To ask who you are voting for?

@cardibach
I thin’ you are worrying about nothing. You’ve decided to fret about something there’s zero indication he’s even thinking of.
Are we speaking at cross purposes? Are you alluding to the Labour Party raising taxes? I’ve told you I’m concerned about how additional money will be levied but worrying about Starmer’s stance on single sex rights.
Challenge accepted. Triple lock introduced by Conservatives and Lib Dems in 2010, raising of personal allowance, a period without stamp duty which facilitated a younger generation to get on the housing ladder, 30 hours free child care (though I grant you the loss of Sure Start is reprehensible).
Over to you. Using facts, not opinions, convince me why I should join my fellow constituents and vote Labour.

Having a wife and a daughter has never stopped a man being a misogynist

Trans people are a tiny group and in addition a tiny if not minuscule threat to women.

Agree. I've been thinking this for quite some time.

There are a lot of power hungry men with wives & daughters who would sell them out for more glory. You see it every day. So, so many misogynists with intelligent wives, partners, mothers and sisters who simply do not care for their rights or opinions. What makes you believe Keir is any different?

Keir Starmer has an intelligent wife and 13 year old daughter. Do you really think he doesn’t care about women?

Women aren't a tiny group though?

We have a good Tory MP, so she got my postal vote. Complete conservative stronghold here.

I can’t believe that anyone can look around the country and world as it is right now and then decide to vote (or not) on the basis of a tiny minority of people’s genitalia.

It just baffles me.

My daughter has a lot more to fear from straight men than from any trans person, as do I. We both have more to fear from the climate crisis than anything else. And in the day to day I worry about my pay and my bills. And an unfolding genocide backed by the supposed leaders of the western world

Voting or refusing to vote on a single issue basis when the issue is the rights of a tiny group just seems like a luxury no one can afford.

I'm sorry for the child who has been castrated and has no sex drive. I can't imagine what that must be like to be robbed of that for life.

As the mother of a nearly trans 'daughter' this difficulty hadn't even occurred to me when my son came to me to say he was thinking about his gender identity....I got a very quick crash course in gender identity at that point.

I believe my child is also no threat to women but I am so glad he is not going in to spaces where he might intimidate, scare or make women uncomfortable due to simply being a male in a woman's space. I am pleased that he is affording women privacy to deal with periods, speak about elements of being and growing up with a female body and so on.

Like many women I use a menstrual cup to deal with periods. It can be very tempting to use a disabled toilet so that the sink is right there but I am not disabled and I know that for disabled people who's struggles in particular include continence, being in a disabled toilet when they need it might be the difference between them having a good day out and having to go home and change. Sorry but I think it's important to acknowledge this.

It's interesting how almost any time women speak and say things that are not approved of however it's referred to as screeching, screaming and so on. The misogyny is awful.

Reform

I absolutely agree with this point. Well done

Blimey.

I have sent my postal vote and I have voted Conservative.

Our Tory MP has always been visible and his views on what should be done about certain issues affecting our local area largely align with mine.

The labour candidate doesn’t even live locally and in fact lives in an inner city area so not sure why she would care about the issues affecting a rural shire constituency. Also I won’t vote for a party whose leader believes that women can have penises and men can have a cervix. The VAT on private schools is politics of envy and race to the bottom approach.

Our family fits the description of what someone upthread described as an ordinary working family/squeezed middle and labour will likely increase our taxes and make us worse off.

Would not vote Lib Dem or Green either due to women’s rights either.

I thin’ you are worrying about nothing. You’ve decided to fret about something there’s zero indication he’s even thinking of.
Re these Tories being the worst government I can remember, of course it’s a value judgement/opinion. I would challenge you to point out anything good they’ve achieved though - anything which has made your life better.

@cardibach So you’re saying you’re worrying he’ll do something he’s promised not to do as an excuse for voting to enable the worst government I can ever remember?
Whilst Karmer has stated he’ll honour triple lock, he needs to raise revenue. I don’t assume he’ll manage to levy funds without affecting me and whilst he’s vowed to protect working families, being retired I’m not in that section.
Does this smack of greed and selfishness? Let’s see. To supplement my pension should I enter the employment market as I’m experienced, flexible (not needing child care, but providing it gratis which would have a further impact on my AC and their children) and deprive the younger generation who are trying to get on to or climbing the housing ladder and making ends meet? Would that be fair? I don’t think so and I hope not to be squeezed into such a position. I’m not “economically active” but I have a role in two generations’ lives and am concerned by Starmer’s obfuscation in the face of Jane’s question on Radio 5 Live. Well done, that mumsnetter, and thank you for addressing him. I’m female, have DiLs and DGDs btw - that’s what I do worry about, not that Karmer will do something he’s promised not to do.
How can I enable Conservatives when I live in a Labour stronghold?
I have the right to a political preference which differs from yours and to express it. My age group has lived through many governments, recalls the effects upon the economy and the nation. I’m not totally on board with the present Conservative Party, have been negatively (financially) affected during their latest term, but their overall aims and stance on biological sex fit better with my opinions.
the worst government I can ever remember is your value judgement to which you are entitled.

Men are the threat, not trans women

And, as has also been said, transwomen are no less male than any other man.

Added to that, Home Office figures (I have seen them.but I don't have it to hand) show that sexual offences are more highly represented I the transwomen prison population than the general male population.

The difference is that previously we were able to challenge men who were behaving suspiciously. And I mean collectively - security guards etc could challenge them and kick them out. Now we can't.

Heatherbell1978 · Yesterday 18:31
Lib Dem. First time not voting Labour. I believe strongly in voting for the best party for society and not my own interests but I can't on this occasion. Starmer defines working families as those who rely on public services. It's made me realise that I'm just not in the demographic he cares about. And could never vote Tory”

Which public services do you not rely on?

They can’t. It’s not costed and would be turbo-Truss. Thankfully there’s zero chance of them getting a chance this time, and hopefully any who do get elected will dem9nstrate their uselessness sufficiently to never be re-elected. Look at Farage’s record as an MEP to see what I mean.

Rubbish. There are reasons for the issues in Wales which I’m sure you’re aware of - including, but not limited to, demographics and Westminster controlled funding. My personal experiences here have been positive.

So you’re saying you’re worrying he’ll do something he’s promised not to do as an excuse for voting to enable the worst government I can ever remember?

What an idiotic remark.
No. Just someone who has worked in education under both Tory and Labour and saw what was best. And someone with a functioning memory of the last 14 years.

Can't in good conscience back any of them. For that reason I just have to vote on a local level, who is the better of my locals for my area. Local Labour candidate has a terrible attitude towards womens rights and couldn't even tell me what the NHS plan will be. I will therefore be voting Green as I have a lot of respect on a professional and personal level for her, her morals, her views and what she wants to achieve.

Men are the threat, not trans women.

@Anonym00se

There is no such thing as trans women. None. They don't exist. There are women. And then there are men acting as women. It's irrelevant what hormones they have taken, what surgical procedures they have undergone, they are men. Also, I have never changed in a uni-sex changing room because I don't want to. I choose places which have single sex spaces for a reason.