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To ask this woman to stop?!

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MarriedMama23 · 30/06/2024 08:25

It's really starting to bother me now but I'm annoyingly polite.

Basically I have a driveway and quite often I will put things at the end of it (within my boundaries) for passing tat men to take away.

Recently there's this woman that walks past quite often as I think she lives nearby, if there is something at the end of my driveway, she will pick it up and come knock my door. Conversation went a bit like:

Her: You left this outside
Me: Yeah, I put it out for the scrap men, it's broken/don't want it anymore
Her: ....
Me: You can have it if you want it?
Her: head tilt, confused looking at me and item no...
Me: Can you pop it back where it was then please?

She did so but she keeps doing it! Always similar variation of this conversation above. She will pick the item up (most recently, an old broken speaker) and trot up to my door to tell me I left it outside? Why? How do I explain to this woman? I'm fairly sure she's native English speaking so I don't think it's a language barrier?

Aibu?

OP posts:
MotherJessAndKittens · 30/06/2024 12:54

Never heard of this!

Maray1967 · 30/06/2024 12:55

unospaghetto · 30/06/2024 09:20

I’ve never seen anyone doing this leaving rubbish at the bottom of the driveway and I have lived in several different UK cities. We did have people knock the door and ask if they could take items from our skip when renovating.

We left the cooker and have left radiators out several times - we put notes on saying they can be taken. They’re on our property, not the pavement. It’s never taken more than a day or two before they’re gone.

Ixoral · 30/06/2024 13:03

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 30/06/2024 09:41

Sounds like you can't be bothered to dispose of stuff properly.
It would like really unpleasant seeing unwanted crap at the roadside.
Are you calling the people to take it or is it just when they might be passing?

It isn’t left on the roadside but on OP’s own drive.
Not everyone can drive or are able to get to a tip.
People make a living out of going round collecting scrap metal/old electrical equipment.

It’s common practice in some areas to leave these items outside & they are soon gone.

Cherrysoup · 30/06/2024 13:04

Perfectly normal round our way. The local scrap man (he’s a traveller, I used to teach him!) takes any metal. Clearing out idiot tenant’s rubbish the other day and one of the neighbours looked and asked to take a kid’s watering can/a lunchbox. Very happy it wasn’t going into landfill otherwise.

I took 6 carloads to the tip and was really disappointed that they couldn’t accept a glass topped table because they aren’t allowed to take glass, not even in the re-sell shop. Had to dismantle it and dispose of the glass in the hardcore skip. And no, I wasn’t going to take it home, store it somewhere, clean it up, take photos, offer it on Freecycle only for nobody to turn up.

Fraaahnces · 30/06/2024 13:09

I’d roll my eyes at her and say “Are we playing this game again… really? Someone’s coming to get it. Put it back, please.”

Sweetvalleyhigh1234 · 30/06/2024 13:10

Op just be careful in doing this if anything they take ends up being fly tipped and can be traced to you (obviously alot can't) then you will be fined and council won't care that you just left it outside you will be charged for the disposable of it.

Buntycat · 30/06/2024 13:11

Snowpatrolling · 30/06/2024 10:22

Just tell her to stop touching your stuff that’s on your property and the next time she knocks your door you will call the police as she is clearly harassing you. Say this is her warning that she steps foot on your property she is trespassing and you will also defend your home by any means necessary.

Over-reaction…

FeelingHotHotHotFeelingHotHotHot · 30/06/2024 13:12

Snowpatrolling · Today 10:22

Just tell her to stop touching your stuff that’s on your property and the next time she knocks your door you will call the police as she is clearly harassing you. Say this is her warning that she steps foot on your property she is trespassing and you will also defend your home by any means necessary.

WTAF?! 😂

MumonabikeE5 · 30/06/2024 13:25

thesummerIturnedtoredbull · 30/06/2024 10:55

But it’s the exact opposite, how can you not understand this?

They take the metal or parts they can sell and flytip the rest where they won’t get caught or charged. It goes to landfill and someone else has to take it to the tip or it hurts animals etc.

I guess I have a very central London perspective. The waste left after the scrappers have taken what they want doesn’t hurt animals here and the waste left behind if swiftly removed. With less going to landfill.

TeabySea · 30/06/2024 13:26

Desertislandparadise · 30/06/2024 08:56

Have to say this whole thread is weird to me. Is this the norm in the UK?

Not where I am, but perhaps in other areas. I can understand once or twice a year leaving something outside with a note on saying 'free' but regularly leaving things out, even if on your own property in the hope that someone else will take it is just fly-tipping. You don't know what will happen to the stuff once it's taken away, particularly if it's broken stuff, or items containing materials that need to be responsibly recycled.
Whilst it can be difficult to get to a tip nowadays (certainly in my area) it's better to dispose of unwanted and broken items through the correct channels.

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 30/06/2024 13:29

better to dispose of unwanted and broken items through the correct channels.

The correct channel for me would be paying the council to collect and dispose and it's still left at the bottom of the property highly visible for collection - and I expect the woman OP is encountering would still have a problem with that.

pigsDOfly · 30/06/2024 13:41

Well, given you have a responsibility to ensure that anything you dispose of isn't fly tipped, it would probably be better to dispose of unwanted things via the tip, local authority collection or collection by a registered disposal company. Then you can be sure your rubbish isn't ending up on some random beauty spot.

Like pp, I'm puzzled about how these incidences with this woman could be happening on a regular basis.

How many times a year are you needing to dispose of such things OP?

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 30/06/2024 13:42

I'm amazed at people who don't have the faintest idea what a tat man could be - especially in the context of this thread.

