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The post person entered my house.

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Globules · 30/06/2024 16:12

I've just seen it on my Ring doorbell.

17yr old DD had left the door unlocked for her friend so she didn't have to come down to let them in. Not uncommon.

Post arrived, including a parcel, during this time. When no one answered the door, the post person tried the handle, opened up the door and came into my home.

Granted, DD shouldn't have left the door unlocked, but it doesn't make what the post person did ok.

Just me who thinks it was completely unreasonable for them to have even tried the handle?!

OP posts:
Megifer · 01/07/2024 15:38

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/07/2024 15:24

Surely if you are not OK with it you would lock your door?

Why is the responsibility on the homeowner to lock their door if they are in their private property, and not the complete stranger to not open the door to that private property?

As a pp said the fact its a sackable offence should speak volumes?

Edenmum2 · 01/07/2024 15:25

I'd be annoyed if mine didn't do this, I don't want to be chasing parcels around when my door is open

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/07/2024 15:24

willWillSmithsmith · 01/07/2024 15:23

I agree. The idea that people are more than happy for someone to try the handle of their front door to see if it’s open (which is totally unacceptable other than in exceptional safety circumstances) and then going in (whether it’s full body or just a hand) is mind boggling. I’m sitting on my sofa now just trying to visualise how I’d feel if my postman suddenly opened my door and walked in with a parcel. I’d be very unhappy and tell him to never do it again. Surely the fact it’s a sackable offence is enough to know it’s not on.

So these very amenable people, are you ok for the Amazon or Evri delivery driver doing that or is it just ok for RM?

Surely if you are not OK with it you would lock your door?

willWillSmithsmith · 01/07/2024 15:23

Shefliesonherownwings · 01/07/2024 12:29

The responses on here are nuts. How is it ok for anyone to try the handle of the front door, open it and then enter the house, whether that be a foot inside or just reaching a hand in to leave something on the floor. I would absolutely not be ok with someone trying my handle and opening my front door unless I agreed they could. I don't think for a second its the DDs fault, no one should be trying that handle full stop. I can't believe everyone is giving you such a hard time OP. Especially as the person clearly didn't read or notice your instructions about leaving parcels in the shed. I'm with you on this.

I agree. The idea that people are more than happy for someone to try the handle of their front door to see if it’s open (which is totally unacceptable other than in exceptional safety circumstances) and then going in (whether it’s full body or just a hand) is mind boggling. I’m sitting on my sofa now just trying to visualise how I’d feel if my postman suddenly opened my door and walked in with a parcel. I’d be very unhappy and tell him to never do it again. Surely the fact it’s a sackable offence is enough to know it’s not on.

So these very amenable people, are you ok for the Amazon or Evri delivery driver doing that or is it just ok for RM?

willWillSmithsmith · 01/07/2024 15:12

childfreebychoice · 01/07/2024 11:33

The same principle would apply wherever my front door opened to - hallway/living room/wherever. If I'd left the door unlocked then I'd be pleased if the parcel had been delivered to just inside the door.

Horses for courses I guess. I wouldn’t be pleased at all to have a postman (woman) come in to my house uninvited. I often leave my front door unlocked (if I’m expecting a visitor or my son) as it’s very private and safe but it’s not an open invite.

grumpygrape · 01/07/2024 14:57

Shefliesonherownwings · 01/07/2024 12:29

The responses on here are nuts. How is it ok for anyone to try the handle of the front door, open it and then enter the house, whether that be a foot inside or just reaching a hand in to leave something on the floor. I would absolutely not be ok with someone trying my handle and opening my front door unless I agreed they could. I don't think for a second its the DDs fault, no one should be trying that handle full stop. I can't believe everyone is giving you such a hard time OP. Especially as the person clearly didn't read or notice your instructions about leaving parcels in the shed. I'm with you on this.

This is absolutely my position too.

MasterBeth · 01/07/2024 14:35

diddl · 30/06/2024 19:56

No it just needs a key to open it.

If it was locked I would also need to use a key on the inside to open it.

Locked
[Adjective]
Fastened or secured by a lock

Lock
[Noun]
A device for securing a door, gate, lid, drawer or the like in position when closed, consisting of a bolt or system of bolts propelled and withdrawn by a mechanism operated by a key, dial etc.

Your door is secured by a lock which requires a key to open it, therefore it is locked.

Megifer · 01/07/2024 13:51

Shefliesonherownwings · 01/07/2024 12:29

The responses on here are nuts. How is it ok for anyone to try the handle of the front door, open it and then enter the house, whether that be a foot inside or just reaching a hand in to leave something on the floor. I would absolutely not be ok with someone trying my handle and opening my front door unless I agreed they could. I don't think for a second its the DDs fault, no one should be trying that handle full stop. I can't believe everyone is giving you such a hard time OP. Especially as the person clearly didn't read or notice your instructions about leaving parcels in the shed. I'm with you on this.

