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To stop bending over backwards to accommodate anxiety

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indecisive28 · 29/06/2024 14:20

My brother suffers terribly from anxiety and I genuinely feel for him, it has a massive impact on his life and I do my best to make things easier where I can. However there are times where it's a real inconvenience, he can't see past himself so doesn't see the impact it has on others and I'm getting tired of it.

Some typical examples:

I have to plan things meticulously when I would much rather just see how the day goes, for example he needs to know exactly when food will be served if I'm hosting people so that he can arrive later and not feel pressure to eat in front of people. He could easily just arrive and say that he has eaten already but for some reason won't.

If we are both invited anywhere, he won't drive so expects me to take him, sometimes this is fine, (I'm going anyway) but it means I can't choose to stay over and have a drink.

He thinks it's okay to decide at the very last minute whether he feels up to doing something, this inevitably prevents me from making other plans.

All of these are things he feels he needs in order to manage his anxiety but there is a real lack of awareness.

I want to reset some boundaries but still be supportive. Any thoughts?

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Loopytiles · 29/06/2024 14:43

you could reduce the frequency or completely cease seeing him with other people, or if you do, just do what’s best for you personally, eg say you’re unsure of the plan, get cabs or stay over. See him 1:1 and have options for things you can do that day or evening if he cancels.

Daleksatemyshed · 29/06/2024 14:42

You've set yourself up by always worrying what works for him. In future tell him your plans and he can go with you or not as he sees fit

Ratisshortforratthew · 29/06/2024 14:41

Ponderingwindow · 29/06/2024 14:28

Planning the day is just good manners. At least as far as my ASD brain is concerned. I don’t know how NT people manage without a schedule.

If you can’t be specific, at least provide a time range. the meal will start sometime between 12-2 so arrive after 3 to be safe.

the rest of it, you just say no. You don’t have to be your brother’s assistant. Make your own plans and don’t wait for him. Tell him you will likely be drinking and he needs to plan a ride of his own. Even if you decide not to have a drink, he then at least is covered.

I’m also ND (ADHD) and find strict plans too claustrophobic and stifling, if there are too many too far in advance I’ll just forget (yes, even if I write them all down). Yes, you need to plan things like travelling to an airport or making a dinner reservation but a day out with friends can easily be more casual and “go with the flow”. It isn’t an NT vs ND thing.

SpareHeirOverThere · 29/06/2024 14:39

For times when you want to drink, how would you normally get to and from the venue? Bus? Train? Uber? Just do that.

Food served - give an hour's time frame or 'deffo by 7' kind of answer.

Can you talk to him about how accommodating his anxiety impacts you? There's anxious and there's selfish.

Ratisshortforratthew · 29/06/2024 14:38

Assuming you’re both adults why are you even having this level of involvement with him? You live you life as you want, and tell him sorry brother, I can’t give you a lift/tell you exact plans as I’m not driving/don’t know the plan/I’m busy that day. If you both end up invited to the same event tell him he can plan his own transport/timings etc in the way that makes him most comfortable but you’ll be doing the same, so you’ll just see him there. Is he getting help? You’re not his mother or his chauffeur!

Scarletttulips · 29/06/2024 14:35

Planning the day is just good manners.

It really isn’t.

Things change. other people have good ideas. One things leads into something unexpected.

When there’s plans, there’s people who moan about the time, and rush you to the next thing.

GillySoose · 29/06/2024 14:34

What is he doing to manage/deal with this?

Counselling/medication?

I've suffered with severe anxiety issues for years and have had a lot of CBT, therapy, and trying different medications.

If he's an adult he needs to be doing something about it.

And why can't you just stay over somewhere if you want to? Tell him that's happening and he's welcome to either join you or not if that doesn't work for him.

Fuzziduck · 29/06/2024 14:32

Feel empowered to say you are staying over, and he may do the same or drive himself.

Ivehearditbothways · 29/06/2024 14:31

He’s your brother, not your child. Do things without him. Tell him what you’re doing, however you want to do it, including things like not being sure if you’ll stay over or not so can’t drive him home. He can sort his own taxi out.

It isn’t enough to identify the problem and then expect everyone to work around it. He needs to identify the problem and then do something about it.

Of course it’s nice to make sure he can be involved in stuff, but it actually isn’t your job. Say no sometimes, tell him you can’t give anymore detail as the day isn’t planned sometimes. Then do it his way other times for important family occasions or whatever:

Luxell934 · 29/06/2024 14:31

How old is your brother? Is he on medication and having counselling?

Ponderingwindow · 29/06/2024 14:28

Planning the day is just good manners. At least as far as my ASD brain is concerned. I don’t know how NT people manage without a schedule.

If you can’t be specific, at least provide a time range. the meal will start sometime between 12-2 so arrive after 3 to be safe.

the rest of it, you just say no. You don’t have to be your brother’s assistant. Make your own plans and don’t wait for him. Tell him you will likely be drinking and he needs to plan a ride of his own. Even if you decide not to have a drink, he then at least is covered.

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