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Being punished for break up

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Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 17:31

Ive been separated from my husband for 3 years and we have a 4 year old autistic boy. We get on great and the way we co-parent should be made into a manual…..it’s working so well for us and our boy.

My husband’s family are having a get together at the end of July. The home where the party is being held is fabulous with fantastic gardens. My son will absolutely love it!!!! I’ve never had any issues with his side of the family, we still ring each other and we all share a family WhatsApp.

Today I asked if I could go to the family gathering as I’d love to see my son explore the gardens and watch him with the family. I said I’d cook a lasagne as I’m famous for them and the family has always loved them. This was my mother-in-laws reply…..

Hi sorry late reply
Ah it's not my call. Trish is having family because it'll be the last time any family get togethers happen there be4 they move to their new home . Don’t worry Luke will of course see his other relatives at his aunty Trisha's ,we'll make sure you have lots of pics!! X

So it was a no. I’m so upset by this. I feel because I’m the one who left the relationship I’m being punished. I feel like she’s saying that because I’ve left I have lost all privileges to attend family gatherings and I’m no longer welcome. If it was my family and my ex husband wanted to come I’d have absolutely no problem, nor would my family. I feel it’s a bit childish.

My initial reaction was to not allow my son to go without me but I don’t want him to miss out.

What are your thoughts? I’m I being too sensitive?

Just for context I left him due to lack of support for me when my mental health declined after I had my son. I found text messages on his phone saying he wanted to punch me, calling me a c**t and making up stories about me for sympathy. I’ve forgiven all that and we are great friends, though I’d ever g get back with him.

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Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:55

Sometimeswinning · 29/06/2024 20:49

I’m with you as well. If dh and I split I know my sil would still invite me to get together with family. Even if dh had a girlfriend she wouldn’t give a second thought to me being family.

So many posters on mumsnet have really sad lives it seems. I know you’ve taken some comments on board but don’t drown yourself in such a negative outlook. So many separated families who co parent should look at keeping a family unit with the in-laws.

Thank You! I’ve known everyone for 25 years as we were friends before dating so it’s hard to be excluded. I have to admit though my ex is confused and after 3 years is not even trying to move on, he definitely holds some hope and I guess I’m feeding that. I think I need to step back x

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Sometimeswinning · 29/06/2024 20:49

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:27

Thank you so much!!! I think you are the only one who really understood where I was coming from. I always feel we should do what feels right instead of having to follow the “norm”…. However not everyone thinks like that so I have to respect it xxx

I’m with you as well. If dh and I split I know my sil would still invite me to get together with family. Even if dh had a girlfriend she wouldn’t give a second thought to me being family.

So many posters on mumsnet have really sad lives it seems. I know you’ve taken some comments on board but don’t drown yourself in such a negative outlook. So many separated families who co parent should look at keeping a family unit with the in-laws.

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:49

OperationPushkin · 29/06/2024 20:41

I think it's great that this thread has caused you to rethink the current arrangements in your relationship with your ex.

But this post confuses me. What do you mean about watching the family "fall in love" with your son? That indicates that he has had little contact with his father's family. Is that the case? If so, why? Do they all live very far away from you or something of that nature?

Hi, yes. His Aunt (my exes sister), Uncle and 2 nephews live in Qatar and other than his grandparents and dad he doesn’t see the rest of the family very often, just seasonal holidays x

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namechangiosa · 29/06/2024 20:47

I guess I just still love them all no matter the circumstances.

This struck me and says a lot about you. I hope you manage to say this to your ex MIL and others sometime, I'm sure she will find it very moving.

I wish I had thought to say this to my late MIL before it was too late. Sadly the SILs don't speak to me now (apart from one) - because they fell out with my ex over the death of MIL and I ended up an innocent caught in the crossfire.

Nazzywish · 29/06/2024 20:44

OP also consider its probably them setting out how they want it to be going forward as 3 years is a long time now for the dust to have somewhat settled from breakup. They may have gone along with u coming before just to keep the peace etc as it was all new but new house ,new beginning and new expectations are being set which is a good thing.

OperationPushkin · 29/06/2024 20:41

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:45

I guess it did come across like that but that’s not what I was trying to express 🫣🫣

My ex takes my son on lots and lots of adventures alone as he has him overnight once a week. The only reason I wanted to go to this one was to experience it with him and for me to watch how the family will fall in love with my son. On reflection this was a selfish thought on my behalf and I don’t think I should have asked xxx

I think it's great that this thread has caused you to rethink the current arrangements in your relationship with your ex.