Especially because elderly people tend to unlock their door if they know someone is due round. My mum keeps hers locked normally but will unlock as she passes if she knows someone is going round at some point then she doesn't have to get back up. She doesnt always hear the door either or just can't get to the door in time (i pick her parcels up if she misses one) if a postie/delivery driver did this to her she'd have a bloody panic attack that would take about a day to come down from 😩

Shefliesonherownwings · 01/07/2024 12:29

The responses on here are nuts. How is it ok for anyone to try the handle of the front door, open it and then enter the house, whether that be a foot inside or just reaching a hand in to leave something on the floor. I would absolutely not be ok with someone trying my handle and opening my front door unless I agreed they could. I don't think for a second its the DDs fault, no one should be trying that handle full stop. I can't believe everyone is giving you such a hard time OP. Especially as the person clearly didn't read or notice your instructions about leaving parcels in the shed. I'm with you on this.

childfreebychoice · 01/07/2024 11:33

willWillSmithsmith · 01/07/2024 07:55

What’s a porch got to do with this thread? OP doesn’t have a porch.

The same principle would apply wherever my front door opened to - hallway/living room/wherever. If I'd left the door unlocked then I'd be pleased if the parcel had been delivered to just inside the door.

bergamotorange · 01/07/2024 11:18

NigelHarmansNewWife · 01/07/2024 11:06

So what if she's 17? We leave the front door unlocked if we're in, but it can't be opened from outside without a key.

That's not unlocked!

NigelHarmansNewWife · 01/07/2024 11:06

DerekFaker · 30/06/2024 18:20

She's 17 ffs!

Do people seriously lock their doors during the day when they are at home??

So what if she's 17? We leave the front door unlocked if we're in, but it can't be opened from outside without a key.

Gcsunnyside23 · 01/07/2024 10:56

Most postie does this, just leaves it in the hall. Much better than it getting wet or stolen. If you don't want people to open your door then lock it

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willWillSmithsmith · 01/07/2024 07:55

childfreebychoice · 30/06/2024 21:20

I don't see the issue here at all. Delivery people often open the door and leave things in our porch if I'm on a Teams call and can't answer the door. I'm just pleased I don't have to go out and collect the parcel.

What’s a porch got to do with this thread? OP doesn’t have a porch.

willWillSmithsmith · 01/07/2024 07:47

mondaytosunday · 01/07/2024 04:22

My sister live in the US (in a major city) and the mailman does this all the time.

That’s rather risky considering how many people are armed and can shoot trespassers in the US.

I can’t understand how so many people are ok about an uninvited person walking into their home (not porch).

Katemax82 · 01/07/2024 06:58

As a former postie I did this if somone had a front porch

Poolstream · 01/07/2024 06:51

My dn is a postman.
He had a parcel to deliver and opened the door to leave it in a porch thinking it would be safer.
The front door was slightly open. He didn’t touch the front door. A dog heard the porch door opening and rushed out and bit his hand.
He not only ended up in hospital on an antibiotic drip he also was disciplined and lucky not to lose his job.

Globules · 01/07/2024 06:07

skyandocean · 01/07/2024 04:45

Get over yourself op!! The postman opened your door and left ur package safely. It was probably an oversight, as they usually open porch doors to leave packages, YES I KNOW U DONT HAVE A PORCH.
N let's be honest, shed at the front of the house, he probably thought its being thrown away,

You've made a post about a non issue.

It seems it's enough of an issue for RM to fire people on 😉 I was unaware of that.

I don't understand what you mean by thinking something is being thrown away because my shed is outside my front door. 🤷 What is going to be thrown away?

OP posts:
cariadlet · 01/07/2024 04:56

Wishiwas24again · 30/06/2024 18:15

When my mum who is no longer with us was worried she’d say she was having kittens , sorry maybe it’s just me

Perfectly normal expression. Nothing wrong with your original "had kittens (real ones)" post or your metaphorical kittens follow up.

On the app and can't see who was picking you up on it but they were unnecessarily rude. Don't take any notice of the dickhead.

skyandocean · 01/07/2024 04:45

Get over yourself op!! The postman opened your door and left ur package safely. It was probably an oversight, as they usually open porch doors to leave packages, YES I KNOW U DONT HAVE A PORCH.
N let's be honest, shed at the front of the house, he probably thought its being thrown away,

You've made a post about a non issue.

Lizzy1980 · 01/07/2024 04:36

This has happened to us on a couple of occasions. Our front door looks like it could lead to a porch when in fact it’s just a small hallway and if the next door is open you can see right into the house. On the very rare occasions it’s happened to us the delivery driver has looked really shocked and apologised profusely. I suppose it depends how far into your house they came???

27Bumblebees · 01/07/2024 04:25

The drip feed is where you've gone wrong OP. The postie definitely should have followed your assigned drop off location, being your shed, and gone on their way.

They either didn't check the details, or ignored them, which isn't great. Then they let themselves in, how far no one knows, but that's also not great. But, what could have gone wrong? You weren't wandering around half naked as your dd was expecting a friend over. And I imagine they popped your post inside the doorway.

So unless they came in and stole belongings etc, i think yabu to get this angry about it. Maybe leave a note on the door to remind the post person that your shed is the spot to leave parcels.

mondaytosunday · 01/07/2024 04:22

My sister live in the US (in a major city) and the mailman does this all the time.

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