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Work leaving party dilemma

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DillyEmma · 29/06/2024 19:04

I have NC for this as if linked to my previous threads could be outing. I manage a team at work who mostly seem to get on well together on a professional level. One person, I will call her Jill, has recently put her notice in and is starting a new job elsewhere in August. She has said for her leaving do she would like to go on a boat trip down the River Thames in London ending up with drinks and a meal somewhere, Greenwich probably. This will take place after office hours. People have been enthusiastic about the idea as Jill is very popular, are keen to attend and to give her a good send off. That is except for one member of staff I will call Kate. Kate does not like water or boats and has said she will not attend the leaving party as planned. I have suggested to Kate that she meets us at the chosen venue in Greenwich and can be part of the leaving event from that point onwards. This does not suit Kate at all. She wants the party to be held starting with an open top bus tour and then ending with drinks and a meal. I have reminded her that it is Jill’s leaving party, so she decides where and how the event is held. Kate says Jill and the rest of the staff are excluding her by making the decision to have a water and boat-based party and that this is discrimination against her. My feeling is as the party is out of office hours and is Jill’s event, she should be allowed to do what she wants. AIBU?

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Abi86 · 29/06/2024 20:47

And what would Kate say if someone hated buses and had an issue with her idea on that basis?

G5000 · 29/06/2024 20:36

froomeonthebroom · 29/06/2024 19:59

Sorry to hijack the thread but I'd love to know where this is!

https://www.basel.com/en/activities-excursions/swimming-rhine

sprigatito · 29/06/2024 20:26

Yeah, Kate needs to go piss up a rope. I can't bear people who make every occasion about them.

junebirthdaygirl · 29/06/2024 20:24

I would hate to be in a workplace where going on a boat was the fun thing but l would just bow out gracefully.

Oblomov24 · 29/06/2024 20:15

Kate doesn't get to choose what kind of party Jill chooses.

theonlygirl · 29/06/2024 20:13

I feel that Kate is in need of some training around actual discrimination and how not to be a dickhead.

EstellaWaitHereForMe · 29/06/2024 20:08

Ask her to point to 'likes boats' as a protected characteristic.

froomeonthebroom · 29/06/2024 19:59

G5000 · 29/06/2024 19:44

I work in a town where swimming in the local river is a massive thing in the summer, people all go in groups and float down. One year, the team decided to do that. I didn't want to, so I just met up with them for drinks afterwards.

I cannot even imagine demanding that nobody else does it, because I don't want to. Kate must be such fun to work with.

Sorry to hijack the thread but I'd love to know where this is!

LookItsMeAgain · 29/06/2024 19:51

I'd actually remind Kate and bring up the fact that the last time that Kate changed the plans for the whole team, she wasn't actually there on the day. Also, as it is Jill's leaving do, you're not going to change the plans for Jill's leaving do and there is zero discrimination going on here.
She can give the bit on the boat a miss if she wanted to and rejoin the party at X location at Y time or she could give the whole thing a miss - that would be her call but changing the plans is not on the cards.

Beautiful3 · 29/06/2024 19:50

Just ignore Kate, and say there's nothing you can do because it's not your event.

AtleastitsnotMonday · 29/06/2024 19:45

Tell Kate Jill has a fear of heights so open top bus would discriminate against her which would be daft seeing as its HER leaving do.

FieldInWhichFucksAreGrownIsBarren · 29/06/2024 19:44

Kate can choose what to do on her leaving do, until then she can get fucked.
Go, don't go are her options.

G5000 · 29/06/2024 19:44

I work in a town where swimming in the local river is a massive thing in the summer, people all go in groups and float down. One year, the team decided to do that. I didn't want to, so I just met up with them for drinks afterwards.

I cannot even imagine demanding that nobody else does it, because I don't want to. Kate must be such fun to work with.

Wontletmeusemynormalname · 29/06/2024 19:43

Every Friday we had drinks on the Tattershall moored pub on the Thames, every Friday I'd have to nip up Villiers Street to get anti sickness tablets. I hate boats and get horrendous motion sickness for hours after. But I loved my colleagues. Just need to suck it up or meet at the venue.

Galatine · 29/06/2024 19:42

Sunnydiary · 29/06/2024 19:09

Kate is being VVU.

I was actually on The Marchioness and was lucky to survive.

When my employer announced a similar trip, I quietly explained to my manager why I would be unable to attend, and made an excuse to colleagues (as I didn’t want to piss on their chips)

Kate seems to be someone who makes everything about her? Just carry on regardless and don’t engage

But unlike Kate, you were very gracious about it, despite your obvious and justifiable reservations about such an event.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2024 19:41

Kate is not being unreasonable to not want to go on the boat, or even to not want to join the leaving do afterwards.

She is being very unreasonable to try to force everyone to do what she wants to do instead.

FrogNToad · 29/06/2024 19:39

Of course you aren't being unreasonable, Kate is being an arsehole. If she wants to come the sensible thing to do is exactly what you suggested, to meet up for the meal after. Just walk away from this one, it's not a work organised activity so just shrug it off with "It's a shame you can't come, maybe next time eh?".

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 29/06/2024 19:38

Kate's been invited, there's presumably no protected characteristic related reason why she can't attend or you would have said, and she's been told she's welcome to only come to the meal if that's better for her, so there's no way she can say she's being bullied by being excluded.

She's talking bollocks. She needs to be told (again) that she can decide when it's her party, but it's Jane's party and Jane has decided. She's welcome to attend, and if she chooses not to it's up to her.

She sounds like a complete pain in the arse.

KomodoOhno · 29/06/2024 19:33

Kate is nuts.

Justcallmebebes · 29/06/2024 19:32

Tell Kate to fuck off

DillyEmma · 29/06/2024 19:23

adriftinadenofvipers · 29/06/2024 19:20

Shame it wasn't Kate leaving then!

Indeed, I had a bellyful of her comments yesterday. The joys of managing a team!

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DillyEmma · 29/06/2024 19:18

Kate has form for being dictatorial about events. We are lucky enough that work pay for a staff outing every summer for us with the proviso it be something vaguely educational. Kate invariably doesn't like what is planned and wants something else. She was allowed to have her wish a couple of years back and the entire staff crammed in a bus and went to Monkeyworld in Dorset. It was vile. I don't like zoos or seeing caged animals even under the pretext of conservation so did not enjoy the day at all. Kate went off sick the morning of the outing which doubly pissed me off.

Shame it wasn't Kate leaving then!

DillyEmma · 29/06/2024 19:18

Kate has form for being dictatorial about events. We are lucky enough that work pay for a staff outing every summer for us with the proviso it be something vaguely educational. Kate invariably doesn't like what is planned and wants something else. She was allowed to have her wish a couple of years back and the entire staff crammed in a bus and went to Monkeyworld in Dorset. It was vile. I don't like zoos or seeing caged animals even under the pretext of conservation so did not enjoy the day at all. Kate went off sick the morning of the outing which doubly pissed me off.

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Witchbitch20 · 29/06/2024 19:18

You will all have a great time without Kate.

InfoSecInTheCity · 29/06/2024 19:17

In order for it to be discrimination she would have to be not getting her own way on the basis of her having one of the 9 protected characteristics.

She's not getting her own way because it's not her event and it's not about her, it's also completely optional so she doesn't have to go if she doesn't want to.

She needs time get over herself and either suck it up and go because she likes the person who is leaving and is willing to go to a bit of trouble to see her off, or she needs to explain she is unable to attend and maybe arrange a coffee or drink with her at another time.