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Being punished for break up

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Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 17:31

Ive been separated from my husband for 3 years and we have a 4 year old autistic boy. We get on great and the way we co-parent should be made into a manual…..it’s working so well for us and our boy.

My husband’s family are having a get together at the end of July. The home where the party is being held is fabulous with fantastic gardens. My son will absolutely love it!!!! I’ve never had any issues with his side of the family, we still ring each other and we all share a family WhatsApp.

Today I asked if I could go to the family gathering as I’d love to see my son explore the gardens and watch him with the family. I said I’d cook a lasagne as I’m famous for them and the family has always loved them. This was my mother-in-laws reply…..

Hi sorry late reply
Ah it's not my call. Trish is having family because it'll be the last time any family get togethers happen there be4 they move to their new home . Don’t worry Luke will of course see his other relatives at his aunty Trisha's ,we'll make sure you have lots of pics!! X

So it was a no. I’m so upset by this. I feel because I’m the one who left the relationship I’m being punished. I feel like she’s saying that because I’ve left I have lost all privileges to attend family gatherings and I’m no longer welcome. If it was my family and my ex husband wanted to come I’d have absolutely no problem, nor would my family. I feel it’s a bit childish.

My initial reaction was to not allow my son to go without me but I don’t want him to miss out.

What are your thoughts? I’m I being too sensitive?

Just for context I left him due to lack of support for me when my mental health declined after I had my son. I found text messages on his phone saying he wanted to punch me, calling me a c**t and making up stories about me for sympathy. I’ve forgiven all that and we are great friends, though I’d ever g get back with him.

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allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 29/06/2024 18:14

@Gilliano1974 why should you be invited to their family gatherings?? you are no longer a member of their family! get your own family gathering arranged!

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:10

SamW98 · 29/06/2024 17:55

YABU to invite yourself to a party being held by someone that’s no longer your family. I can’t believe you had the cheek to ask tbh and think your ex MIL was very polite under the circumstances.

Your DS can go with his dad - they’re still his family.

I guess it might seem cheeky when you don’t know all the details. We all still take my son out together, she gets invited to mine for dinner, I go on holidays with me ex and son…..if she wanted to come to one of my families gatherings I’d be over the moon. I guess I have different boundaries to most people, I maybe need to rethink them 🫣 I’m just super friendly and would never want any animosity xx

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Ginkypig · 29/06/2024 18:06

im sorry because I know this isn’t what you want to hear but this is dh and son’s family but they are no longer yours.

It’s great that you have managed to forge such a good relationship as co-parents and ex partners but I think it’s lulled you into thinking that automatically extends to the rest of the family too but it doesn’t.

I know it must be hard knowing you are not automatically part of certain parts of your sons life now and you are hurt to be missing things with him but the truth is you know he is with good people and while you won’t see him having certain experiences he still is having them surrounded by people who loved him.

I grew up in a similar circumstance after my parents divorced, they got on very well once the hurts had become the past and worked well as friends and co-parents infact even to the point of doing Christmas together sometimes! and one parent did carry on good contact like you with their ex in-laws but that parent wasn’t invited to family events like the one you just described.
they would occasionally see each other or visit with each other and got on well but from the divorce onwards each half of the family got together or celebrated separately and the ex in the scenario wouldn’t be there. As children it wasn’t odd it was our normal.

please try not to refuse your son the opportunity to spend time with his family I can understand you jumping to that because you were hurt but it’s not about you it’s about him and I promise you it will only hurt your son in the long run! As long as you know he is safe and looked after then that’s all that matters isn’t it?

MiddleParking · 29/06/2024 18:06

It’s interesting that you refer to him twice as your husband. Both that and wanting to go to his family gatherings are very unusual for a separated/divorced woman. Is there something more at play?

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 17:58

Ilovelurchers · 29/06/2024 17:55

I get on fairly well with my ex husband's family, and he with mine. Neither of us would expect to be invited to family gatherings. It would be disrespectful to our new partners I think!

For example, his half sister lives somewhere that I have visited before on holiday and may do I again. I met up with her for a coffee when I was there last time, and might to in future. All perfectly amicable. No way would I expect her to invite me to a large family gathering that would also include my ex and his new partner! Same with my brother - he still often meets my ex for social occasions but I assume wouldn't ask him to a big family do!

It's great that you get on well with your ex, and still have civil relationships with his family. But you have to allow him to move on now. Could it be he has a new girlfriend he is bringing to this get together for example?

No, no new girlfriend, I wouldn’t have asked if that was the case, that would definitely make me a nutter haha x

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NerrSnerr · 29/06/2024 17:57

Oh god this sounds exactly like my mum. After she left my dad she was hugely upset that it meant that she wasn't treated exactly how she always was by his family. She even huffed and puffed because my step mum sat with my dad's siblings at my wedding even though she was on the top table.

