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To be worried about my step daughter's behaviour?

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Blasianwoman · 30/06/2024 15:14

Hi everyone,

This has been driving me crazy, and because I am not a mother, I thought I'd ask mothers if this type of behaviour is normal.

I have been with my partner for 3 years, we moved in together in December 2023. He has a 14yo daughter, she comes every other week, they have 50/50.

Now, everytime she needs to go back to her mother's she cries, begs her father and I to stay. She will refuse to get out of the bathroom and say things like " I will clean the entire house everyday if you let me stay." She seems genuinely terrified of something. I have never met her mother, and my step daughter never mentions her or her siblings.

I can't help but feel emotional, sad and even I pleaded with her father to let her stay. I always get the same response " She is a teen... She is manipulating you .... Her mother is great... It's the law... She is being a brat"

But she is not a brat at all, she seems like a happy kid, loves to cook and is respectful. She is affectionate and loves to give hugs and kisses.

She has to go back tonight to her mum's, and right now I can hear her crying and her father screaming at her.

Is this typical for teenagers?

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Slattern77 · 30/06/2024 16:27

wibblywobblywoo · 30/06/2024 15:27

Have to say, first thought goes to abuse by the stepdad. Very, very much hope that's not the case.

Sadly agree. Please help her OP! Her dad isn’t doing his job

Blasianwoman · 30/06/2024 16:26

@AstonMartha Yes I can contact the school, and will do. I really can't cope with the situation. It happens every single time.
She could live with us, but I suspect he doesn't want her with us full time.

I am 30, mother is 38 and partner 47.

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TheShellBeach · 30/06/2024 16:25

.......................and her dad is always at work or freaking out with his immature friends

WTF?

OP you sound grounded, and you're clearly concerned for this girl.

Your husband sounds like a nasty, immature, abusive POS on the other hand.

Can you get away from him? It doesn't sound like you even respect him, never mind love him.

And the way he's treating his daughter is appalling.

Fangisnotacoward · 30/06/2024 16:25

You sound like a good caring stepmum.

Her behaviour sounds like something is very wrong at her mums house. As pp suggested can you take her out of your home to talk, park or country walk, get a coffee or hot choc, somewhere quiet? If you want to be there and support her, tell her so.

I feel sorry for her, she sounds like a good kid and she really must be getting the vi e from her dad that she's not wanted there, nor at her mums/stepdaughter either. Poor girl.

biscuitandcake · 30/06/2024 16:24

The way she is acting isn't normal "teenage" behaviour. However, your partner might feel there is little he can do. Him saying "its the law" is true - he has no more power to not send her back to her mums than if it was the other way round. He might be getting defensive because of that. However, there are things he can do. One is (as others suggested) he talks to her in a calm way when it isn't time for her to go home. Sometime when there isn't any pressure on either of them - while in the car is good for this. I too think SA is possible (it could be other stuff too) - but I wouldn't go suggesting that to her or even necessarily him. You don't want to be left wondering if she is just repeating what was suggested (or leave it open to others arguing that). Whatever the reason is - its better it comes from her. At her age she can have more influence over where she lives. But there is a risk you get accused of "parental alienation" so be careful how you move.

Butchyrestingface · 30/06/2024 16:24

I'd be concerned she's being molested by one of the non-biologically related males she lives with. Someone must be awfully wrong at home such that she would prefer to live with a nasty bastard who screams at her and dismisses her distress out of hand no doubt because actually addressing it would cause inconvenience for him.

I hope you're not planning to bring any progeny into this union, @Blasianwoman. You've had a bird's eye view of how he treats the kid he's already got so no need for you to spread the misery still further. Are you a lot younger than him?

melodypondisasuperhero · 30/06/2024 16:24

Reading this makes me tense up because it brought back so vividly that desperation to stay at my dad’s and not have to go to my mum’s. My stepdad was never physically abusive so I don’t think I could have put it into words at the time why I didn’t want to go there; it’s only really afterwards I’ve recognised that he (and my mum to some extent) were emotionally abusive and that being forced to be there caused a lot of long term harm. The fact that she’s acting so very desperate is a huge red flag and I’m glad you’re picking up on it even though her dad doesn’t seem to be.

Pantaloons99 · 30/06/2024 16:23

This is so awful. She is so lucky to have you 🙏 If it were me, I'd do everything I could do maintain connection. I wish you could lose the husband and care for SD yourself.

It might not be physical/ sexual abuse but it could just be emotional hell. They're possibly narcissist/ sociopathic at best.

Your husband is a major problem here OP. You should not be with someone like this

AstonMartha · 30/06/2024 16:22

Are you quite young @Blasianwoman ?
I wonder if this happened before you moved in and if it’s having a female that she gets on well with. Someone who is more of a friend than a parent figure?

If you are genuinely concerned that she is living in an abusive situation then maybe approach her school with your concerns.
Your DP sounds awful.

