual play behaviour?

In which case, if you have children that scream a lot, you are checking that they aren't seriously injured/needing assistance every single time they scream - or maybe you should actually be supervising them and teaching them to be decent members of society while you're at it!

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:19

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:16

Do you think the police will go to the effort of obtaining and exercising a warrant, from a judge, for a noise nuisance offence that you say doesn't exist because OP has the right to enjoy her home the same way the neighbourS children do?

never mentioned the police did i? the council deal with noise complaints, although im not sure what offence knowingly allowing and intentionally ensuring minors hear lyrics you suggest?

the OP is not partying, they are not having friends round... they are playing, at your suggestion, sexual lyrics at volumn for minors to hear.. on purpose.

very very different to a party....

CraftyGoblin · 30/06/2024 19:18

Yabu because intention and how it will be seen if reported.

Their kids are not intentionally making noise to annoy you. They are entitled to play and make noise. Many councils and housing associations will not accept reports about the noise from children playing.

You are intentionally making noise because you don't like what they are doing. You could get into trouble for that if it constitutes a nuisance.

Some may think that's unfair but there are specific things that you can't make complaints about. Noise from everyday living such as toilets flushing, children playing, disability aides like stairlifts.

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:16

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:14

yes.. but you forget.... the Op is directing the music directly into the NDN's garden... i think you will find there are some offences there....

Do you think the police will go to the effort of obtaining and exercising a warrant, from a judge, for a noise nuisance offence that you say doesn't exist because OP has the right to enjoy her home the same way the neighbourS children do?

MoiraPose · 30/06/2024 19:14

I'd suggest some German techno interspersed with dubstep OP-trust me.

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:14

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:12

And so OP will. Perhaps you're the neighbour and you'll love it when she plays Eminem "Fuck that, cum on your lips and some on your tits on repeat amd your little darlings exercise their right to scream it in school.

yes.. but you forget.... the Op is directing the music directly into the NDN's garden... i think you will find there are some offences there....

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:12

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:10

absolutely... its your house!

its within the boundaries of your own home.. the law says you can party all day if thats what you want to do.

And so OP will. Perhaps you're the neighbour and you'll love it when she plays Eminem "Fuck that, cum on your lips and some on your tits on repeat amd your little darlings exercise their right to scream it in school.

MoiraPose · 30/06/2024 19:11

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I'm in my thirties and I think the OP should turn her music up even louder.

As you say, during certain hours we can all make as much noise as we like so what's the problem? I guess there's no need to teach children the importance of being good citizens and taking care of their communities, let them make other people's lives a misery. After all, children who are brought up to think they're the centre of the universe and there are never any consequences to their actions are always such a pleasure to be around when they become adults aren't they?

Geiyotue · 30/06/2024 19:11

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 18:26

the op has said that they play music in a way that only the NDN can hear...

Which is considerate. She's not disturbing the neighbourhood, she's just ensuring she has something nicer to listen to than the kids next door, who the neighbours allow to be really noisy.

suburburban · 30/06/2024 19:10

@beckybarefoot

Yes but to be considerate of others in the neighbourhood

It can be done

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 19:10

EatTheGnome · 30/06/2024 19:05

Or would you fight for my right to party all day because its my own home

absolutely... its your house!

its within the boundaries of your own home.. the law says you can party all day if thats what you want to do.