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LaLaPoo · 30/06/2024 12:17

I have been doing temporary work for the past 3yrs after having many years off being a SAHM, yes I was fortunate to be able to be at home!

Now I find myself in my mid 40s and unable to find a permanent job. I apply for so many, rarely get interviews and when I do, I hear nothing back. It’s really starting to get me down. My current job is only seasonal so come the winter I’ll be worrying about how I’m going to pay my bills etc again. I find the pay divide is making such a difference (why employ someone on a higher MW when you can take on a 16yr old and pay them a much lower rate!) seems employers are not bothered about experience anymore? I also wonder if my size puts potential employers off as I’m a size 20 🤷🏻‍♀️

Any advice on what to do would be a great help.

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WinterTreacle · 30/06/2024 14:41

Have you been on to the ‘NHS Jobs’ website?
This is where we advertise and there are all sorts of non-clinical jobs and roles. You apply through the website itself rather than a CV.

LaLaPoo · 30/06/2024 14:37

gardenmusic · 30/06/2024 14:15

OP may I ask if you have a well written CV? I don't mean to sound patronising, but it could be better to have it done by an 'expert'.
You have a lot of skills, customer service, management, voluntary sector, hospitality, and they need to be highlighted.
You are clearly good with people. How about a paid charity job? There are quite a few websites for this.

I had my CV professionally written which highlights all my skills.

i honestly don’t know what I’m doing wrong?

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Ihatemondays1962 · 30/06/2024 14:15

GellerYeller · 30/06/2024 13:32

“Indeed isn't the best way to apply. Its good for searching but when we get applications its obvious who has applied via Indeed and who has taken the time to apply directly via our website with a tailored cv/applucation.”

Not sure why you’d discount so many candidates because they’ve used indeed- where the employer has to have posted their advert in the first place? And I’m saying this as an employer. How are potentially good candidates supposed to know they’re screened out by not applying directly?

When so many firms require detailed application processes it’s in the employer’s interest to simplify the process to avoid putting people off.

We value McDonalds experience as a route to entry level positions. Disciplined, well trained and they also pay more than the bare legal minimum for teens.

It is because indeed sends out a standard application with perhaps one or two general paragraphs which are not tailored to the job. The requirements on our website asks for a supporting statement detailing how they meet the essential criteria. That's how we would assess. It's very obvious which applications have come via indeed. If they can't look at our application process and make sure they do what is asked then they wouldn't be suitable.

gardenmusic · 30/06/2024 14:15

OP may I ask if you have a well written CV? I don't mean to sound patronising, but it could be better to have it done by an 'expert'.
You have a lot of skills, customer service, management, voluntary sector, hospitality, and they need to be highlighted.
You are clearly good with people. How about a paid charity job? There are quite a few websites for this.

GellerYeller · 30/06/2024 13:49

Agree with the advice above and please put the relevant skills and experience in your opening paragraph so they don’t skim past and dismiss it. Also if the ad has skills as keywords like ‘customer service’ or hospitality make sure you mention those more than once in case they’re using computers to screen applications. Keep your achievements measurable’started this role at x level of experience in x and progressed to advanced/qualified within x months’. Something like that.

Agapornis · 30/06/2024 13:43

Jobs advertised through Facebook and Indeed tend to skew to low or commission only pay, and low qualifications. For big local employers check their own website. But above all you need CV, application, and interview help. Have a look at how your local library and council can help. Sometimes they offer job clubs, free or cheap courses through the adult learning service, etc. After you've honed this, perhaps you could try LinkedIn - again make sure your LinkedIn page gets reviewed, just like your CV.

E.g. If you don't hear back at all, it'll be because you're not writing what they need to know. What people usually forget is that you need to explain how you match each of the listed essential and desirable skills on the job description.

LaLaPoo · 30/06/2024 13:33

Thank you all so much for all the replies and advice you have given. I certainly will be looking at a course to retrain with the skills I’ve got.

I was out of work for 13yrs but did a little voluntary work and also did a few months working in admin which I absolutely hated.

Unfortunately a lot of hospitality work around here is zero hours contract so that’s no good for me.

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GellerYeller · 30/06/2024 13:32

“Indeed isn't the best way to apply. Its good for searching but when we get applications its obvious who has applied via Indeed and who has taken the time to apply directly via our website with a tailored cv/applucation.”

Not sure why you’d discount so many candidates because they’ve used indeed- where the employer has to have posted their advert in the first place? And I’m saying this as an employer. How are potentially good candidates supposed to know they’re screened out by not applying directly?

When so many firms require detailed application processes it’s in the employer’s interest to simplify the process to avoid putting people off.

