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The post person entered my house.

408 replies

Globules · 30/06/2024 16:12

I've just seen it on my Ring doorbell.

17yr old DD had left the door unlocked for her friend so she didn't have to come down to let them in. Not uncommon.

Post arrived, including a parcel, during this time. When no one answered the door, the post person tried the handle, opened up the door and came into my home.

Granted, DD shouldn't have left the door unlocked, but it doesn't make what the post person did ok.

Just me who thinks it was completely unreasonable for them to have even tried the handle?!

OP posts:
tuvamoodyson · 30/06/2024 17:35

Blondiebeachbabe · 30/06/2024 17:32

This is NOT ON! I have multiple dogs in my house (I’m a home boarder), and if a postie opened my door some would escape. I always lock the door just in case.

Then it wouldn’t have happened to you…

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 30/06/2024 17:34

“DD is aware that she can't leave the door open for her friend again. Which makes me really sad, but it's the outcome of yesterday.”

You’re sad because DD can’t leave the door open for her friend? 😂. Tell the lazy lump to haul her arse out of bed and open the door.

Blondiebeachbabe · 30/06/2024 17:32

This is NOT ON! I have multiple dogs in my house (I’m a home boarder), and if a postie opened my door some would escape. I always lock the door just in case.

UnpackingBooksFromBoxes · 30/06/2024 17:32

Globules · 30/06/2024 17:12

I'm not going to complain, as a relative worked for RM for years. Hence being trained to use post person.

There is never a reason to try to open someone's front door unless you think a person inside is in desperate medical need imo. Doesn't matter if they walked in, dropped it in or made themselves lunch. They shouldn't invite themselves into my property without my prior permission.

Especially when the shed right next to them is set up as the safe place to leave parcels.

DD is aware that she can't leave the door open for her friend again. Which makes me really sad, but it's the outcome of yesterday.

Trained to use Post Person

My DH worked for RM until last year for 34 years and has never used post person.

Maybe they thought the front door was a porch door.
It’s really annoyed you so why aren’t you going to report it. They might have form for doing this.

DaughterNo2 · 30/06/2024 17:30

Globules · 30/06/2024 17:21

Like I've said, I don't see either scenario.as acceptable. Both are someone coming into my house uninvited after trying the handle to see if they could.

So basically they’ve opened the door, put the parcel inside and closed the door again. Hardly ‘been in your house’
Lesson to be learnt for your daughter

fieldsofbutterflies · 30/06/2024 17:30

If the shed is the safe place then why would they even try the door handle.

Because it's easier to just pop a parcel in through the door you're already right next to?

beckybarefoot · 30/06/2024 17:28

did they actually come right into the house, is there a porch? where did the parcel get left?

what kind of house it is? terrace? or do you have a garden gate and a path?

my hubby used to be a postie.. and they absolutely would never do this with prior arrangement?

interesting

almondflake · 30/06/2024 17:28

@Globules , I agree they shouldn't enter a house , for their protection as well as your own .
I had the same with an Amazon driver who was very indignant when I asked what the hell he was doing in my house , he told me that the lady of the house had screamed at him to bring the parcel inside which was a lie . I keep my front door locked at all times now because I have 2 dogs and I'd hate them to injure a stranger walking in uninvited onto my home .

tinkertailorsoldierpie · 30/06/2024 17:27

Globules · 30/06/2024 17:25

I don't think I have a regular. Not seen this one before. There's a variety of women and men who deliver to me.

I'll tape a big sign to the shed "parcel drop off point" 😁

Then I would definitely put up a little note directing them. I know it seems like common sense, but a lot of people lack it. It would save you and your family the fright, and the worker from thinking they're doing the right thing. Everyone's happy then.

Sotiredmjmmy · 30/06/2024 17:27

Did they actually step foot into your house though? It seems very much like they didn’t - do you let them open the letter box? I don’t see the difference, both scenarios they remain on the outside whilst dropping in a letter or a parcel.

If you do have an issue with it then there’s a very simple solution - lock your door

fieldsofbutterflies · 30/06/2024 17:27

mapleriver · 30/06/2024 17:07

Yeah I have OCD and normally check the handles 20 times a day, I'd been home for an hour and was doing something in the garden on the other side of the house hence not locking up yet and didn't expect someone to CHECK MY HANDLE and ENTER MY HOME because of an unlocked door, when a safe place is specified and followed 99.9% of the time. He left them in the middle of the kitchen too, not just on the inside of the door and it icked me out that a stranger had been walking in my house while I was home alone.

Why not lock your door behind you if you feel that way?

I wouldn't want anyone walking in my front door either, so I have one that locks immediately behind me.

Fluffyshoesandfleece · 30/06/2024 17:25

Ours always leaves parcels in the hall im just happy not to have to rush to the door !

Globules · 30/06/2024 17:25

tinkertailorsoldierpie · 30/06/2024 17:21

Is it your usual postie or is it someone else? They have just had quite a big employment drive, so if it's a newbie, tell them. If it's your regular and you've let them know before, they should know better. Might be time to just stick a temporary note on the door saying 'If no answer, do not open my door. Use the designated safe space instead. Thank you.'

