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To ask who you are voting for?

543 replies

I5itm3 · 29/06/2024 20:35

Labour
Tories
Lib Dem
Green
Reform
SNP (Scotland)

And why?

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NextPhaseOfLife · 30/06/2024 11:13

It's abhorrent that all parties except Conservatives have erosion of women's rights in their manifestos.

Eviebeans · 30/06/2024 11:12

I am undecided=confused/disappointed etc
i had thought of spoiling my vote as I see a number of other people are thinking of doing
but now think that I need to vote for someone even if it’s only someone where I agree with some of their policies if not all - that may increase the number of seats for parties other than the main two…

MrsSkylerWhite · 30/06/2024 11:09

Brumchum · Yesterday 21:02
Labour. Because I think it will be better for my children and grandchildren. Not me necessarily”

Yes, same.

GreyCarpet · 30/06/2024 11:06

DontBiteTheCat · 30/06/2024 10:34

Yes the Tories do know what the definition of a woman is. They don’t give a fuck about them though.

Labour are misogynistic? Boris Johnson literally voted against making misogyny a hate crime.

Rape convictions in England and Wales fell to historic lows under this government. In 2022, 99% of reported rapes did not end in a conviction. Ninety. Nine. Percent.

Should I talk about the shocking maternity care, the closure of domestic violence services and refuges or the lack of mental health support under the Tories too?

But they know how to SAY “A woman is an adult human female”, so actions don’t matter 🙄

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I think what a lot pf people are feeling is that, we all know that the Tories are no fried to women for the reasons you give

None of rhe other parties are any better though. Greens and Lib Dems have previously stated that, if you are a woman who does not believe TWAW, they do not even want your vote.

The Women's Equality Party - all women are equal but some are more equal than others (the ones with penises).

I said yesterday that local socialist candidate looked good but there it is on their manifesto that they will promote trangsender and non binary rights and oppose transphobia (they mean women).

I won't he voting Tory and I certainly wouldn't vote Reform and I can understand that people will vote for the other main parties on issues that they feel are more important.

But I keep coming back to how can anything be more important that recognising the existence of half the population? If we don't exist and we can't be named, we have no rights anyway.

This is the problem. Far from protecting women's rights, many of the parties are talking about actively removing them.

otnot · 30/06/2024 11:06

bozzabollix · 30/06/2024 09:37

Love how many women are voting Conservative ‘because they know what a woman is’. Yeah they know how to identify the very set of people they continue to do fuck all for, and Boris needs to know who to shag and leave.

There's a big difference between doing nothing to help and doing something to harm. If you're hanging from a ledge and I don't try to save you, that's pretty crappy of me; if I stand on your fingers so you fall, that's significantly worse.

Not sure what Boris has to do with anything, he's neither in the current government nor attempting to be elected into the next? An ex-MP's romantic life wouldn't influence my vote personally, but each to their own! Are you claiming that there are no members of Labour, either current or previous, who have ever behaved badly in their personal life? Presumably if you discover there has ever been someone who has behaved worse than Boris, you will refuse to vote Labour?

cardibach · 30/06/2024 10:48

anyolddinosaur · 30/06/2024 09:46

@bozzabollix I may vote for the tories because they will not remove my rights, most of the other parties want to make me a "non-man" or tell me to defer to anything a man wants. Fuck that. No party is offering me anything to vote for, only to vote against. So you can vote with your bollocks or for those who value them above women.

The party who wants to leave the ECHR won’t remove your rights? Eh? How do you work that out?

DontBiteTheCat · 30/06/2024 10:34

Yes the Tories do know what the definition of a woman is. They don’t give a fuck about them though.

Labour are misogynistic? Boris Johnson literally voted against making misogyny a hate crime.

Rape convictions in England and Wales fell to historic lows under this government. In 2022, 99% of reported rapes did not end in a conviction. Ninety. Nine. Percent.

Should I talk about the shocking maternity care, the closure of domestic violence services and refuges or the lack of mental health support under the Tories too?

But they know how to SAY “A woman is an adult human female”, so actions don’t matter 🙄

EverythingYouDoIsaBalloon · 30/06/2024 10:27

bozzabollix · 30/06/2024 09:37

Love how many women are voting Conservative ‘because they know what a woman is’. Yeah they know how to identify the very set of people they continue to do fuck all for, and Boris needs to know who to shag and leave.

THIS.

zingally · 30/06/2024 10:09

Labour for me.

My constituency is a tory stronghold, and might well stay that way, but I just can't bring myself to vote Tory. Never have, never will.
Used to swing between Lib Dem and Labour in my younger days, but now tend to always go Labour.