We value McDonalds experience as a route to entry level positions. Disciplined, well trained and they also pay more than the bare legal minimum for teens.

GingerPirate · 30/06/2024 13:31

Really?
OK. 🙄

Abc1weabc1 · 30/06/2024 13:27

I got myself a private hire badge from the local council, and walked into my chosen private hire/taxi office and asked if they were taking on drivers.
I started the next day and have been doing it for 6 years.
I choose my own hours, never work weekends, evenings or school holidays, and am fine financially as a single person.
I'm 50 and female.

Iloveeverycat · 30/06/2024 13:22

I wouldn't go through indeed search sainsbury's jobs there is a website just for recruitment put in your postcode and it comes up with every job in your area.

BobbyBiscuits · 30/06/2024 13:20

Could you work from home? There are a few places where you conduct market and social research surveys on the phone from home. They send you the kit you need, as long as you have computer. One I know pays London living wage, wherever you are. They do flexible shifts too.
That might be a good thing, though it's not permanent, there's usually plenty of work for people who are good. It's only talking to people and asking questions for government bodies etc.

OhMaria2 · 30/06/2024 13:15

2chocolateoranges · 30/06/2024 13:03

I was working in minimum wage jobs while our children were young . It suited us as a family as it meant we had no childcare issues as one of us were always home.

Once our children were both finishing high school I went to college and retrained. Best thing I've ever done. Near enough doubled my wages by doing this and still only work part time.

What did you retrain as?
I'm a SAHM longing it out as much as possible because I'm stumped what to next after quitting teaching.

Ihatemondays1962 · 30/06/2024 13:15

Indeed isn't the best way to apply. Its good for searching but when we get applications its obvious who has applied via Indeed and who has taken the time to apply directly via our website with a tailored cv/applucation.

ShortnStout87 · 30/06/2024 13:14

I’d recommend going on the national careers service and doing the skills test as it sounds like you’ve got a lot of transferable skills that you can use and gives options for career opportunities that you wouldn’t have thought. There’s also cv help, you can find courses. https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/skills-assessment

Work on interview skills structure answers in the STAR format (Situation, Task, Action, Result) have a few good examples for questions such as show a time where you’ve shown leadership skills. Reed is a great resource for this. https://www.reed.co.uk/career-advice/

When you get an interview try and use example’s that link to the job description so you can demonstrate what you would bring to the role.

Just want to wish you luck the job market is really tough at the moment, I’ve only just got back in and it is tough mentally to keep putting yourself out there but it will happen.

Skills assessment | National Careers Service

https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/skills-assessment

Iloveeverycat · 30/06/2024 13:13

Sorry missed update about retail management. They are always looking for colleagues or trading managers.

Iloveeverycat · 30/06/2024 13:10

At Sainsbury's the 16 year olds get the same as the adults £12 an hour so they don't favour younger people.

twistyizzy · 30/06/2024 13:06

OP you need a 2 pronged approach here. Firstly you need qualifications, look to see what your local college offers. As a minimum you need maths + English Level 2/GCSE plus digital skills.
Then you need to start looking at what work you want to do and start gaining experience in it ie as well as working in a bar volunteer in a charity shop etc. Anything to get your CV filled.
A PP Is correct that it is length of the gap in your CV that is now the issue. I appreciate mums take time off for different reasons but unless it is unavoidable to do so I would never recommend staying at home full time. Your earning power diminishes each year you are out of work.

2chocolateoranges · 30/06/2024 13:03

I was working in minimum wage jobs while our children were young . It suited us as a family as it meant we had no childcare issues as one of us were always home.

Once our children were both finishing high school I went to college and retrained. Best thing I've ever done. Near enough doubled my wages by doing this and still only work part time.

SisterAgatha · 30/06/2024 13:01

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socks1107 · 30/06/2024 12:58

I was also airline cabin crew for ten years and in management and have had no issues with a career since leaving.
I do a bit of recruitment and would say your gap in employment is maybe your biggest issue.
NHS have been brilliant since leaving the airline, I've a career ( not nursing) and scope to progress. As ex crew you have a lot of skills and experience. Could you register on the staff bank at your local nhs trust - many job opportunities and see what job you like?

jeaux90 · 30/06/2024 12:56

Lots of free skills bootcamps on the government website (assuming you are UK)

Youtoldmeonce · 30/06/2024 12:55

Would you consider care work, I understand that there is a lack of care workers at the moment.

ImPunbelievable · 30/06/2024 12:52

If you're working in a bar can you not do it year long elsewhere? Hospitality is still horribly short of people - larger chains will also have management options

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