I don't think I have a regular. Not seen this one before. There's a variety of women and men who deliver to me.

I'll tape a big sign to the shed "parcel drop off point" 😁

OP posts:
Mrsttcno1 · 30/06/2024 17:24

Quite obvious from OP’s replies that all this person did was pop the parcel through the door. What an absolute drama over nothing honestly I think some people just love a winge, they haven’t let themselves in, came into your living room and made themselves a cup of tea. And if you genuinely can’t see the difference between that and what they actually did in this situation then you need to give your head a good shake, and lock your doors

thesummerIturnedtoredbull · 30/06/2024 17:23

trextape · 30/06/2024 16:15

i wonder if DD had left a note for friend saying just let yourself in

but she’s not telling you that!!

Who would leave a hand written note, you’d text..

JaneJeffer · 30/06/2024 17:23

there could have been something personal there
Like what?

EmberAsh · 30/06/2024 17:21

I don't understand why OP is getting such a hard time.
If the shed is the safe place then why would they even try the door handle.
On this occasion the door was unlocked for a pre-arranged reason but if it wasn't it means the postie is just ignoring preferences and trying every door which seems like a strange way to deliver.
Even if they just dropped it in the hallway, there could have been something personal there. It's an invasion of privacy.

tinkertailorsoldierpie · 30/06/2024 17:21

Globules · 30/06/2024 17:18

I'm not disputing that at all.

Just leave it in my shed like I've asked please.

You said yourself that a big notice comes up on the reader.

Is it your usual postie or is it someone else? They have just had quite a big employment drive, so if it's a newbie, tell them. If it's your regular and you've let them know before, they should know better. Might be time to just stick a temporary note on the door saying 'If no answer, do not open my door. Use the designated safe space instead. Thank you.'

Globules · 30/06/2024 17:21

tinkertailorsoldierpie · 30/06/2024 17:18

So answer the question - how long does the doorbell footage show the postie was in there for? Was a quick in and out, just long enough to ensure the parcel wasn't in direct view of the door if someone else were to open it and steal it? Or did the postie have time to go in for a shit and a snack?

Like I've said, I don't see either scenario.as acceptable. Both are someone coming into my house uninvited after trying the handle to see if they could.

OP posts:
trextape · 30/06/2024 17:20

FeelingHotHotHotFeelingHotHotHot · 30/06/2024 17:18

Exactly!

OP: Hey everyone AIBU??

(Almost) everyone: YES!

OP: No I'm not, you're all wrong!

What makes me roll my eyes about the OP is the fact that she happily leaves the door unlocked so often because it's 'not uncommon.' Then throws a massive strop and posts about how outraged she is, because a post-person popped a package into the hallway (after popping in through the UNLOCKED DOOR!)

Don't want people popping in and dropping stuff off inside your hallways? LOCK THE DOORS!!!!!!

Literally facepalming here at the OP!!! 😦

it’s more than that… the OP not just saying she isn’t unreasonable

but clearly censoring what what answers because she knows the answers will….

trextape · 30/06/2024 17:19

put me out of my misery

why check more than 24 hours after this happened?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 30/06/2024 17:19

I would assume that if there's a choice between checking to see whether the door is unlocked and leaving a "sorry you were out" note, they'll check to see whether the door is unlocked.

FeelingHotHotHotFeelingHotHotHot · 30/06/2024 17:18

tuvamoodyson · 30/06/2024 17:14

So, if you’re so sure you’re not being unreasonable, what exactly is your AIBU?

Exactly!

OP: Hey everyone AIBU??

(Almost) everyone: YES!

OP: No I'm not, you're all wrong!

What makes me roll my eyes about the OP is the fact that she happily leaves the door unlocked so often because it's 'not uncommon.' Then throws a massive strop and posts about how outraged she is, because a post-person popped a package into the hallway (after popping in through the UNLOCKED DOOR!)

Don't want people popping in and dropping stuff off inside your hallways? LOCK THE DOORS!!!!!!

Literally facepalming here at the OP!!! 😦

tinkertailorsoldierpie · 30/06/2024 17:18

Globules · 30/06/2024 17:12

I'm not going to complain, as a relative worked for RM for years. Hence being trained to use post person.

There is never a reason to try to open someone's front door unless you think a person inside is in desperate medical need imo. Doesn't matter if they walked in, dropped it in or made themselves lunch. They shouldn't invite themselves into my property without my prior permission.

Especially when the shed right next to them is set up as the safe place to leave parcels.

DD is aware that she can't leave the door open for her friend again. Which makes me really sad, but it's the outcome of yesterday.

So answer the question - how long does the doorbell footage show the postie was in there for? Was a quick in and out, just long enough to ensure the parcel wasn't in direct view of the door if someone else were to open it and steal it? Or did the postie have time to go in for a shit and a snack?

Mitsky · 30/06/2024 17:18

Globules · 30/06/2024 17:16

Both are uninvited scenarios.

A no different to B.

They are quite different to be fair! Opening a door to slide a package into a hallway and then shutting that door straightaway is very different to having a poo in your toilet and making a cup of tea.