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To think that asking people if they have kids is an innocent question

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SiberFox · 30/06/2024 15:10

Two of my best friends are childless not by choice and finding it hard, and I’m learning to navigate that as a friend with a baby. Blogs, podcasts and forums for the childless have been really helpful for me to better understand how they might be feeling/what not to say etc, as well as my personal experience of recurrent miscarriage. I am on board with most advice I’ve seen so far.

However, something that I’ve seen frequently on there is the condemnation of the “do you have children?” question - it keeps bugging me. I understand where it comes from - when you’re grieving, it must be triggering, uncomfortable, painful to be reminded of that/to try and find an adequate answer. But the conclusion that it should therefore be banned as a “lazy”, “insensitive”, “triggering” question just seems like an overreaction? It’s not like asking a stranger how many kids they’ve got which would be stupid and insensitive as an assumption, it’s just establishing a basic fact about the person. I’ve seen many people say that it’s completely not interesting/irrelevant as you get to know the person, but how is it irrelevant? It’s literally one of the major things to know about someone.

I’m finding the “Where do you come from” question uncomfortable at the moment because my country is screwing up politically on the global arena but it doesn’t make me think that we should ban the question. Anything can be triggering - asking about someone’s line of work (what if they’re unemployed), etc etc, where do we draw the line?

AIBU that there is nothing wrong with the question per se? Or am I lacking empathy here?

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SewingIsMySuperPower · 30/06/2024 15:28

I think the problem with the question is how you handle the answer. If someone says yes, you can ask about their child/ren. If someone says no, what's the reaction? Asking why is definitely an intrusive and potentially rude question. But I'd imagine that's the next thing most people would say.

I'm childfree and have no issue with being asked. But I know too many people for who it would be an upsetting question.

Changingplace · 30/06/2024 15:27

OneTC · 30/06/2024 15:20

I don't mind if someone asks if we have children. Why don't we have children is different though.

Absolutely this, I have no issue with someone asking, but once they’re told no - leave it at that, do not ask why, I do not want to discuss that with someone over idle chit chat thank you.

LoveBluey · 30/06/2024 15:22

I think asking as part of getting to know someone is usually ok and not many people would be offended.
What is a problem is when people seem unable to take the answer and move on but continually question why they don't have kids or ask when they are going to start a family. That's when it can be upsetting as you need to defend / explain your choices (which of course might not always be your choice)

HuongVuong3 · 30/06/2024 15:21

OneTC · 30/06/2024 15:20

I don't mind if someone asks if we have children. Why don't we have children is different though.

Agree.

HuongVuong3 · 30/06/2024 15:21

In my opinion a far worse question is one that I've had a few times, which is 'how old are your children?' And then the embarrassed silence when I answer that I don't have any.

At least the 'do you have children?' question acknowledges the fact that some of us don't!

OneTC · 30/06/2024 15:20

I don't mind if someone asks if we have children. Why don't we have children is different though.

GRex · 30/06/2024 15:18

As a first question when you meet someone it's a bit intrusive, but when you've known someone a little while it seems a strange thing not to know. Work colleagues for example, it's fairly usual for someone to ask at some point if it isn't made clear. If people don't want to be asked, they could preempt it by a comment making it clear e.g. "the 2 of us are going to X".

CharlotteStreetW1 · 30/06/2024 15:18

I couldn't have children and have never been offended by being asked the question.

FOJN · 30/06/2024 15:17

I agree, it's like asking are you married or what do you do for a living.

Someone could be going through a messy divorce, widowed or desperate to find the right partner and there can be a multitude of reasons why someone doesn't work.

I understand those types questions might be painful for anyone experiencing difficulties but people don't ask with ill intent, it's just small talk.

NuffSaidSam · 30/06/2024 15:16

I think if it's 'literally one of the major things to know about someone' and they want you to know then they'll volunteer that information. There's no need to ask.

That said, I don't think it's a terrible, awful question to ask in the context of getting to know someone as a friend. Outside of that, e.g at work or with someone you've just met it's a no go.

BobbyBiscuits · 30/06/2024 15:15

I find it's acceptable to ask of women, but not many people would immediately ask it if a man.
I wouldn't leap to asking that of someone, I'd assume it would come out organically.
But it's not offensive when they ask to just say 'no' and then the person moves on the convo. What's offensive is if they follow it with 'oh, why?/ Oh, that's a shame' etc.
I have answered with 'because I have no interest in ruining my body for someone who'll turn round and hate me most probably' lol