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Being punished for break up

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Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 17:31

Ive been separated from my husband for 3 years and we have a 4 year old autistic boy. We get on great and the way we co-parent should be made into a manual…..it’s working so well for us and our boy.

My husband’s family are having a get together at the end of July. The home where the party is being held is fabulous with fantastic gardens. My son will absolutely love it!!!! I’ve never had any issues with his side of the family, we still ring each other and we all share a family WhatsApp.

Today I asked if I could go to the family gathering as I’d love to see my son explore the gardens and watch him with the family. I said I’d cook a lasagne as I’m famous for them and the family has always loved them. This was my mother-in-laws reply…..

Hi sorry late reply
Ah it's not my call. Trish is having family because it'll be the last time any family get togethers happen there be4 they move to their new home . Don’t worry Luke will of course see his other relatives at his aunty Trisha's ,we'll make sure you have lots of pics!! X

So it was a no. I’m so upset by this. I feel because I’m the one who left the relationship I’m being punished. I feel like she’s saying that because I’ve left I have lost all privileges to attend family gatherings and I’m no longer welcome. If it was my family and my ex husband wanted to come I’d have absolutely no problem, nor would my family. I feel it’s a bit childish.

My initial reaction was to not allow my son to go without me but I don’t want him to miss out.

What are your thoughts? I’m I being too sensitive?

Just for context I left him due to lack of support for me when my mental health declined after I had my son. I found text messages on his phone saying he wanted to punch me, calling me a c**t and making up stories about me for sympathy. I’ve forgiven all that and we are great friends, though I’d ever g get back with him.

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Rosscameasdoody · 29/06/2024 18:50

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I think this is very harsh. I agree that OP is being unreasonable thinking she should have been invited, and for asking to go. But her reasons were sound - she knew her son would love it and wanted to see him exploring the gardens and interacting with his family. The fact that he is autistic is very relevant, and depending on the severity, may explain OP’s desire to see his interactions. This type of mean comment is typical of MN.

Arlanymor · 29/06/2024 18:47

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:15

You are absolutely right. Thank you so much for your input and your story. He’s absolutely safe with his daddy and family and for that I’m so grateful. I guess I did make it about me in my head so I’m glad I posted and got some really good advice. It’s completely changed how I feel about it ❤️ xx

That’s a really lovely update OP, good for you, I hope you find yourself something really fun to do on that date instead. You’re child-free for the day/night so go out and enjoy yourself!

Msmbc · 29/06/2024 18:47

I have this kind of relationship with my ex who I have two kids (one of which we decided to have post separation, that's how close we were as co-parents). Just want to warn you that if/when one of you gets together with someone else it is like an emotional bomb going off (at least it was in my case). Made me realise or rather forced me to confront that the lack of boundaries was actually unhealthy, rather than it being "so healthy that we're able to be such good friends" etc type of thinking. And i was the same as you, no way I'd want to be with my ex romantically again, but him meeting someone else still completely floored me. So be prepared.

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:45

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 29/06/2024 18:39

I think you need to accept that when marriages end, dynamics change. It’s great you are coparenting together.

But it doesn’t mean everyone else has to continue to treat you as a family unit. It’s really not punishment. Things have changed. That’s just how it is, punishment doesn’t come into it.

I just think you need to get your head round that. And also your son needs to get used to you both parenting him alone.

I also think the whole ‘I would love to see him enjoy their gardens’ and what you wrote about here, does sound a bit like ‘I don’t want to miss it because it’s at a nice house’.

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I guess it did come across like that but that’s not what I was trying to express 🫣🫣

My ex takes my son on lots and lots of adventures alone as he has him overnight once a week. The only reason I wanted to go to this one was to experience it with him and for me to watch how the family will fall in love with my son. On reflection this was a selfish thought on my behalf and I don’t think I should have asked xxx

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ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 29/06/2024 18:39

I think you need to accept that when marriages end, dynamics change. It’s great you are coparenting together.

But it doesn’t mean everyone else has to continue to treat you as a family unit. It’s really not punishment. Things have changed. That’s just how it is, punishment doesn’t come into it.

I just think you need to get your head round that. And also your son needs to get used to you both parenting him alone.

I also think the whole ‘I would love to see him enjoy their gardens’ and what you wrote about here, does sound a bit like ‘I don’t want to miss it because it’s at a nice house’.

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:37

kittensinthekitchen · 29/06/2024 18:28

Do you have many friends OP? Are they friends of the marriage? What do they think about the setup?

Yes, we’ve known each other for 25 years, we dated 15 years ago then got married so we share a lot of friends. They are all still in both our lives and they really respect how we co-parent together. I’m starting to think we both need to look at our boundaries as we have an unconventional relationship for exes and that might be why I felt punished and left out. I’m pleased I posted as it’s forced me to see things differently xx

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Zanatdy · 29/06/2024 18:36

It’s great that you both get on. My ex and I get on well, and for years I did attend his family events, but he’s since got remarried and of course now I don’t. We will always be friends, and if I was his wife I wouldn’t be impressed at the amount he messaged me, I never message him unless essential as I respect he’s got a new partner he messaged me a lot. I reply of course. Our kids are growing up now, so there won’t always be a reason for texting, I think he will feel that more than me.

Sparkletastic · 29/06/2024 18:33

Is the party not even at ex-MIL's house?

Ponderingwindow · 29/06/2024 18:33

unless it is an event focused on your mutual child, your attendance would be unusual. Your ex deserves a space to socialize with his family without you.