They're his family, not yours.

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 17:55

Thank you everyone, you’ve all given me some clarity. I’ve messaged her to apologise for putting her on the spot and told her I totally understand.

I guess I just still love them all no matter the circumstances. Of course I’ll let my son still go, he’ll absolutely love it xx

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SamW98 · 29/06/2024 17:55

YABU to invite yourself to a party being held by someone that’s no longer your family. I can’t believe you had the cheek to ask tbh and think your ex MIL was very polite under the circumstances.

Your DS can go with his dad - they’re still his family.

Ilovelurchers · 29/06/2024 17:55

I get on fairly well with my ex husband's family, and he with mine. Neither of us would expect to be invited to family gatherings. It would be disrespectful to our new partners I think!

For example, his half sister lives somewhere that I have visited before on holiday and may do I again. I met up with her for a coffee when I was there last time, and might to in future. All perfectly amicable. No way would I expect her to invite me to a large family gathering that would also include my ex and his new partner! Same with my brother - he still often meets my ex for social occasions but I assume wouldn't ask him to a big family do!

It's great that you get on well with your ex, and still have civil relationships with his family. But you have to allow him to move on now. Could it be he has a new girlfriend he is bringing to this get together for example?

Arlanymor · 29/06/2024 17:53

Sorry OP I cringed a bit for you inviting yourself along to a family do where you are no longer part of the family. I thought your MIL’s response was very sweet to be fair. I think you need to have an objective look at things because co-parent doesn’t mean co-family. You’ve got a system that works and that’s great, but don’t mistake it for anything like being part of the family unit as you were before. FWIW I don’t think you are being punished, I think that they are making clear and sensible boundaries. This is all meant very kindly from me by the way.

littleburn · 29/06/2024 17:53

YABU. It's about having appropriate boundaries. You're no longer the daughter in law so you won't be invited to family gatherings. That's just factual, it's not that they hate you, want to punish you etc.

I left my marriage and have maintained a good relationship with my former in-laws. We message and meet up for a coffee when they're visiting my ex, but I don't go to family gatherings. It's nothing personal, it's just not appropriate for me to be there. That space is for my ex's partner.

Greenlittecat · 29/06/2024 17:52

I don't think they are wrong to not invite you and I think you are cheeky to ask!

However, if you two have an excellent coparenting relationship and you regularly see your exes side of the family I can sort of see where you are coming from.

FinallyDecided · 29/06/2024 17:49

Is it possible that you are also autistic OP? As it is odd that you think YANBU tbh

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 29/06/2024 17:46

YABU you are no longer family. It's amazing that you get on so well, don't ruin your amazing co parenting relationship.

RonaTkinson · 29/06/2024 17:45

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MonsteraMama · 29/06/2024 17:45

It's good that you two get on and are able to co-parent amicably, that's admirable.

But the reality is you're not a family anymore. You made that choice, so yes of course you're going to start being left out of family things. They're still kind to you and treat you with respect, which is good, but they are no longer under any obligation to invite you to things!

OhcantthInkofaname · 29/06/2024 17:43

In any number of families you wouldn't be excluded. You happen to be in one where that's the case.

Aquamarine1029 · 29/06/2024 17:43

I feel like she’s saying that because I’ve left I have lost all privileges to attend family gatherings

Well... What did you expect? You did leave the family and that has natural consequences, and those consequences are to be expected, honestly. Your former family members may feel awkward having you and your ex at the same event. It's a bit puzzling that you don't grasp this.

ByCupidStunt · 29/06/2024 17:43

Yabu. It's cringey to ask if you can go to someone's party.

The other thing is that you didn't even ask the person who was hosting the party, you asked your ex MIL instead. How can she say it's ok for you to go?

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 29/06/2024 17:39

I agree with the others. If they had invited you then that would be different but they didn't, and you made things awkward by asking.

Deargodletitgo · 29/06/2024 17:38

You need to reword the post too, it might help you reframe your boundaries. He's your ex husband,she's your ex mother in law. You are no longer part of that family, although your son is. Exes new partner will be, as you will be invited to family gatherings when you have a new partner

fieldsofbutterflies · 29/06/2024 17:38

I can't believe you even asked 😬

They're not your family anymore. You have absolutely no right to ask for an invitation.

MultiplaLight · 29/06/2024 17:37

You're the odd one for asking tbh. Think her response was very measured.

FunLurker · 29/06/2024 17:37

It's hard when you split but the reality is that you are no longer part of that family, it doesn't mean they don't care for you or want to see you it means when their having a family get together you won't ne involved. It's also better for your son to see you getting on as friends but not being one family. In the future one of you may meet someone else and it would be harder then.

StormingNorman · 29/06/2024 17:35

It isn’t the norm to be invited to the ex’s family gatherings. And it was a bit strange that you asked, your poor ex MIL being put on the spot.

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