We're also getting some peak MN responses from people who believe that the only 'correct' way to do something is the way that they choose to do it.

Some people are harumphing about calling the council to uplift waste, just because it costs money and thus 'seems the right thing to do'. What's the point calling out and paying the council to take something that you have to drag to the end of your drive - so it still sits there for a little while offending neighbours with nothing else to worry about - and then tat men come and take it before the council come on a wasted trip anyway? And that's if you can afford the council uplift cost, that not everybody can.

Not everybody has a vehicle to take rubbish to the tip - or the rubbish is dirty and will mess up their car and/or they aren't strong enough to lift it in. A lot of tips are very restrictive in opening times or what they take. Charity shops and re-use charities can be difficult to get to, or very picky about what stuff they will take.

As for those saying that they don't believe this has been a tradition for a very long time, just because it hasn't been in their area - or at least not that they've noticed - don't you realise that this is a very simple, environmentally-friendly way of moving goods from people who no longer need or want them to people who can use them, keeping them out of landfill?

OnTheRightSideOfGeography · 30/06/2024 13:47

I'm also bemused at the fact that MN is usually so very 'anti-clutter' that you're a hoarder if you keep your baby's hospital identity bracelet or your deceased Grandma's wedding ring - but when people regularly clear stuff out and leave it for people who can make use of it and will take it away quickly, you're still in the wrong!

Bodeganights · 30/06/2024 13:59

deeahgwitch · 30/06/2024 08:55

We don't have a "passing tat man" to take things away for free.

I wish we did.

Misses point of thread.

Neither do we, but everytime I've put something out, it's gone the same day. I suspect someone on our street contacts the scrap man.
A dryer lasted 20 minutes once, an old cooker 30 mins. The enamrl, green bath tub though, nope, we had to take that ourselves.

Otherstories2002 · 30/06/2024 14:09

2dogsandabudgie · 30/06/2024 08:51

That's very frequent. Washing machines and large items like that last years. Smaller items like saucepans could be donated to a charity shop.

She’s not putting a washing machine out every few weeks 😂

Discombobble · 30/06/2024 14:11

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 30/06/2024 09:42

Recycling centres have areas for items that could be refurbished on passed on.

And if everyone did what the OP is doing places would look horrific. Do you understand social responsibility?

As per a pp, I used to live in Bristol, in a VERY middle class area - very normal to put unwanted items on your front wall at the weekends for people to take - and quite a sociable activity going around doing just that. And no, our tip did not have an area to help yourself. It’s called recycling and was seen as a positive thing, so very socially responsible!

RampantIvy · 30/06/2024 14:21

MarriedMama23 · 30/06/2024 08:33

I disagree, thanks though!

I disagree with you, and so do many others. It wouldn't occur to me to help myself to something left at the bottom of someone's drive.

I cannot understand why it is beyond your comprehension that a lot of people think like I do and just wouldn't take things from other people's property.

Just put a sign saying "Free". It isn't difficult.

We don't have a "tat man" round here, but if you want scrap metal taking away people put a post up on Facebook.

I am clearing out our loft and going to put a "free to a good home" on Facbeook later for stuff I don't want, but is in perfectly good condition.

FangsForTheMemory · 30/06/2024 14:23

It’s a passive-aggressive way of telling you she doesn’t like you leaving stuff on your drive. While I wouldn’t like a neighbour doing this, I’d be so pissed off with this woman’s behaviour, I’d be leaving stuff out there every other day, just to get on her nerves.

HobbitDreader · 30/06/2024 14:37

I think there's a good chance this woman is lonely and this is a way of having a conversation with someone.

If you don't want to talk to her, just stop answering the front door when she knocks.

godmum56 · 30/06/2024 14:39

pigsDOfly · 30/06/2024 13:41

Well, given you have a responsibility to ensure that anything you dispose of isn't fly tipped, it would probably be better to dispose of unwanted things via the tip, local authority collection or collection by a registered disposal company. Then you can be sure your rubbish isn't ending up on some random beauty spot.

Like pp, I'm puzzled about how these incidences with this woman could be happening on a regular basis.

How many times a year are you needing to dispose of such things OP?

round here the registered (licenced) disposal company IS the tat man

StaunchMomma · 30/06/2024 14:48

Shan5474 · 30/06/2024 12:34

Surely it depends on what the tone of the neighbourhood already is. But would the woman also knock on the door of someone who had a skip in their driveway or a roll of carpet or a boiler they’ve just replaced - things that are obviously on their way to the tip and there’s nowhere else to store them. In a very rich area perhaps people wouldn’t be “common” like that but in “average” areas one or two things every now and then seems pretty normal. It’s not like it’s piles of broken junk out there for months (like one house on my street 🙈)

Oh, it's weird behaviour, no question.

Just wondered if she was a bit of a 'Mrs Bucket'.

pigsDOfly · 30/06/2024 14:52

godmum56 · 30/06/2024 14:39

round here the registered (licenced) disposal company IS the tat man

Ah ok.

Thatcat · 30/06/2024 14:58

Simonjt · 30/06/2024 08:34

Its likely making the street look messy and unkempt, a bit like fly tipping in a rural layby.

Are you checking the person collecting your rubbish has an appropriate waste license??

V much agree with @Simonjt, OP.
Sorry if that’s not what you want to hear.

Greentapemeasure · 30/06/2024 15:05

If she knocks again say something like “oh [big sigh] it’s you again, look you really need to stop knocking on my door, I sometimes leave things out for the scrap man, if someone does leave something on my drive without me knowing I’ll find it next time I go out, now piss off”