Shessweetbutapsycho · 30/06/2024 16:22

This makes me feel so uneasy. A stepdad and two older boys in the home, coupled with her behaviour, makes me very concerned. When things are calm between you and her dad can you try and get him to consider any alternative scenarios to just her being ‘manipulative’?

Ariela · 30/06/2024 16:21

Can you speak to the safeguarding lead at the school?
Seems she is desperate not to go back to her mum's house, whatever the reason is, she needs to be able to talk about it, maybe someone neutral via the school might be best?

pandasorous · 30/06/2024 16:21

@Blasianwoman I would involve social services

also, please consider leaving your partner, he is a vile abusive man

Garlicnaan · 30/06/2024 16:21

Blasianwoman · 30/06/2024 16:17

@StripeyDeckchair

It's always the stepdad or older brothers that come and pick her up. I once sent the mother a Facebook message and it was a huuuuuge drama. She blocked me, complained to my partner about it, she got mad at me for weeks. So I gave up.

Poor girl, both her parents sounds awful.

Portfun24 · 30/06/2024 16:19

No it's not normal and I feel so sorry having been there. Luckily my dad let me move in with him. At 14 court would listen to her wishes now and if she wanted to live with her father that would be granted.

Garlicnaan · 30/06/2024 16:19

Your partner is vile and a truly shit dad. How you can stay with him I have no idea.

That aside, keep trying with SD to get her to open up. Could you ask her if something happened at home? It could "just" be her step dad is really shouty or she clashes with her step siblings. It doesn't necessarily mean abuse. Until she starts talking, you're none the wiser.

SallyWD · 30/06/2024 16:18

LondonWeeknd · 30/06/2024 16:14

The two older boys stood out for me. This really can't be ignored any longer.

But she's repeatedly mentioning the stepfather being the problem. Something's going on.

AliceMcK · 30/06/2024 16:18

Your DH sounds like a dick, it is not normal behaviour, yes teenagers can be manipulative but this sounds like there is something going on at her mums.

you need a calm conversation with your DH, tell him it is not normal and if he thinks you should but out then he needs to be the one who spends time with her not you as she’s nothing to do with you, as he says. No teenagers get on their knees clinging and screaming not to go home for no reason.

As for SDD I’d be contacting social services and reporting your concerns if your dh dosnt wake up. They can do the right checks. Maybe contact her school too. In fact school first, they will have a relationship with her and can ask the right questions.

Seeingadistance · 30/06/2024 16:17

Something is very badly wrong here - that poor girl. And her father is abusive too - screaming at her when she's clearly distressed.

Blasianwoman · 30/06/2024 16:17

@StripeyDeckchair

It's always the stepdad or older brothers that come and pick her up. I once sent the mother a Facebook message and it was a huuuuuge drama. She blocked me, complained to my partner about it, she got mad at me for weeks. So I gave up.

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pandasorous · 30/06/2024 16:17

wibblywobblywoo · 30/06/2024 15:27

Have to say, first thought goes to abuse by the stepdad. Very, very much hope that's not the case.

that was my first thought too

SallyWD · 30/06/2024 16:16

Blasianwoman · 30/06/2024 16:10

Thanks everyone. I will try to address all the questions in this comment

  • Out of the 5 siblings, 3 are her mum's children, 2 older boys are the dad bio kids. But they live them. She is her parents only child.
  • I wasn't living with them before, so I never realised how bad the situation was. I used to see on weekends maybe once a month before I moved in with him
  • Yes, I do most of the "parenting" job when she's there. We often are alone on the weekends because he goes out with his stupid friends.
  • I really have tried to ask her, but she either cries or asks me to stop talking about it. So far all I know is that she doesn't like the mum's husband.
  • No, she doesn't have her own room at her mum's

I think the fact she cries and says she doesn't want to talk about it is concerning. If she was manipulative or making things up she'd say more. I feel she's hiding something.

And your partner is leaving the parenting to you while he goes out with his mates. Awful! This all makes me feel very sad.

Blasianwoman · 30/06/2024 16:15

@jeaux90

Yes, you are right. I try too but it is always the same answers : I hate stepdad ... Please just let me stay ... Once I am 18 I will never see my family again ... Why do want to know, just let me stay ... I want to live here ... stepdad is horrible .... Mum is not a nice woman

My partner also heard all this, but he thinks I am also being "too emotional" or that " You want to be a mum so you project, if we break up you will never see her again blablabla.

He makes me feel like I am crazy sometimes.

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LondonWeeknd · 30/06/2024 16:14

The two older boys stood out for me. This really can't be ignored any longer.

SeulementUneFois · 30/06/2024 16:13

Most likely abuse, either the stepfather or his older boys.

SallyWD · 30/06/2024 16:13

I can't believe he's screaming at her!! What a bizarre response. If I was her dad I'd be very concerned and wanting to get to the bottom of it.
Instead he's dismissing her, screaming at her, saying she's a brat etc. Why?! Because he doesn't want her moving in?
Perhaps she's being sexually or physically abused or neglected. I have a DD that age and it's not normal. Something is going on.