But this post confuses me. What do you mean about watching the family "fall in love" with your son? That indicates that he has had little contact with his father's family. Is that the case? If so, why? Do they all live very far away from you or something of that nature?

pikkumyy77 · 29/06/2024 20:38

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Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:27

Donotneedit · 29/06/2024 20:18

I think the notion that when parents separate, they are no longer “family” is a cultural one rather than based in fact- you are still a family to your child, and I think it’s admirable to try to maintain this link and in the best interests of the child.

imagine if we lived in a world where people were able to respect and honour the child’s family. if people could actually support separated parents to make this work, and help them over the inevitable hurdles.

because for your son to be told explicitly or implicitly - this is a family occasion therefor your mother is not here- , what sort of message does that give him? You’re an outsider, he’s half an outsider.

People are generally too stuck in their ideas about what is to consider this- I’m with you on your original post.

clearly your sons grandmother did not mean to be hurtful towards you, but I don’t think you did anything wrong whatsoever. Hold your head up high babe

Thank you so much!!! I think you are the only one who really understood where I was coming from. I always feel we should do what feels right instead of having to follow the “norm”…. However not everyone thinks like that so I have to respect it xxx

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Barney16 · 29/06/2024 20:26

She isn't your mother in law she's your ex mother in law and he's your ex husband not your husband. They are your sons family but not your family so they will invite your son but not you because you aren't part of that family anymore. But that's all perfectly normal and nothing to get upset about. They aren't being mean they are just doing what most people would do. So it's not personal and you don't need to feel upset.

Donotneedit · 29/06/2024 20:18

I think the notion that when parents separate, they are no longer “family” is a cultural one rather than based in fact- you are still a family to your child, and I think it’s admirable to try to maintain this link and in the best interests of the child.

imagine if we lived in a world where people were able to respect and honour the child’s family. if people could actually support separated parents to make this work, and help them over the inevitable hurdles.

because for your son to be told explicitly or implicitly - this is a family occasion therefor your mother is not here- , what sort of message does that give him? You’re an outsider, he’s half an outsider.

People are generally too stuck in their ideas about what is to consider this- I’m with you on your original post.

clearly your sons grandmother did not mean to be hurtful towards you, but I don’t think you did anything wrong whatsoever. Hold your head up high babe

gamerchick · 29/06/2024 20:17

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 18:10

I guess it might seem cheeky when you don’t know all the details. We all still take my son out together, she gets invited to mine for dinner, I go on holidays with me ex and son…..if she wanted to come to one of my families gatherings I’d be over the moon. I guess I have different boundaries to most people, I maybe need to rethink them 🫣 I’m just super friendly and would never want any animosity xx

The door closes and doors go both ways. Maybe it's time for a bit of distance. You're too emeshed in your old life.

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 29/06/2024 20:13

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:07

Haha lots of people say that!! I’m really not sure it can work and I’m frightened to try in case it all goes tits up again, it may just prolong the separation and pain. I don’t feel like I’m in love with him anymore so I don’t want to try to give something that’s not there xx

If you wanted to give it a go because you were both still in love you would be back together.

The relationship has stayed how it is out of convenience and some misguided ideals.

If you don’t romantic my love him it would be a disaster. Especially for your child. Too confusing.

Cerealkiller4U · 29/06/2024 20:13

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 17:31

Ive been separated from my husband for 3 years and we have a 4 year old autistic boy. We get on great and the way we co-parent should be made into a manual…..it’s working so well for us and our boy.

My husband’s family are having a get together at the end of July. The home where the party is being held is fabulous with fantastic gardens. My son will absolutely love it!!!! I’ve never had any issues with his side of the family, we still ring each other and we all share a family WhatsApp.

Today I asked if I could go to the family gathering as I’d love to see my son explore the gardens and watch him with the family. I said I’d cook a lasagne as I’m famous for them and the family has always loved them. This was my mother-in-laws reply…..

Hi sorry late reply
Ah it's not my call. Trish is having family because it'll be the last time any family get togethers happen there be4 they move to their new home . Don’t worry Luke will of course see his other relatives at his aunty Trisha's ,we'll make sure you have lots of pics!! X

So it was a no. I’m so upset by this. I feel because I’m the one who left the relationship I’m being punished. I feel like she’s saying that because I’ve left I have lost all privileges to attend family gatherings and I’m no longer welcome. If it was my family and my ex husband wanted to come I’d have absolutely no problem, nor would my family. I feel it’s a bit childish.

My initial reaction was to not allow my son to go without me but I don’t want him to miss out.

What are your thoughts? I’m I being too sensitive?

Just for context I left him due to lack of support for me when my mental health declined after I had my son. I found text messages on his phone saying he wanted to punch me, calling me a c**t and making up stories about me for sympathy. I’ve forgiven all that and we are great friends, though I’d ever g get back with him.

