To ask who you are voting for?

Your original question was “do you have the statistics to back this up” ? And just to remind us all, what I claimed was that transgender people are more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators of it, including in public bathrooms.

My answer is yes. I have statistics, it’s all in the paper. I have a copy of it available through my University for free. There are not many studies like this, I don’t think US vs UK makes a huge difference and I stand by my claim. Transgender people are more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators.

Conclusion attached.

Ok since you’ve evidently paid for this article, you can share what parts you believe to be relevant to my original question.

You haven’t even read it 😂

What you linked isn’t evidence, it’s like you googled ‘trans and bathrooms’ and shared the first link going. It’s not relevant to any of the points I raised, it’s not even relevant to the politics of this country.

Continue to live in your fantasy world then. You were the one asking for evidence.

I will not be paying £30 to read an an American article of which the abstract doesn’t allude to trans people facing violence in female shared spaces at all. If anything, that abstract seems to be propaganda towards why women’s spaces should be used as a safety net for men who identify differently. Along with the offensive adage that ‘well women being attacked in female only spaces rarely happens, so sod the few we’ll use as collateral damage’.

Of course. Have a read of the article linked below which highlights that transgender women, especially those using public restrooms, are more likely to be victims of harassment and violence. It discusses the stigma and risks associated with using gender-segregated public facilities, and does not find evidence or suggest that trans women are likely to be perpetrators of violence in public restrooms.

Hasenbush, A., Flores, A.R. & Herman, J.L. Gender Identity Nondiscrimination Laws in Public Accommodations: a Review of Evidence Regarding Safety and Privacy in Public Restrooms, Locker Rooms, and Changing Rooms. Sex Res Soc Policy 16, 70–83 (2019). https://doi.org/10.1007/s13178-018-0335-z

I voted labour, but was honestly on the fence until the last moment. I don’t really love any of the options on the table! In the end I selfishly just thought about my family rather than the bigger picture (we’re not high earners, I’m a teacher, my son has ASD, both kids are in primary school) - I suspect a labour government will be better for us, so that’s the way I voted in the end!

It’s the first time in my life I’ve ever been so indecisive though.

Do you have the statistics to back this up? Or is this based on Stonewall propaganda, because I’m not hearing a lot about women attacking males (however they identify) in public toilets/female only spaces.

At this point I don't think it matters who you vote for! If you want tories out just vote tactically for your area.

I'm voting Labour too. Beautiful day here.

Labour ❤

Depends how much you want a change in government.
If that's something you want a lot vote Labour
If not, vote Green as a protest. At a high level will be interpreted across as more pro-environment than pro-trans and its a protest vote.
Unless you are in Brighton or Bristol very unlikely Green will get in so the risk of getting a pro trans MP is really very low

If you’re not sure then vote Labour.

Conservatives have screwed it up and destroyed public services.

Lib dem & Green are too small and cannot form a government.

Reform are shady Russian-linked criminals stealing your vote for Putin.

Labour is focused on improving public services and is the only party capable of government.

Still not got a clue and I’m planning to go on the way to work shortly.
What a mess!

Well, who the fuck do I vote for, then?
Cannot bring myself to vote Tory after the shambles they have overseen.
Will not vote Reform as disagree with most of what they stand for.
Labour, LibDems and Greens don't understand basic biology.

That's my choice. Fucking fantastic.

Edited to add, I would have voted for the Labour bloke as he DID seem to understand basic biology, but is proving very much a party man on a serious local issue and therefore will probably ultimately toe the line on all the bollocks.

Quite!
A vote for Tories is the British equivalent of a vote for Trump. Law breakers don’t inspire me.

The absolute irony of those of you saying women’s rights are key for you but in the same breath how you’ll be turning up simply to spoil a ballot.

The election broadcasts have swung it for me.

Neither Labour nor Conservatives seem to have any substance to them; the entire broadcast was spent telling me why NOT to vote for the rival party, and dealing in fear, rather than what they'd actually do if they came into power. That was pretty much the same for most of the broadcasts from the parties I'm allowed to vote for in my constituency. I find it interesting that it's nigh on impossible to find a straightforward link to Reform's election broadcast. Censorship in action, which would also get worse under Labs and Cons. So they're out.

So I'm going with a party that spends its time telling me what they'll do if they get elected instead. Greens may be a wasted vote in the grand scheme, but at least their policies broadly align with something I can get behind.

I don’t think any of them deserve a vote but most likely the Lib Dems, though very reluctantly so (normally a steadfast Labour voter).

Conservatives have ruined the country and the Conservative MP we have in my area is shit so definitely not willing to vote for them.

In terms of party leaders I think KS is probably the most in touch with the people, however womens rights will be shafted under Labour and probably even more so under Lib Dems looking at their manifesto so neither is a good choice for women in terms of winning party but I think Labour would be the lesser of the two evils in this area. However that said our local Lib Dem candidate seems great and tactically they are the only party in my constituency that stands a chance of ousting the crap Tory MP we currently have so I guess thats where I will place my vote even though on a larger scale I wouldn’t actually want them to win!

The only reason I still have a job is because of the equality act so if thats scrapped lots of people like me would be screwed so Reform is definitely not an option either.

I think voting Greens would be a wasted vote as they don’t stand a chance of changing anything.

Alliance, for all the good it will do as they'll never be elected in my area. Still, at least I keep trying.

Labour all the way!

Lib Dem I think as they have more chance of beating the incumbent Tory in this area.

Catlover77 · 29/06/2024 21:00
Not voting. As a woman, who on earth could I vote for?

You could perhaps vote on behalf of the almost 1 in 3 children living in poverty. The 8 million people waiting for medical treatment. For cleaner rivers and seas. Or on behalf of the homeless, the terrified that need mental health professionals, the children who were screwed by Covid and are still refusing school, the disabled who are being told by unqualified people that they are fit to work and having their lifeline withdrawn or for environmental progress and clean energy that will give us a fighting chance. Maybe, radically, decent, affordable housing?

Or you could decide to not vote based on a single issue that has been woefully misrepresented.

Already voted as done a Postal vote for labour