Cherry8809 · 29/06/2024 18:31

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:28

I did and he said he’d have no problem with me going. I could have left it at that and turned up haha, however I thought I’d better check it was ok. I’ve completely rethought the situation and realised I shouldn’t have asked anyone at all, not even the ex, and I’m very sorry I did xxx

I do feel for you, and think you’re getting quite a hard time, especially when people don’t know the dynamic.

It’s a hard pill to swallow when you realise it’s true that they’re his family, not yours, and that things will usually cool off between you all when the relationship breaks down. Especially as you once did (and probably still do) consider them to be part of your family too.

RonaTkinson · 29/06/2024 18:31

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Greenleavesinthesun · 29/06/2024 18:31

I’m sorry that suddenly they don’t class you as family anymore OP. They are all still your child’s family, but your child is your child so it’s hard to wrap around why you are not welcome just because you’re not with the child’s dad. It’s like the previous relationships mean nothing. It can be hard to process when your brain is wired to be kind and think that everyone should get on like grown ups. I hope you have your own family who is loving and kind, because not having your own family and loosing them on top is upsetting, but just cruel reality I’m afraid.

kittensinthekitchen · 29/06/2024 18:28

Do you have many friends OP? Are they friends of the marriage? What do they think about the setup?

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:28

Cherry8809 · 29/06/2024 18:23

I think the sensible thing would have been to ask your ex to speak with his family to see if they’d be ok with you joining, instead of asking directly yourself.

I did and he said he’d have no problem with me going. I could have left it at that and turned up haha, however I thought I’d better check it was ok. I’ve completely rethought the situation and realised I shouldn’t have asked anyone at all, not even the ex, and I’m very sorry I did xxx

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Hoppinggreen · 29/06/2024 18:26

Well you do talk about the house and gardens a lot!

Its a lot of change for you Op and your ex doesn't sound very nice (but you sound lovely) so just move on now, do something nice for yourself that day and look forward to hearing all about it from your son later

TeenLifeMum · 29/06/2024 18:24

You asked to go to your ex husband’s family event and can’t understand why they’d say no? It’ll be a totally different dynamic if you were there. I get grieving the life you thought you’d have but this is a little weird.

Cherry8809 · 29/06/2024 18:23

I think the sensible thing would have been to ask your ex to speak with his family to see if they’d be ok with you joining, instead of asking directly yourself.

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:23

Hoppinggreen · 29/06/2024 18:17

Would you have wanted to go if the party was at a tiny flat in a crappy part of Town?

Absolutely I would!! You’re reading too much into that. My son absolutely loves the outdoors and their garden is absolutely gorgeous….I would love to see his face as he explores and share the experience with him. However, this post has helped so much and I understand that I can’t be there for every experience and it was not right for me to ask. I’m humbled xxx

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BigFatLiar · 29/06/2024 18:22

From your initial post I'd say you also asked the wrong person. If 'Trish' is hosting the party shouldn't you have asked her rather than the former MiL?

Amsx · 29/06/2024 18:21

They're not your family. It was weird to ask but sounds like you've sorted it now.

qwerty14 · 29/06/2024 18:20

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:15

You are absolutely right. Thank you so much for your input and your story. He’s absolutely safe with his daddy and family and for that I’m so grateful. I guess I did make it about me in my head so I’m glad I posted and got some really good advice. It’s completely changed how I feel about it ❤️ xx

You sound very sweet and well intentioned OP and I hope that you do something nice on that day for yourself.

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:20

MiddleParking · 29/06/2024 18:06

It’s interesting that you refer to him twice as your husband. Both that and wanting to go to his family gatherings are very unusual for a separated/divorced woman. Is there something more at play?

Hey, no, I think because we are not divorced I just still slip up and say my husband. It’s hard though to describe a whole relationship and circumstances in one small post. We are certainly not conventional exes that can’t stand the sight of each other haha, we’re better friends apart than we were together xx

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NoWayRose · 29/06/2024 18:19

I think ‘Luke will of course see his other relatives at his aunty Trisha's’ means ‘give our side of the fam a chance to enjoy Luke’. Ex-MIL probably read your text as while her son’s not good enough, you’ll still take access to the fancy house and grounds ta very much.

Hoppinggreen · 29/06/2024 18:17

Would you have wanted to go if the party was at a tiny flat in a crappy part of Town?

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:15

Ginkypig · 29/06/2024 18:06

im sorry because I know this isn’t what you want to hear but this is dh and son’s family but they are no longer yours.

It’s great that you have managed to forge such a good relationship as co-parents and ex partners but I think it’s lulled you into thinking that automatically extends to the rest of the family too but it doesn’t.

I know it must be hard knowing you are not automatically part of certain parts of your sons life now and you are hurt to be missing things with him but the truth is you know he is with good people and while you won’t see him having certain experiences he still is having them surrounded by people who loved him.

I grew up in a similar circumstance after my parents divorced, they got on very well once the hurts had become the past and worked well as friends and co-parents infact even to the point of doing Christmas together sometimes! and one parent did carry on good contact like you with their ex in-laws but that parent wasn’t invited to family events like the one you just described.
they would occasionally see each other or visit with each other and got on well but from the divorce onwards each half of the family got together or celebrated separately and the ex in the scenario wouldn’t be there. As children it wasn’t odd it was our normal.

please try not to refuse your son the opportunity to spend time with his family I can understand you jumping to that because you were hurt but it’s not about you it’s about him and I promise you it will only hurt your son in the long run! As long as you know he is safe and looked after then that’s all that matters isn’t it?

You are absolutely right. Thank you so much for your input and your story. He’s absolutely safe with his daddy and family and for that I’m so grateful. I guess I did make it about me in my head so I’m glad I posted and got some really good advice. It’s completely changed how I feel about it ❤️ xx

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