My mum and dad divorced but stayed the best of friends

hiwever I couldn’t ever imagine my mum expecting to go over me dads for a party

i I mean come on!

however due to how well my parents got in I had no issue whatsoever with their divorce

just think how good it is for your son.

Moonshine5 · 29/06/2024 20:12

A good parent wouldn't stop their child attending an event the other parents family held.
I think it's weird you want to go. You split up 3 years ago. You instigated it because the other parent has not supportive according to you. Move on. The lasagne thing is even weirder -they were likely being polite.

KomodoOhno · 29/06/2024 20:12

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:05

Yeah they told me the same but I’m not sure what story he told them when I left. That’s none of my business though haha. I know they all respect me and know they all think the world of my son. That should be enough and I definitely think I’ve been pushing the boundaries too much xx

I think it's great that you are now going to maybe have more boundaries. It's helpful you get a long that will make it easier moving forward with your own lives whole parenting in a more healthy way. Don't be hard on yourself. If the worst thing from the breakdown was you were too friendly and attached that is pretty good!

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ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 29/06/2024 20:10

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:02

One million percent!!!! This thread has changed the way I’m thinking completely!! I’m not a bad person, just muddling through life the best I can. We all make wrong choices and thanks to everyone here I can see I have been doing it wrong for some time 🫣 I’m taking this all on board and can hopefully make better choices and set clearer boundaries xxx

Honestly Op, better boundaries is the ways and you won’t get these hurt feelings you experienced.

My son is autistic. I am a single parent household though I have a partner who doesn’t live here. And was single for quite a while. I was always the main carer. So I get it.

I get the attraction of lots of the benefits of being in a relationship and not living together. But it’s different when it’s a new partner and never lived together rather than a long relationship that’s split up.

It’s good you are realising that things have to change. The marriage is over. But you can establish a new relationship that’s actually comparing. Not this limbo.

and honestly, it’s going to be more confusing for your son if his father meets someone new and then it all changes. Or if you unexpectedly meet someone.

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:09

DeliciousApples · 29/06/2024 20:07

Make sure you or your ex check there is no pond.

Small children and ponds and people looking after them who aren't aware of ponds/don't know how small kids just take off, can be disastrous.

Yes, there’s part of me that worried about this as my son has no sense of danger, however I know his daddy would never take his eyes from him xx

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Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:07

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Haha lots of people say that!! I’m really not sure it can work and I’m frightened to try in case it all goes tits up again, it may just prolong the separation and pain. I don’t feel like I’m in love with him anymore so I don’t want to try to give something that’s not there xx

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DeliciousApples · 29/06/2024 20:07

Make sure you or your ex check there is no pond.

Small children and ponds and people looking after them who aren't aware of ponds/don't know how small kids just take off, can be disastrous.

BirthdayRainbow · 29/06/2024 20:06

I think she meant it but her actions aren't matching. I'll be moving hours away so it will become irrelevant.

KomodoOhno · 29/06/2024 20:05

DracoDormiensNumquamTittilandum · 29/06/2024 17:33

You aren't being punished, you just aren't invited. Don't stop your child from going, that would be petty and twattish.

Agreed. They are not your family. Honestly it's perfectly normal the host has said no. I understand you and your ex are doing great as ex's. That's wonderful for your child. But that does not mean any of is family want you there.

Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:05

BirthdayRainbow · 29/06/2024 19:58

My MIL told me a few months ago I'll always be family but I don't believe it. She also said she won't take sides when we split. Her behaviour is telling me she is taking sides as she isn't supporting me. It's hard when I did nothing wrong. It's all him. People are just weird.

Yeah they told me the same but I’m not sure what story he told them when I left. That’s none of my business though haha. I know they all respect me and know they all think the world of my son. That should be enough and I definitely think I’ve been pushing the boundaries too much xx

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Gilliano1974 · 29/06/2024 20:02

ShouldhavebeencalledAppollo · 29/06/2024 19:54

Op it seems you are keeping this very close almost marriage because it suits you. You don’t really want to move on romantically, so it suits you.

But you seem to want all the benefits of being married to him, without being with him. And you want everyone else to do the same. Still treat you as a unit. The your gut feeling is that you are being punished if everyone else doesn’t go along with it. Because you still see yourself in more than a co parenting relationship on some level.

You know it’s causing confusion for him. You know he isn’t ready to move on because he is in the semi relationship with you. But you don’t want him. It’s time to piss or get off the pot so to speak

One million percent!!!! This thread has changed the way I’m thinking completely!! I’m not a bad person, just muddling through life the best I can. We all make wrong choices and thanks to everyone here I can see I have been doing it wrong for some time 🫣 I’m taking this all on board and can hopefully make better choices and set clearer boundaries xxx

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