ReallyNotTheBestDayEver · 30/06/2024 10:05

TheNoonBell · 30/06/2024 09:50

Reform

  1. Reduce immigration
  2. Defund the BBC
  3. End the green nonsense
  4. Depoliticise the QANGOS & civil service
  5. Public inquiry into excess deaths & vaccine harms
  6. They know what a woman is
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Scary

Createausername1970 · 30/06/2024 09:52

Independent. Good local policies.

TheNoonBell · 30/06/2024 09:50

Reform

  1. Reduce immigration
  2. Defund the BBC
  3. End the green nonsense
  4. Depoliticise the QANGOS & civil service
  5. Public inquiry into excess deaths & vaccine harms
  6. They know what a woman is
anyolddinosaur · 30/06/2024 09:46

@bozzabollix I may vote for the tories because they will not remove my rights, most of the other parties want to make me a "non-man" or tell me to defer to anything a man wants. Fuck that. No party is offering me anything to vote for, only to vote against. So you can vote with your bollocks or for those who value them above women.

To ask who you are voting for?
bozzabollix · 30/06/2024 09:37

Love how many women are voting Conservative ‘because they know what a woman is’. Yeah they know how to identify the very set of people they continue to do fuck all for, and Boris needs to know who to shag and leave.

AlfrescoPotato · 30/06/2024 09:35

Labour - no. Several reasons but a big one is that they do not align with me on the countryside which is exceptionally important to me.

Conservatives - look at the fucking state of the country.

Lib Dem - couldn’t even tell you who my local candidate is. Voiceless and faceless here.

Reform - Farage & Brexit. Difficult.

Green - a party I have no interest in voting for.

I don’t think I will know until I’m stood there waiting to vote, pen in hand.

Onomatofear · 30/06/2024 09:35

Surely the 'squashed middle' need the NHS? I think that people have every right to vote for your own interests but the problem is that the Tories managed to convince people that they represent average, hardworking people. The reality is that only a small percentage of people actually benefit from a Tory government.

Willmafrockfit · 30/06/2024 09:35

as usual, i have no idea,
lib dems, greens or labour
and it is not a discussion i would have in the office

bozzabollix · 30/06/2024 09:34

Labour, I want a working health service and for things to stop going to shit whilst Tory donors get ever more rich.

Moier · 30/06/2024 09:30

Why are people bashing others for not voting for their preferred party?
The question asked who are you voting for..

HRTQueen · 30/06/2024 09:29

OperationGoldDawn · 30/06/2024 01:35

but why are they not already working towards things they say they want to do etc ? surley they should already be trying to do what they can ?

because that can’t while they are still in opposition …

kirbykirby · 30/06/2024 09:26

keffie12 · 29/06/2024 23:20

@hungrycaterpillarsmummy Labour is not going to tax pensions. That is another twisted lie of the Tories.

People pay tax on pensions already. If you have a private pension on top of your state pension, you pay tax. It's not a new thing. That has always been the case.

For the majority of people on state pension only, nothing will change

I thought there was speculation that Labour will bring pensions into the sphere of inheritance tax, hence "taxing pensions".

BlueSlate · 30/06/2024 09:23

So many women saying women must use our vote.

And then so many of those are voting for parties and policies that not only ignore our sex but refuse to even recognise it.

To ask who you are voting for?
Junibug · 30/06/2024 09:13

Conservative. Cannot support Labour as a woman. Plus I think they would be worse than useless in government. Utter lack of clarity on their policies and funding. Tories aren't great, obviously, but best of a bad bunch in my opinion. A shit show all round really.

Tortiemiaw · 30/06/2024 09:10

I will be voting Labour as our current mp is both safe and also a very good mp. I've met him a few times, and he actually does care about the city..I have however contacted him on the women's rights issue and am waiting for a response.
This is the only thing that worries me overall.

DoreenonTill8 · 30/06/2024 09:03

anonhop · 29/06/2024 22:54

Interested when people suggest that Labour are for the many, not the few.

While I of course want a party that looks out for the most desperate, when I think of the "many", I think of an average working class family. Parents go to work in typical jobs, aspire to home ownership & to save for a pension (but neither of these things are within easy reach). Drive an old car etc.

When I think of Labour, I think they crush the dreams of a family like this. Help with home ownership, savings etc (which are important for families who aren't born into wealth) made harder. Expansion of ULEZ punishing those with older cars.

I think Labour are more for the few at the very bottom, and also for tearing down those they deem to be "rich". I think they forget about/tread all over the "many" in the lower middle who are just about getting by.

FWIW Tories are no better & I'm not voting, but I find the "Labour for the many" thing rlly interesting because of course they used to be a worker's party, but now I'd say they're not that good for people who actually work.

Agree, am actually exhausted with getting told 'vote for others benefits, vote for the greater good' which actually as pp says is only voting for those at the ends of things, and just fucks over those of us in the squashed middle (and I know how much some on mn hate the squashed middle having an opinion!)